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Old 03-08-2011, 09:12 PM    (permalink
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LOL, Newt did an interview with Mike Mayock and called him "Mr. McShay".
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It is absolutely a factor. Sam Bradford's Pro Day was indoors last year. So was Matt Ryan's. It doesn't have to be a monsoon to make an impact; and you're comparing windy conditions to two Pro Days that were held indoors in absolutely perfect conditions.


Wind must've been blowing around 44 MPH inside Lucas Oil Stadium the other day when Scam Knewton was throwing
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Wind must've been blowing around 44 MPH inside Lucas Oil Stadium the other day when Scam Knewton was throwing
Yeah. And today at his pro day it was one of those hurricane force wind days where towels, clothes and hair remain perfectly still because of the shear force of wind. Gatorade bottles remain perfectly propped in the grass due to the horrific downthrust of gale force gusts. Not a single ball appears to flutter just because the tornado like effect encapsulates and guides the ball unerringly away from the wide receiver while maintaining a spiral.

Newton improved over a horrible showing at the combine. He didn't do well enough to really change how anyone feels about him.
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Not that anyone knows off the top, but IMO it's unusual for top QB prospects to workout outdoors.

Cam ain't scared!!!!

You're getting just as bad as the haters, by spinning everything into a positive.
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Brooks Reed 1.54 10 yd split. Damn.
Brooks Reed is turning into my favorite underrated OLB prospect. There's a few pro bowls in that young man's future IMO.

What round/range of picks will he be drafted???
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Brooks Reed is turning into my favorite underrated OLB prospect. There's a few pro bowls in that young man's future IMO.

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i think he ends up late first to a team like ravens, atl, pats, nyj, or packers.
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i think he ends up late first to a team like ravens, atl, pats, nyj, or packers.
I would enjoy him in KC, oooh yueahhhhh
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Ok so Newton improved his throwing performance. Fine & dandy.

Never thought he would be close to the 1st QB taken, wrong style, teams simply want that pocket passer who can make all the throws & not get rattled when 300-pounders flatten them from time to time, stay healthy & play there as their Face of the Franchise for yrs. And he has only one yr. of Auburn videotapes to evaluate him, that that might increase the risk factor for some teams too. I don't think any new teams will now enter the lists of his suitors.

But what about Fairley? He's the Auburn guy who most needed to improve his stock in the Pro Day after apparently horrible Combine interviews
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I believe Brooks Reed will be a Chief.
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Ok so Newton improved his throwing performance. Fine & dandy.

Never thought he would be close to the 1st QB taken, wrong style, teams simply want that pocket passer who can make all the throws & not get rattled when 300-pounders flatten them from time to time, stay healthy & play there as their Face of the Franchise for yrs. And he has only one yr. of Auburn videotapes to evaluate him, that that might increase the risk factor for some teams too. I don't think any new teams will now enter the lists of his suitors.

But what about Fairley? He's the Auburn guy who most needed to improve his stock in the Pro Day after apparently horrible Combine interviews
McShay (i know) said his workout yesterday was one of the best he's ever seen, take that fwiw. To me he looks like Warren Sapp, which could make him a big ###hole but a great player.

I found it interesting that Elway and Fox were there, it was obviously to see Fairley, either that or it was the biggest diss of Tim Tebow ever.
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Newton did well at his pro day? BIG SURPRISE

I told you guys, they are meaningless. He sucked at the combine because he didn't have time to rehearse all the throws properly. He's probably been practicing those 60 passes he made 1000s of times a day since

This is why everyone who said Gabbert should've changed his mind and thrown at the combine had no idea what they were talking about
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Newton did well at his pro day? BIG SURPRISE

I told you guys, they are meaningless. He sucked at the combine because he didn't have time to rehearse all the throws properly. He's probably been practicing those 60 passes he made 1000s of times a day since

This is why everyone who said Gabbert should've changed his mind and thrown at the combine had no idea what they were talking about
My position on Gabbert is you throw and let the chips fall where they may, show some balls. In the end he might of made a wise choice but i respect the guys that put it on the line.
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Newton did well at his pro day? BIG SURPRISE

I told you guys, they are meaningless. He sucked at the combine because he didn't have time to rehearse all the throws properly. He's probably been practicing those 60 passes he made 1000s of times a day since

This is why everyone who said Gabbert should've changed his mind and thrown at the combine had no idea what they were talking about
Gee, I thought all the great QB's spend hours working with their receivers running patterns till they perfect them. But I guess you can tell more about him when he works with WR's who he hasn't a clue about, and no knowledge of their speed.
Gee, according to you he has been practicing hard to perfect his throws to receivers he knows till he gets them perfect, hardly a reason to suspect he might have a work ethic to be a great pro????
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lol nice spin there man. are you the Canadian Bill OReilly?

I'm not talking about Cam Newton or any quarterback in specific really. This is more of a general thing. If you've been prepping for drills (which you absolutely should - if you don't, it's a huge red flag) you're ALWAYS going to look good doing them at your combine, pro day, whatever.

There is absolutely zero reason to change your mind days before the combine on whether you are going to throw, work out, whatever. The only time I can remember a last second decision like that working out for someone is when Calvin Johnson ran the 40
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Gee, I thought all the great QB's spend hours working with their receivers running patterns till they perfect them. But I guess you can tell more about him when he works with WR's who he hasn't a clue about, and no knowledge of their speed.
Gee, according to you he has been practicing hard to perfect his throws to receivers he knows till he gets them perfect, hardly a reason to suspect he might have a work ethic to be a great pro????
So not only is Cam Newton somehow a better competitor because he was willing to put up with... 14 mph winds.

Now, his pro day is somehow evidence that he is a hard worker. Except that he only completed 50/60 passes, so... does that mean he's lazy? He'd be a harder worker if he completed 59/60, right?
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[quote=SchizophrenicBatman;2548593]lol nice spin there man. are you the Canadian Bill OReilly?

I'm not talking about Cam Newton or any quarterback in specific really. This is more of a general thing. If you've been prepping for drills (which you absolutely should - if you don't, it's a huge red flag) you're ALWAYS going to look good doing them at your combine, pro day, whatever.

That's where I think you are wrong. A weak armed QB cannot hide his weak arm in a pro day drill, nor can he hide slow feet, or accuracy. After they finish their practiced drills, the GM's and scouts often ask a prospect to go through a few drills which relate to their team's offense. it is a very common practice, and when the prospect goes for a private workout later on, the teams design the drills.
The only thing hidden in a drill is the player motivation to be great, his ability to read defenses, his pocket presence and other intangibles. These areas cannot be determined at a pro day.
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McShay tweeted Mark Ingram ran a 4.43 today. Also saw 4.47-4.53 and 4.50 to 4.56 (according to SI).
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Did Nate Irving do his Pro Day yet?
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But what about Fairley? He's the Auburn guy who most needed to improve his stock in the Pro Day after apparently horrible Combine interviews
He looked really, really good. He was up to 297 and looked really, really agile and had tremendous footwork.
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McShay tweeted Mark Ingram ran a 4.43 today. Also saw 4.47-4.53 and 4.50 to 4.56 (according to SI).
Do they run the 35 yd dash down there? that time is nuts and quite a change from the combine where he was around a high 4.5. Probably gets him squarely in the first round but dont see it being in the first 16 picks or so.
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Do they run the 35 yd dash down there? that time is nuts and quite a change from the combine where he was around a high 4.5. Probably gets him squarely in the first round but dont see it being in the first 16 picks or so.
4.47-4.53 is exactly the range he was expected to run in Indy. It is possible he had a bad run at the combine or could of improved his speed slightly since it.
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Did Nate Irving do his Pro Day yet?
HEY!!!! You leave him alone, buddy!
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HEY!!!! You leave him alone, buddy!
You have enough linebackers!

Spread the wealth! Or trade us Timmons for our 1st.
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You have enough linebackers!

Spread the wealth! Or trade us Timmons for our 1st.
We will trade you Timmons for your first, Terrell Thomas, Corey Webster, and Kenny Phillips!!
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4.47-4.53 is exactly the range he was expected to run in Indy. It is possible he had a bad run at the combine or could of improved his speed slightly since it.
I think those times do him good, looking at the places he could end up it's hard to slot him. It could be someone like a New England, Indy or Green Bay even.
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