New York Giants Discussion - Page 80

NY+Giants=NYG · 09-23-2011, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jughead10

Well if Mike didn't like him, he must be a terrible person.

Yup, we are on the same page now.

NY+Giants=NYG · 09-23-2011, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Giantsfan1080

Not good at all. Hope they surprise me.

Me either, I expect us to lose, big time actually. I don't trust this offense, and the way QBs are throwing on us, I expect Vick to do some damage, unless we can hit him and hit him really hard early.

Rosebud · 09-23-2011, 03:25 PM

I dunno. I kinda expect us to get blown out but there's a part of me that thinks we'll continue to improve our play and make a game of this, maybe even get to blow a 4th quarter lead!

NY+Giants=NYG · 09-23-2011, 03:29 PM

Well if we continue to struggle on 3rd downs, then that means more chances for that offense to do something. That's what worries me.

OSUGiants17 · 09-23-2011, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jughead10

I really like Todd Haley. KC is brutal right now so that would worry me. But Cassell sucks. Always has.

If he gets fired as KC's HC then he will most likely have to go back to being a OC for a few years and I would love to have him over Killdrive

EDIT: Someone already said it lol, but whatever. If we fire Coughlin and Gillbride, and Fewell gets a HC job like I predict, Mike Zimmer or Brian Van Gorder at HC, Haley at OC and a new DC would be what I want.

NY+Giants=NYG · 09-24-2011, 11:45 AM

Brian Van Gorder? Who is that?

Giantsfan1080 · 09-24-2011, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by NY+Giants=NYG

Brian Van Gorder? Who is that?

Defensive Coordinator for the Falcons.

NY+Giants=NYG · 09-24-2011, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Giantsfan1080

Defensive Coordinator for the Falcons.

Hmm I didn't know that. When I went down there I was chilling with the offense. I wonder if I met him. Man that's embarrassing that I didn't know who he was, lol. I remember the OC, and that obviously Smith and Te coach.

Giantsfan1080 · 09-24-2011, 09:30 PM

Haha it's ok. Hard to remember everyone.

bigbluedefense · 09-25-2011, 08:01 AM

Isn't Van Gorder a Cover 2 guy? Do not...want..

Giantsfan1080 · 09-25-2011, 09:56 AM

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Isn't Van Gorder a Cover 2 guy? Do not...want..

I don't know his defensive philosophies but if that's the case then hell no.

bigbluedefense · 09-25-2011, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Giantsfan1080

I don't know his defensive philosophies but if that's the case then hell no.

I know Mike Smith is a Cover 2 guy, and the Falcons run a Cover 2.

So I'm assuming he's also a Cover 2 guy. Zimmer is the only 4-3 man coverage guy that I know of that's available. Most 4-3 guys nowadays are Cover 2. All the blitzers run a 34.

Other than Spags and Greg Williams, they're the last of the known aggressive 43 coordinators. I'm sure there are guys out there, but they're unknowns to anyone outside of the coaching community.

Being that I want a HC that's a former DC to bring stability to the defense for a change, I want a guy like Zimmer to shore up the defense.

We really dropped the ball in not getting John Fox. I was really hoping he'd wait a year. If he just sat this year out, he would have been a lock to be our next HC.

bigbluedefense · 09-25-2011, 11:25 AM

Unless we have the balls to dust off the HC gloves of Greg Williams and offer him a 2nd chance at it.

I don't think it would be a terrible idea. He'll handle the defense, and hopefully let Eli do his thing on offense. It's something to ponder.

Forenci · 09-25-2011, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bigbluedefense

I know Mike Smith is a Cover 2 guy, and the Falcons run a Cover 2.

So I'm assuming he's also a Cover 2 guy. Zimmer is the only 4-3 man coverage guy that I know of that's available. Most 4-3 guys nowadays are Cover 2. All the blitzers run a 34.

Other than Spags and Greg Williams, they're the last of the known aggressive 43 coordinators. I'm sure there are guys out there, but they're unknowns to anyone outside of the coaching community.

Being that I want a HC that's a former DC to bring stability to the defense for a change, I want a guy like Zimmer to shore up the defense.

We really dropped the ball in not getting John Fox. I was really hoping he'd wait a year. If he just sat this year out, he would have been a lock to be our next HC.

Meh, I've always felt like John Fox was a mediocre head coach. Not to say that he's awful, just not a huge fan. He's kinda in the Cowher/Jeff Fisher group to me. He's done some good stuff, but ultimately I don't feel like it was directly related to his coaching ability.

BaLLiN · 09-25-2011, 12:29 PM

Jacquian Williams looks good, who called that eh? I love Greg Jones but he needs time to adjust to the game especially because he isn't the most physically gifted.

Malaka · 09-25-2011, 02:02 PM

Oh my, we have choked away this lead...

OSUGiants17 · 09-25-2011, 03:20 PM

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Oh my, we have choked away this lead...

And got it back for a HUGE win! This game was HUGE, in Philly and we came in banged up

BigBlueNorwegian · 09-25-2011, 03:39 PM

YES!!!!!!!!!!! Absolutely fantastic win, I'm in heaven right now!! WOHOOOO!!

NY+Giants=NYG · 09-25-2011, 03:41 PM

We won! JPP!!! 2 sacks! Damn he is turning out to be a diamond in the rough!

Damix · 09-25-2011, 03:42 PM

Gotta love getting off an international flight and getting to watch the Giants win while waiting for customs.

scottyboy · 09-25-2011, 03:50 PM

that. was. awesome.

Malaka · 09-25-2011, 03:53 PM

This made my day and quite possibly my week. Thank you so much Giants, I can talk so much **** finally to those God Damn bandwagon "DREAM TEAM" fans where I live.

NY+Giants=NYG · 09-25-2011, 04:18 PM

Gotta love Eagles fans..

Paysinger

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Getting cursed @, bottles thrown at our buses, and middle fingers by kids, teens, adults, elders. Philly fans are the best! #NYG Stand UP!

Tuck
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Wow. We just had a 7 maybe 8 year old. Throw a beer at the bus. #greatparents. Not

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I've never seen some many middle fingers lol I love it.

Sash

Thanks for the hospitality Philly. #shoutout to the 4 year old that flipped me off today. Bigger shoutout to the kids dad who allowed it.

Forenci · 09-25-2011, 04:36 PM

What about some love for Victor Cruz!

I only got to see parts of the game via Red Zone but damn it looked nice, haha.

Can't wait to see the write ups for the game from BBD, NYG, etc.

Like I said, didn't get to see every bit of the game, but it sounds like BBD was spot on in his early analysis of the Eagles. Doesn't look like their secondary gave up much to anyone (Manningham not playing also hurt) but their front seven just got abused by the run (Bradshaw) and on passes to the RB's.

Plus Vick got hurt, which I think most people predicted.

NY+Giants=NYG · 09-25-2011, 04:39 PM

Watching the game now since I missed most of it... J . williams is a stud! Fast as anything and blitzed perfectly to make Vick get rid of it which then bounced off of Smith's hands.