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Old 02-20-2011, 01:19 PM    (permalink
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We needed a new thread for the 2011 Draft. So someone please sticky this.

Anyway, to get things rollin', it looks like we are certainly doing our due dilligence on Auburn QB Cam Newton.

Per Rotoworld and the Miami Herald:

"The Dolphins are reportedly "heavily researching" Auburn QB Cam Newton."

http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/02/2...-backs-on.html
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Meh not really a big deal. I would think every team is "heavily researching" if Newton is a franchise QB or not.
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Personally hoping that Newton ends up legitimately raising his stock to the top 10 as I don't really want him on our team. I just don't think he's going to succeed in the NFL and even if he does, I think he needs time to get there and while I think Henne deserves another year with a better supporting cast, I think if we took Newton he'd probably end up playing sooner than later because Ross wants to sell tickets and having Newton play is the best way to do that.

Overall my dream scenario is that we trade down in the first (maybe more than once depending) and acquire more picks. Its a good year to have multiple 2nd/3rd round picks as the value of players, particularly at positions of need, really falls off after the 3rd this year in my opinion. I'd love to trade back to the late 20s (even early 30s) and acquire a 2nd and maybe an extra 3rd. If we're picking back in the tail end of the first or early second it makes taking someone like Wisniewski or Pouncey much more tolerable (interior line is priority number 1 for me). I'd honestly be a little disappointed in staying put and taking Ingram just because I feel like RB is REALLY deep this year and grabbing someone like Carter, Thomas, Hunter, Williams, Todman, or Vereen with a 3rd round pick isn't much different than using a first on Ingram/LeShoure.
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How would everyone rank our needs? This is how I have it but I'd be interested in seeing everyone else's too:

Starter:
1. C
2. LG
3. RB (depth only if Ronnie Brown returns)

Depth:
4. Deep Threat WR (still think Hartline is decent in his role but would be nice to have him in the 4/ST ace like we wanted him to be when we drafted him)
5. QB*
6. Pass catching TE (I like the upside of the young guys we collected last year but wouldn't be opposed with using a top pick on one instead of gambling one of them develops)
7. Pass rushing specialist OLB (Wake needs a backup and insurance policy)
8. Swing OT (Nate Garner could be this guy but I still fear a serious injury to Long or Carey enough to list this as a depth need)

*I am one of those people that still thinks Henne can be a productive NFL QB if he has a running game but last year the interior line and playcalling really killed any ideas of a run game. That's why I put C/OG so high and QB so low. I don't think we can totally ignore QB, we need to bring in a veteran we can trust in case of injury and a young gun, I just don't think we need to take the young gun in the first two rounds.

I also think it would be nice to find a long-term replacement for Yeremiah Bell but that could be Jones, Clemons, or Amaya so I don't really think we need to address that quite yet. If we lose Soliai, NT becomes a higher need but I like Chris Baker as a developmental guy there so as long as Soliai returns I don't think we need to address NT. I'd actually be ok with the depth inside if we got a good C and LG as Berger and McQ would be solid depth guys, just not good full-time starters. Competition for Polite, Carpenter, and Fields (Carp and Fields more to prevent them from wearing down like they did this year since we had no other camp legs) is necessary but not a draft pick.

Potential Draft Scenario:
1 (15). Trade down and get 2nd round pick
1 (Mid-to-late-20s). Stefen Wisniewski, C, Penn State
2. Ben Ijalana, OG, Villanova
3. Delone Carter, RB, Syracuse
4. Julius Thomas, TE, Portland State
5. Chris Hairston, OT, Clemson
6. Taylor Potts, QB, Texas Tech
7. Craig Marshall, OLB, South Florida
7. Ricardo Lockette, WR, Fort Valley State

Through together that draft scenario real quick so don't be take it as gospel haha
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Trade down

1. Stefan Wisniewski
2. Jordan Todman
3. Lance Kendricks
4. John Moffitt

O-line: Long, Moffitt, Wisniewski, Garner/Jerry, Carey
TE: Fasano, Kendricks, Shuler
RB: Ronnie, Todman, Hilliard, Sheets, Cobbs

Trade future 1st round pick for Kolb. Get a WR in FA (preferably Jacoby Jones), an OLB for depth in FA....And watch this team make the Playoffs.
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How would everyone rank our needs? This is how I have it but I'd be interested in seeing everyone else's too:

Starter:
1. C
2. LG
3. RB (depth only if Ronnie Brown returns)

Depth:
4. Deep Threat WR (still think Hartline is decent in his role but would be nice to have him in the 4/ST ace like we wanted him to be when we drafted him)
5. QB*
6. Pass catching TE (I like the upside of the young guys we collected last year but wouldn't be opposed with using a top pick on one instead of gambling one of them develops)
7. Pass rushing specialist OLB (Wake needs a backup and insurance policy)
8. Swing OT (Nate Garner could be this guy but I still fear a serious injury to Long or Carey enough to list this as a depth need)

*I am one of those people that still thinks Henne can be a productive NFL QB if he has a running game but last year the interior line and playcalling really killed any ideas of a run game. That's why I put C/OG so high and QB so low. I don't think we can totally ignore QB, we need to bring in a veteran we can trust in case of injury and a young gun, I just don't think we need to take the young gun in the first two rounds.

I also think it would be nice to find a long-term replacement for Yeremiah Bell but that could be Jones, Clemons, or Amaya so I don't really think we need to address that quite yet. If we lose Soliai, NT becomes a higher need but I like Chris Baker as a developmental guy there so as long as Soliai returns I don't think we need to address NT. I'd actually be ok with the depth inside if we got a good C and LG as Berger and McQ would be solid depth guys, just not good full-time starters. Competition for Polite, Carpenter, and Fields (Carp and Fields more to prevent them from wearing down like they did this year since we had no other camp legs) is necessary but not a draft pick.

Potential Draft Scenario:
1 (15). Trade down and get 2nd round pick
1 (Mid-to-late-20s). Stefen Wisniewski, C, Penn State
2. Ben Ijalana, OG, Villanova
3. Delone Carter, RB, Syracuse
4. Julius Thomas, TE, Portland State
5. Chris Hairston, OT, Clemson
6. Taylor Potts, QB, Texas Tech
7. Craig Marshall, OLB, South Florida
7. Ricardo Lockette, WR, Fort Valley State

Through together that draft scenario real quick so don't be take it as gospel haha
Wow, I'd be on the verge of suicide if that's how our draft ended up. One of the more bland drafts I've ever seen. Definitely see our FO pulling off something like that though.

I think our top need is obviously QB right now, but with little to no chance of Cam or Blaine falling to us, a trade down is both likely and essential to our success in this draft. We can grab a QB like Christian Ponder or Ricky Stanzi in the 2nd or 3rd, or maybe even Locker or Mallett depending on how far they fall on draft day.

In a trade down I could see us going a number of ways, maybe addressing the OL with a guard like Pouncey or an OT like Carimi or Castonzo depending on what we decide to do with Carey in the offseason. But OG and RB probably round off our two other biggest needs besides QB. Obviously RB becomes a higher priority if we let Ronnie AND Ricky walk as expected. I'm still holding out hope we reach a deal with Ronnie though.

Then the rest of the draft needs to be used to give us some more weapons on offense including a legit #2 WR like Leonard Hankerson, Titus Young or a guy like DeAndre Brown or Tandon Doss in the 4th or 5th. We also need a center that can come in and hold down that spot. We could use a tight end that can actually stretch the field behind Fasano and Shockey, who probably won't be around past this year. Then lastly add some depth at running back, linebacker and maybe even cornerback.

My list of needs goes like this:

1. QB
2. RB
3. OG/OT
4. WR
5. TE
6. ILB/OLB

And a draft like this, IMO would settle a lot of these needs:

(With Trade down)

1. Mike Pouncey, OG, Florida
2. Christian Ponder, QB, Florida State
3. Kendall Hunter, RB, Oklahoma State
4. Virgil Green, TE, Nevada
5. DeAndre Brown, WR, Southern Miss
6. Nick Claytor, OT, Georgia Tech
7. Alex Wujciak, LB, Maryland
7. Alex Green, RB, Hawaii
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How would everyone rank our needs? This is how I have it but I'd be interested in seeing everyone else's too:

Starter:
1. C
2. LG
3. RB (depth only if Ronnie Brown returns)

Depth:
4. Deep Threat WR (still think Hartline is decent in his role but would be nice to have him in the 4/ST ace like we wanted him to be when we drafted him)
5. QB*
6. Pass catching TE (I like the upside of the young guys we collected last year but wouldn't be opposed with using a top pick on one instead of gambling one of them develops)
7. Pass rushing specialist OLB (Wake needs a backup and insurance policy)
8. Swing OT (Nate Garner could be this guy but I still fear a serious injury to Long or Carey enough to list this as a depth need)

*I am one of those people that still thinks Henne can be a productive NFL QB if he has a running game but last year the interior line and playcalling really killed any ideas of a run game. That's why I put C/OG so high and QB so low. I don't think we can totally ignore QB, we need to bring in a veteran we can trust in case of injury and a young gun, I just don't think we need to take the young gun in the first two rounds.

I also think it would be nice to find a long-term replacement for Yeremiah Bell but that could be Jones, Clemons, or Amaya so I don't really think we need to address that quite yet. If we lose Soliai, NT becomes a higher need but I like Chris Baker as a developmental guy there so as long as Soliai returns I don't think we need to address NT. I'd actually be ok with the depth inside if we got a good C and LG as Berger and McQ would be solid depth guys, just not good full-time starters. Competition for Polite, Carpenter, and Fields (Carp and Fields more to prevent them from wearing down like they did this year since we had no other camp legs) is necessary but not a draft pick.

Potential Draft Scenario:
1 (15). Trade down and get 2nd round pick
1 (Mid-to-late-20s). Stefen Wisniewski, C, Penn State
2. Ben Ijalana, OG, Villanova
3. Delone Carter, RB, Syracuse
4. Julius Thomas, TE, Portland State
5. Chris Hairston, OT, Clemson
6. Taylor Potts, QB, Texas Tech
7. Craig Marshall, OLB, South Florida
7. Ricardo Lockette, WR, Fort Valley State

Through together that draft scenario real quick so don't be take it as gospel haha
I would say needs would be:

QB, RB, Speed WR, Interior OL, TE, ILB, OLB, S

I say a trade down or 2 could net them an extra #2 and a #3. Lets say to no. 18 with SD for a #3 and to #29 with Chicago for a #2 for my draft scenario.

As an aside, the 2 players I think they should consider and I think will move up by draft day to around the #15 spot would be Jon Baldwin and Kyle Rudolph. I think both will be big time guys who fill needs. I also think the OL positions will be taken care of with a big FA signing (whenever that is) A guy like a Blalock or Davin Joseph could be a target...

Anyway, here we go.

1 - Ryan Mallett
2 - Cecil Shorts
3a - Kendall Hunter
3b - Bilal Powell
4 - Virgil Green
After that, best available....
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Is anyone else getting sick of seeing every mock having us take Mark Ingram? I mean seriously. Ingram isnt an elite back so why waste a top half pick on the guy? I just cant see how that would be a good pick. RB's are dime a dozen and we can easily find us a good back in the 3rd round. Now if we were able to trade down to mid 20's and pick up a 2nd, then I wouldnt mind Ingram but no way at 15th and without a 2nd rounder.
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Is anyone else getting sick of seeing every mock having us take Mark Ingram? I mean seriously. Ingram isnt an elite back so why waste a top half pick on the guy? I just cant see how that would be a good pick. RB's are dime a dozen and we can easily find us a good back in the 3rd round. Now if we were able to trade down to mid 20's and pick up a 2nd, then I wouldnt mind Ingram but no way at 15th and without a 2nd rounder.
I totally agree with you. It's getting quite annoying seeing Ingram's name in there in every mock. There's some great options for us in the 3rd round that would fill the exact same role, in my latest mock I've got us taking Ryan Williams there. I'm not even sure that Ingram is worth a 1st round pick in the first place. We have way more needs to take a RB that high.
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I totally agree with you. It's getting quite annoying seeing Ingram's name in there in every mock. There's some great options for us in the 3rd round that would fill the exact same role, in my latest mock I've got us taking Ryan Williams there. I'm not even sure that Ingram is worth a 1st round pick in the first place. We have way more needs to take a RB that high.
You ould be onto somethign with that Williams pick. We've shown a ton of interest in him so far. Maybe we've cooled on taking Ingram so high and could be targeting a trade down to get a 2nd and getting Williams there in the 2nd. I'm on board, I love this kid!
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You ould be onto somethign with that Williams pick. We've shown a ton of interest in him so far. Maybe we've cooled on taking Ingram so high and could be targeting a trade down to get a 2nd and getting Williams there in the 2nd. I'm on board, I love this kid!
That would be perfect. Trade down to take a guard, get Williams in the 2nd and look for help on D in the 3rd.
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Don't mean to troll or anything, but as a Bucs fan, and hearings from certain boards, Miami may be looking to trade out of the 15 spot. Most mocks have Kerrigan going to Jacksonville at 16 and the Bucs have Kerrigan high on there board. As Dolphin fans, what do you think would be a reasonable trade up from 20 to 15? I was thinking a 1st, 3rd in this years draft, and 2012 5th round pick that can be a 4th with certain incentives.

I think Miami is a prime candidate for a trading partner with the Bucs who are going to covet a DE and to move up to 15 from 20 should not cost a 2nd round pick.

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Don't mean to troll or anything, but as a Bucs fan, and hearings from certain boards, Miami may be looking to trade out of the 15 spot. Most mocks have Kerrigan going to Jacksonville at 16 and the Bucs have Kerrigan high on there board. As Dolphin fans, what do you think would be a reasonable trade up from 20 to 15? I was thinking a 1st, 3rd in this years draft, and 2012 5th round pick that can be a 4th with certain incentives.

I think Miami is a prime candidate for a trading partner with the Bucs who are going to covet a DE and to move up to 15 from 20 should not cost a 2nd round pick.

Thoughts?

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Definitely think Miami is going to trade down but I'm not sure 20 is far enough. We REALLY want to get a 2nd round pick and there's a good chance there will be some great players on the board when we pick so I wouldn't be surprised to see a better offer come across that gives us that 2nd rounder.
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I totally agree with you. It's getting quite annoying seeing Ingram's name in there in every mock. There's some great options for us in the 3rd round that would fill the exact same role, in my latest mock I've got us taking Ryan Williams there. I'm not even sure that Ingram is worth a 1st round pick in the first place. We have way more needs to take a RB that high.
I think we're all sick of ingram there but fact is, nobody has Julio falling to us and nobody wants to put a big reach there like Pouncey or one of the QBs and nobody projects trades so its tough to find anything else.

FWIW, the two RBs I like the most are Jordan Todman and Shane Vereen. Lots of guys to like for a number of reasons this year so it should be interesting to see which one we end up with.
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Wow, I'd be on the verge of suicide if that's how our draft ended up. One of the more bland drafts I've ever seen. Definitely see our FO pulling off something like that though.
hahahaha, and this is why our opinions differ so much. i HATE flashy picks. I'm all about having a higher floor than a higher ceiling.
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As we all know the Dolphins need SPEED (WR and RB) in a big way on Offense and Special Teams. They also need a QB to bring some competition to Henne. We could use OL help as well. IMO those are the top 3 needs for the fins and they all rate up there pretty high as far as needs. We could argue all day on which need is greater. Other needs include, TE, FS, NT and LB.

Here are a few players on my wish list. I am not 100% sure what round they are going to fall in but I hope the Dolphins take them.

RB Dion Lewis -- not real fast but VERY quick. Will be a very good change of pace/3rd down back and special teams returner.

RB Da’Rel Scott -- Fast RB with good vision and instincts. He also has decent lateral quickness.

There are 3 TE's that are intriguing to me. They are Jordan Cameron, Rob Housler and Schuylar Oordt. They are not your blocking TE types they are the pass catching TE's and will go in the late rounds. Jordan is my favorite of the 3.

MY QB wish list goes in order like this below.

Gabbert, Newton, Mallett, Kaepernick, Locker, Dalton, Stanzi, Devlin and then Van Camp.

The 1st 2 will be long gone before we pick at 15 but Mallett may be there. Do we risk a 15th pick here or trade down? I say trade down and keep sights on Kaepernick for a real late 1st rnd pick. If we miss the boat on the top 5 then Dalton and Stanzi may be available in the third and Devlin and Van Camp will be available in later rounds. I like Devlin but he may be more a west cost offense guy and not an option. Oh and lets not forget Enderle he could be a late round option too. I say the top 5 QB's listed above will be gone by early 2nd. This is why I would like to see the Fins trade down and pick up Kaepernick late first.

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Interesting tidbit from the Miami Herald.

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolph...er-rounds.html
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Did a forum mock elsewhere and here's how it turned out:

2. Torrey Smith, WR, Maryland
2. Orlando Franklin, OG/OT, Miami (FL)
3. Jordan Todman, RB, Connecticut
3. Will Rackley, OG, Lehigh
4. D.J. Williams, TE, Arkansas
5. Traded for Vince Young
6. Ugo Chinasa, OLB, Oklahoma State
6. Taylor Potts, QB, Texas Tech
7. Evan Royster, RB, Penn State
7. Harold Ayodele, NT, Emporia State
7. Frank Kearse, DT/DE, Alabama A&M

Traded around some here and there to acquire more picks/move up and down but overall I was really happy with the haul. Torrey Smith would become the number 2/deep threat we've been needing. Franklin and Rackley would compete for starting OG spots while Franklin could fill in at OT if Carey/Long had injuries. Todman would be, at worst, a COP back/KR while Royster would push Hilliard or be the third down back with his strong receiving and blocking skills. D.J. Williams would provide us with a receiving TE/H-Back which seems to be something the new OC wants to have. Chinasa would give us a pass rush specialist to backup Wake. Kearse would compete for McDaniel's old spot and Ayodele would compete for the backup NT position/give us a developmental guy as Soliai is a one-year wonder at this point and its not certain he'll get an extension immediately. VY and Potts give us an immediate competitor for Henne and a developmental QB as Pennington and Thigpen are likely to depart.
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Nice trades and picks but unless there is a CBA before the draft there will be no player trades. Draft picks can be traded but not players. So the VY trade would not be possible.

I believe the pick all hinges on how they feel about Henne. If they feel he's only backup material they may take a chance on 1 of these 3 QB's late first -- Mallett, Kaepernick, or Locker. IMO all of those guys will go late 1st, early 2nd and Mallett may even go before that. Plus if Miami is going to take a chance late 1st on 1 of the 3 I would prefer Mallet or Kaepernick. So if Miami likes or wants 1 of those 3 they will prolly have to take that chance in the 1st. Mallet is moving up boards. His talent is overcoming all the issues/non-issues the personal stuff so he may be gone even before our pick at 15. Mallet to me is also a strong possibility if Miami stays at 15. He is meeting with the Fins next week.

If they feel Henne's the guy then 1 of the top OT's could be a strong possibility in the 1st. There is no doubt we need OL and a good right tackle would fit nicely and I like (Castonzo, Solder and Carimi). Tyron Smith will be gone. They could move Carey into RG. Or they could take Pouncey late 1st.

I really like the 2 backs I mention and know they can be had in later rounds. I am thinking 3rd or 4th but that is just a guess. What round do you see Da'Rel Scott and Dion Lewis going in?

If I am GM I trade down in the late 1st and pick up a 2nd rnd pick. Then with the late 1st, I take Mallet if he's there. If not I take Kaepernick.

My draftmas wish goes like this.

1st pick 15 -- trade
Late 1st -- Mallet QB Arkansas
2nd from trade partner -- Orlando Franklin, OT / OG, Miami (FL)
3rd # 79 -- Edmond Gates WR Abilene Christian
4th # 111 -- Jordan Cameron, TE, USC
5th # 146 -- Taiwan Jones, RB, Eastern Washington
6th # 179 -- Kris O'Dowd, C, USC
7th # 217 -- Dion Lewis RB Pitt
7th # 218 -- Terry Griffin NT Elizabeth City State
7th # 234 -- Keith Williams OG Nebraska

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Well, we are 17 days and counting... I have begun to feel like some others that QB will not be an early priority (and I hope that is true). The only guy I could see them taking early (n/i Gabbert, Newton) is Stanzi. Just fits too much of the criteria for them to not consider him. If he somehow dropped to rd 3, I think he would be picked. Don't see that happening, though.

Anyway, in looking at the #15 spot, if no trade down winds up being available, I think there are 3 potential options... Pouncey, Aldon Smith and Ingram. They all have positives, but in the end, I think that I would rank those guys in that order, and I think Pouncey should be the pick, but not to play LG, not center. If Jerry winds up improving (and I think he will), that will give us 3 solid guys for the future of this line. I think Smith would be the next best option despite the more obvious offensive needs. Very talented guy who could be the perfect extra 3rd down pass rusher we need. Last would be Ingram. I just don't see any advantage to taking him when they could use picks in rds 3 to 5 to pick some guys who aren't that far behind him in potential....

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Bros- just wondering what you think about the 4th slide of this article

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/6...81441#comments

Do you think DeAngelo is a lock for the Fins or do you agree and think that you will resign Ronnie and/or Ricky
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I am really starting to think that they are not going to move down and that the pick will be Kaepernick in rd 1. As much as I would like Mallett to be the pick, I think Kaepernick "fits the suit" for them too much...
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Bros- just wondering what you think about the 4th slide of this article

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/6...81441#comments

Do you think DeAngelo is a lock for the Fins or do you agree and think that you will resign Ronnie and/or Ricky
Delayed response but I don't see Ronnie returning. Regime has made a point to mention that durability is key for the RB position. Ricky might be brought back depending how the draft falls but I don't see Ronnie returning barring him getting zero interest in free agency. I think there's a ton of mutual interest for DeAngelo so I'd be surprised we didn't sign him as I don't think he'll get more money elsewhere. Honestly don't think the draft will affect free agency decisions though unless we double down on RBs early. They definitely want to add two to the mix that will definitely stick on the team. Whether its through draft, free agency, or re-signings.
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Well, I think Parcells screwed us last night. Have a feeling that what he showed is very similar to Dolphins board.... Some of the names were surprises..

Nate Irving - 1st rd
Dontay Moch - 2nd rd
Gabe Carimi - 3rd rd

There were many others referenced in the sun-sentinel article this morning, but I agree with the premise that the Miami board probably looks very similar to the one on TV last night.. That is all we needed.....
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I doubt that Parcell's board hurt the Dolphins. I would imagine that several teams boards look the same.
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