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Looking at the guys we have brought in on the offensive line, Schwartz, Walton and Jerry as well as the guys we are reportedly interested in Charles Brown and Brian De La Puente, they are all good pass blockers.

The Packers system has been one of the better pass blocking units over the past few years (averaging 5th over the last 4 years by PFF), so it makes sense that we are looking to bring in some of their protection elements.

Pat Flahrety certainly has some resources to work with this year.
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Tom Coughlin on Character

"There have been numerous instances when Jerry Reese and I looked at each other after a kid has walked out of the interview room and we don't even have to discuss it. We both know that player didn't have a clue about what it would take to succeed in our organization. Not everybody we've brought in has worked out. I've made mistakes. When that happens we've tried to rectify the situation as quickly as possible. I don't show a lot of patience with people who are not willing to make a total commitment to the team or who demonstrate a lack of self-discipline. This is true for everyone from the equipment manager to a starting player. We find the complainers and the whiners, the people who aren't willing to put in the long hours, the people more interested in self-promotion than the success of the team and get rid of them as quickly as possible. When we identify a person with a bad attitude or questionable work ethic, or individual who can't buy into the team concept, then we are going to make a change...

"Unfortunately, at times the malcontents are very, very productive players. In that situation you do your best to win them over, to make them understand what you're trying to do and get them to buy into it. But when it becomes necessary, the only thing you can do is admit that they don't fit in the program and get rid of them. No matter how talented a player may be, you can't ignore a lack of character or pretend it isn't going to affect your entire program."

I wonder if TC is thinking about Plax or Shockey in paragraph 2.
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Nice pickup NYG, very nice read

I am thinking TC is talking Shockey, Plaxico, Tiki, maybe Nicks
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It could be Nicks. I forgot Meki Barber. I'd be curious if he means Nicks as well though.
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- Eric Ebron is a diva. He thinks the world revolves around him and does a lot of finger-pointing. He heard this from four sources including teammates (I'd guess all four were teammates). He also said he's heard the Giants want him at No. 12 because Reese likes him, but that Coughlin might not. He says he's not getting past Pittsburgh at 15 because they love him.

From the Draft forum. Interesting if true.
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OG John Jerry deal is one-year deal worth $770,000.
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It could be Nicks. I forgot Meki Barber. I'd be curious if he means Nicks as well though.
As far as Nick's goes, it puts into the spotlight Kevin Gilbride's comments about “one guy playing” at wide receiver, which was Victor Cruz

I wouldn't be that surprised if Randle and Jernigan are under the spotlight here as well
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if Eric Ebron is a diva, it could drop him way down the Giants draft board.
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Strahan too. Early on, He and TC didn't get along. So maybe he gets counted too on that.
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Strahan too. Early on, He and TC didn't get along. So maybe he gets counted too on that.
I think this comment suits Strahan

"Unfortunately, at times the malcontents are very, very productive players. In that situation you do your best to win them over, to make them understand what you're trying to do and get them to buy into it.
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Probably but coughlin did change a little too. He came in as a hard ass and rubbed a lot of the vets wrong.

If Ebron is truly a diva I'll pass.
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Makes me want to pass on Ebron even more now. He has no reason to be a diva at this point.
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I'd still take Ebron. Let's see if this true or BS. I am sure Reese will follow up.
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We will look into Ebron and make a judgement

I am not that sold on him at the moment.
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I'd still take Ebron. Let's see if this true or BS. I am sure Reese will follow up.
I believe the report was that Reese really likes Ebron, but there is some concern how well he fits Coughlin.

I believe both Reese and Coughlin were at Ebron's pro day, so they are seriously checking him out.
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I believe the report was that Reese really likes Ebron, but there is some concern how well he fits Coughlin.

I believe both Reese and Coughlin were at Ebron's pro day, so they are seriously checking him out.
And prior to that both Reese and Ross were down scouting him.That means a lot when your GM and Director of College Scouting both go down. Last time we did that was JPP, reported by Pat Kirwan, and we drafted JPP.
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Ex-NFL scout ( Russ Lande Jr.): Eric Ebron could be better than Jimmy Graham

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200...Twitter_nfl_cb
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I saw that, this sentence pretty much sums it up

"Lande also cites Ebron's "game-changing plays running after the catch" and believes he can be "a punishing blocker when he wants to.""

There is no doubting Ebron's ability and potential. For me it comes back to attitude, work ethic and willingness to buy into Coughlin's philosophies.

I certainly think this could be a non-issue as we have had other players with issues buy into Giants football, but that is my only real reservations with Ebron.
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I saw that, this sentence pretty much sums it up

"Lande also cites Ebron's "game-changing plays running after the catch" and believes he can be "a punishing blocker when he wants to.""

There is no doubting Ebron's ability and potential. For me it comes back to attitude, work ethic and willingness to buy into Coughlin's philosophies.

I certainly think this could be a non-issue as we have had other players with issues buy into Giants football, but that is my only real reservations with Ebron.

That's the stuff we can coach up. Its not like we don't take players who like that assuming this is true. Plax, Shockey, Meki, and Nicks. Meki worked hard though but he was all about himself.
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Nicks turned into that. At first he was a team guy.
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I just realized I need a new signature. I never view the forum with pictures allowed so I forgot I had Nicks.
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I have no idea. I have pics off also so everything would be a surprise to me. I don't even remember what I had.
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Nice move by Tuck:

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Nicks turned into that. At first he was a team guy.

I don't think someone turns into that. I think it was always there. For example, Tiki was always like that but he was a scat back and didn't habe success. When success came , his ttur personality shined through.

I think Nicks was always like that.
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I don't know. Nicks was always quiet but after his amazing playoff run and his contract was getting closer you started to hear a lot of him.
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