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Old 02-26-2014, 06:05 PM    (permalink
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It says a lot that they went to scout him BUT they could have not liked what they saw.
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I agree. It would be a god awful pick.
Really? I thought TE became a much bigger part of the Giants passing game over the past two seasons. Believing it or not, Brandon Myers had 47 catches for 522 yards and 4 touchdowns. If he were a Jet, that would have put him two yards away from being their leading receiver. But you wouldn't know it watching the games, because he looked awful for the most part.

The year before Martellus Bennett had 55 catches for 624 yards and 5 td's. Not only that, but he more than anyone replaced Plaxico as that safety valve Eli could go to when things broke down.
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We didn't put a big emphasis on the TE at all. TE is meant to block under Gilbride's offense and then be the 4th option on most passing plays.
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They could absolutely take Ebron. If Lewan's there they don't hesitate though.
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Meh, who we scout means no difference. Guys get scouted heavily all the time and then the teams end up picking someone they never even talked to, much less scouted.

Or maybe they wanted to scout him because they weren't sold on him from the tape or didn't see enough of him.
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They could absolutely take Ebron. If Lewan's there they don't hesitate though.
Giants place a high emphasis on character so Lewan would be hesitant.
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Meh, who we scout means no difference. Guys get scouted heavily all the time and then the teams end up picking someone they never even talked to, much less scouted.

Or maybe they wanted to scout him because they weren't sold on him from the tape or didn't see enough of him.
Forenci spot on today with everything except his Rolle comment!
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Giants place a high emphasis on character so Lewan would be hesitant.

Will Hill is a Giant.
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Forenci spot on today with everything except his Rolle comment!
I like Rolle a lot, but I think he may be getting over the hill. He's a good in the box safety but I fear he may fall off a cliff soon.
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Will Hill is a Giant.
Lewan would be a 1st rounder with 1st round money even though it isn't as much as years past. Hill gets paid peanuts.
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I like Rolle a lot, but I think he may be getting over the hill. He's a good in the box safety but I fear he may fall off a cliff soon.
Anything is possible but as stated earlier he just came off one of his best years ever. I don't see a slow down for another 2 years.
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Lewan would be a 1st rounder with 1st round money even though it isn't as much as years past. Hill gets paid peanuts.
D.J. Hayden (last year's 12th overall pick) got 4 years 10.3 million.
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D.J. Hayden (last year's 12th overall pick) got 4 years 10.3 million.
Like I said the money isn't as big but it still matters to the Giants. Cutting a 1st round because of character concerns is a big news while letting a UDFA S go isn't.
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Reading Snee's comments about retiring if the Giants don't want him and not really caring about money are encouraging. Hopefully we can work something out.
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I want him back if and only if he can accept a backup role at a restructured contract.

If not, maybe we can put together a nice retirement package for him. He's a true Giant, he'll always be a Giant, but they need to move on if they can.
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New Giants OC Ben McAdoo says "Most teams in the league have West Coast principles in their offense, we'll be one of them.
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McAdoo said theyll have WCO elements in the offense. Said they want to have an identity of being tough + smart and hang hat on fundamentals

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Ben McAdoo tells us "we're going to have an identity." He obviously won't tell us much about that. Says they want "sound foundation."

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McAdoo: "At this point we're not certain what we're going to look like." Roster obviously not set.

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He said they'll be flexible enough to use any type of personnel.

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McAdoo said he will merge Giants system with system he's been in last 10 years. #nyg
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Doesnt't sound like Eli hsa a say in the system now, but McAdoo said that once the players come in for the OFS program, they'll tweak it

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"I'm very fond of him, obviously, watching him play,'' Ben McAdoo says of Eli Manning. #nyg
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On improving Eli: "We hang our hat on fundamentals. That's going to be the first thing we want to address

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McAdoo: Fundamentals 1st thing will address. 2nd is eliminating turnovers

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McAdoo chose to look forward rather than comment if he thought the Giants offense was 'broken" last year.

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McAdoo: "I come from a great place, a great organization. To leave that obviously your opportunity has to be something special

Pete Damilatisț@PFF_Pete·27 secs
Eli had just 99 screen yds last season. RT @bigblueview McAdoo: "We're definitely going to spend time in the screen game."

Patricia Trainaț@Patricia_Traina·36 secs
McAdoo on TEs: "At the end of the day, you have to find player who can plug in and figure out what they do best."

Tom Rockț@TomRock_Newsday·5 secs
McAdoo: "It's not my system, it's our system and we're building it right now."

Ebenezer Samuel‏@ebenezersamuel·39 secs
McAdoo says Chris Snee has "been in the weight room a ton."

Ralph Vacchiano‏@RVacchianoNYDN·26 secs
McAdoo on rebuilding the O-line: "There are going to be plenty of guys lined up at the door to get into some open spots."
And that's it for the conference call
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Ebenezer Samuelț@ebenezersamuel·22 secs
McAdoo said he's met Rueben Randle. He also said he's "followed" @HenryHynoski for awhile. They have Pennsylvania connection.

Tom Rockț@TomRock_Newsday·21 secs
Overview: McAdoo not sure what offense will be or who will play in it, but is confident it will work.
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From kffl.com

New York Giants OG Chris Snee is not retiring and wants to play one more season with the Giants. "I don't want my last memory to be a dismal performance in Carolina,'' Snee said. "There's a changing of the guard, I want to help this team right the ship." - See more at: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/NFL?page=1#....MjdITLGn.dpuf

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Reading Snee's comments about retiring if the Giants don't want him and not really caring about money are encouraging. Hopefully we can work something out.
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I like the comments from McAdoo about the offense.
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We'll see when time comes how much change this O really went through.
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