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Old 01-15-2014, 08:56 AM    (permalink
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BBD, where is you!? Did you catch up with the stuff I posted?

How do you fire Pope, and keep Ryan, Quinn, AND the worst, Gilbride Jr.?
And I agree with you, Ryan, Quinn and Gilbride Jr should also be fired. I have a feeling Pope will not be the last person to go from our staff.
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(let's not forget Adrien Robinson haven't evolved to anything remotely close to a starter as well)
Forgot about Robinson. This may do wonders for him.
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Quinn has nothing to do with offense so he's staying and that has nothing to do with McAdoo. Sounds like Ryan is staying. Ingram gone. Gilbride Jr. no word yet.
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RB coach Ingram is let go too. So Pope and Ingram gone.
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I didn't agree with letting go of Wauffle either. He's still a great DL coach.
Doesn't matter how well you do something if you are going behind your superiors backs (allegedly).
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I don't really mind if we lose all of our offensive assistants (position coaches), but I think Pope was the 1 guy who needed to keep his job.
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Wonder if we'll take a look at Finley now, obvious he had a terrible injury, but if he is healthy McAdoo might want him.
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Eh, Pope will be missed 100% but you can't ask for a change in the offense and then be upset when position coaches are let go. Maybe it's time for a change. Perhaps McAdoo can bring in someone that can make the TE position a receiving threat.

Losing a TE coach isn't going to make or break this offense. I'm far more excited at the potential of this offense going forward, and if that means letting Pope and some other go, so be it.
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I wonder if this changes our draft strategy. Apparently McAdoo is big on having the TE being a focal point of the offense.
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Maybe, but McAdoo is still only an offensive coordinator. Reese/Coughlin likely have a much bigger impact on this. I sincerely doubt we spend high draft picks on a TE when we have so many holes to fill.
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Well offensive line is still clearly the biggest need by far.

After that, I'm curious to see what we do. It could be BPA regardless of position. It wouldn't be a terrible idea to do that.
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We might just retain Myers for 2014 depending on his cap hit.
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Yeah, probably not. OT is SO deep this year. We might be able to get a good one in the second round.
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I hope we don't. That douche needs to go.
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Maybe he wants to change the model from a 2 way TE to more of a passing TE. So no more Pope and Ingram. Though, if you want to make changes get rid of Quinn, Ryan and Gilbride Jr.
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Again Quinn has nothing to do with McAdoo.
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No, but the point is there should be a lot more people leaving before Pope and Ingram. if you took a poll and said what coaches would get fired, the point is, Pope and Ingram are at the bottom of all media, and fans predictions.
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No, but the point is there should be a lot more people leaving before Pope and Ingram. if you took a poll and said what coaches would get fired, the point is, Pope and Ingram are at the bottom of all media, and fans predictions.
Well the fans and the media don't know what McAdoo is trying to accomplish so I don't care about that.
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Well the fans and the media don't know what McAdoo is trying to accomplish so I don't care about that.
Well who wanted them fired? McAdoo? Coughlin? Mara? Reese? And what were the reasons?
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Well who wanted them fired? McAdoo? Coughlin? Mara? Reese? And what were the reasons?
No one will ever know that but I'm sure everyone was well aware that he would be allowed to bring in his own guys and that he would have Coughlin's blessing on any move.
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No one will ever know that but I'm sure everyone was well aware that he would be allowed to bring in his own guys and that he would have Coughlin's blessing on any move.
Yeah true. I wish we knew about Gilbride too. I felt like that interview I posted had an element of him talking about situations that you keep in the coaches meeting. For example, basically calling Beatty soft.

At first thought, you say, hey Gilbride, beatty is still on the team. He didn't retire so calling him soft isn't smart. Keep that in house. So stuff like that you think, well, that's odd, why would you be that honest? Are you mad? Or is that a guy finally just saying after 39 years of coaching, I don't have to be PC. I can say what's on my mind and not care.
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I think the Gilbride-Beatty quote was a little bit of both. Like you said he's been in the league forever and probably doesn't care about what he says anymore AND maybe he was trying to light a fire under Beatty because he knows he can be good if he puts in the time. Coughlin could have asked him to do it for all we know.
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I think the Gilbride-Beatty quote was a little bit of both. Like you said he's been in the league forever and probably doesn't care about what he says anymore AND maybe he was trying to light a fire under Beatty because he knows he can be good if he puts in the time. Coughlin could have asked him to do it for all we know.
Same with Myers. Though his contract will be voided I guess. But calling him a 2nd TE. Technically he is still on the roster. Saying you need cow bell RB to handle the carries. Just some of the stuff you say, you would think, please keep that in house, or say it 15 years later not now. Those guys are still playing or may be re-signed.

So interesting dynamic. I want to know about that behind the scenes too.
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Bill Lasor, Eagles QB coach, got hired as Dolphins OC.
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The Pope and Ingram news is very interesting. I don't think a coaching shake up is a bad think.

Pope has been here since the Fassel years and Ingram has been with Coughlin since his time coaching Boston College.

I don't think this is a bad thing, new ideas and new ways of approaching things is often good.

Let's not forget McAdoo has a strong history coaching TEs.

I am surprised though that I though Sean Ryan, Kevin Gilbride Jr and Pat Flahrety were more on the hot seat.
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