2011 Final Forum Mock Discussion Thread - Page 17

phlysac · 04-28-2011, 11:46 AM

Can we get a pick made for the Broncos? OTC for over 4 hours now. We need to do whatever we can to get this finished.

diabsoule · 04-28-2011, 12:24 PM

I'll go ahead and pick for the Broncos

DiG · 04-28-2011, 01:49 PM

cardinals win! you just got yourselves a potential starter in the 7th round!

phlysac · 04-28-2011, 02:07 PM

49ers Final Results

1 (7) Prince Amukamara - CB - Nebraska
2 (39) Christian Ponder - QB - Florida State
3 (76) Dontay Moch - OLB - Nevada
4 (115) Daniel Thomas - RB - Kansas State
5 (141) Chimdi Chekwa - CB - Ohio State
6 (174) Cedric Thornton - DE - Southern Arkansas
6 (190) Dion Lewis - RB - Pittsburgh
7 (211) Rob Housler - TE - Florida Atlantic
7 (231) Stanley Havili - FB - USC
7 (239) Anthony Gray - NT - Southern Mississippi
7 (250) Courtney Smith - WR - South Alabama

Thoughts?

Ward · 04-28-2011, 03:04 PM

Final draft for Dallas:
9. Tyron Smith OT/USC
40. Allen Bailey DE/Miami
71. Kenrick Ellis NT/Hampton
110. Shareece Wright CB/USC
143. Chris Conte S/Cal
176. Jason Kelce C/Cincinnati
220. Bruce Miller LB/UCF
252. Kyle Hix OT/Texas

SeanTaylorRIP · 04-28-2011, 03:29 PM

Skins Final draft haul!! This is only setting me up for complete disappointment tonight:

26. Washington (f/ BAL) (12-4) - Brooks Reed DE/Arizona
45. Washington (f/ TEN through SF) (6-10) - Christian Ballard DT/Iowa
73. Washington(f/ HOU through NE through ATL) (14-2) - Rodney Hudson OG/Florida State
109. Washington(f/TEN) (6-10)- Chykie Brown CB/Texas
123. Washington (f/ BAL) (12-4)- Jordan Todman RB/UCONN
177. Washington (6-10) - Greg McElroy QB/Alabama
188. Washington (f/ IND) (10-6) - Joseph Barksdale OT/LSU
224. Washington - from Indianapolis* (10-6) - Stephen Burton WR/West Texas A&M
253. Washington (compensatory)- Ryan Bartholomew C/Syracuse

Thanks to my partner DT for collaborating! We tried to trade back into the 5th round to grab either Stephen Burton or Bartholomew, turns out we get them at the end of the 7th.

phlysac · 04-28-2011, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DJC

The Bucs draft is now complete

1 (20) Ryan Kerrigan, DE Purdue
2 (64) Curtis Brown, CB Texas
3 (84) Ryan Williams, RB Virginia Tech
4 (116) Ahmad Black, S Florida
4 (125) Virgil Green, TE Nevada
5 (151) Cliff Matthews, DE South Carolina
5 (163) Ross Homan, LB Ohio State
6 (187) Anthony Sherman, FB UConn
7 (222) Vincent Brown, WR San Diego State
7 (238) Pat Devlin, QB Delaware

I only evaluate for the 49ers so I have no idea how these picks fit any of your needs but I really like several of your players who were targets of mine as well. Specifically Williams, Green, Sherman, and Brown. The 49ers and Bucs don't share an offensive or defensive philosophy but at least it appears we see talent in similar players.

phlysac · 04-28-2011, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SeanTaylorRIP

Skins Final draft haul!! This is only setting me up for complete disappointment tonight:

26. Washington (f/ BAL) (12-4) - Brooks Reed DE/Arizona
45. Washington (f/ TEN through SF) (6-10) - Christian Ballard DT/Iowa
73. Washington(f/ HOU through NE through ATL) (14-2) - Rodney Hudson OG/Florida State
109. Washington(f/TEN) (6-10)- Chykie Brown CB/Texas
123. Washington (f/ BAL) (12-4)- Jordan Todman RB/UCONN
177. Washington (6-10) - Greg McElroy QB/Alabama
188. Washington (f/ IND) (10-6) - Joseph Barksdale OT/LSU
224. Washington - from Indianapolis* (10-6) - Stephen Burton WR/West Texas A&M
253. Washington (compensatory)- Ryan Bartholomew C/Syracuse

Thanks to my partner DT for collaborating! We tried to trade back into the 5th round to grab either Stephen Burton or Bartholomew, turns out we get them at the end of the 7th.

The only player I didn't like where you picked them was Barksdale, but I didn't evaluate OTs very closely. Your run of Todman, McElroy, Burton and Bartholomew was tremendous. They were all targets of mine as well.

fenikz · 04-28-2011, 03:37 PM

1. Robert Quinn, OLB, North Carolina
1. Anthony Castonzo, OT, Boston College
3. Davon House, CB, New Mexico State
3. Luke Stocker, TE, Tennessee
6. Ricky Elmore, OLB, Arizona
6. Henry Hynoski, FB, Pittsburgh
6. Stephen Schilling, OG, Michigan
7. Alex Wujciak, ILB, Maryland

Now I'm done!

Ward · 04-28-2011, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SeanTaylorRIP

Skins Final draft haul!! This is only setting me up for complete disappointment tonight:

26. Washington (f/ BAL) (12-4) - Brooks Reed DE/Arizona
45. Washington (f/ TEN through SF) (6-10) - Christian Ballard DT/Iowa
73. Washington(f/ HOU through NE through ATL) (14-2) - Rodney Hudson OG/Florida State
109. Washington(f/TEN) (6-10)- Chykie Brown CB/Texas
123. Washington (f/ BAL) (12-4)- Jordan Todman RB/UCONN
177. Washington (6-10) - Greg McElroy QB/Alabama
188. Washington (f/ IND) (10-6) - Joseph Barksdale OT/LSU
224. Washington - from Indianapolis* (10-6) - Stephen Burton WR/West Texas A&M
253. Washington (compensatory)- Ryan Bartholomew C/Syracuse

Thanks to my partner DT for collaborating! We tried to trade back into the 5th round to grab either Stephen Burton or Bartholomew, turns out we get them at the end of the 7th.

I am consistently reminded of how great it is that STRIP doesn't actually run Washington, because then Dallas would be in trouble. Here's to hoping Washington's draft never ends up being this sane!

SeanTaylorRIP · 04-28-2011, 03:51 PM

Don't worry Ward as long as Snyder is alive the skins will never be relevant. That son of a b is going to out live me and will never sell the team. Here's to hoping one day through miracle VA is granted an NFL time.

diabsoule · 04-28-2011, 04:02 PM

Final Saints Draft.

1. - Da'Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson
2. - Quan Sturdivant, LB, North Carolina
3. - Kelvin Sheppard, LB, L.S.U.
3. - Lance Kendricks, TE, Alex Green
7. - Alex Green, RB, Hawaii
7. - Mario Fannin, RB/WR, Auburn

Ward · 04-28-2011, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SeanTaylorRIP

Don't worry Ward as long as Snyder is alive the skins will never be relevant. That son of a b is going to out live me and will never sell the team. Here's to hoping one day through miracle VA is granted an NFL time.

I feel you, Jerry is only marginally better.

SeanTaylorRIP · 04-28-2011, 04:05 PM

We did it fellas! finished the draft 3 hours before the real draft. Perfect timing. Just be aware that every single one of you has now set yourselves up for disappointment this weekend. Everyone here has had a great draft.

jayceheathman · 04-28-2011, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SeanTaylorRIP

We did it fellas! finished the draft 3 hours before the real draft. Perfect timing. Just be aware that every single one of you has now set yourselves up for disappointment this weekend. Everyone here has had a great draft.

I will be crying my eyes out in disappointment if the Texans take Aldon Smith and Amukamara is still on the board. Still hoping for a trade up for Peterson though.

SeanTaylorRIP · 04-28-2011, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jayceheathman

I will be crying my eyes out in disappointment if the Texans take Aldon Smith and Amukamara is still on the board.

I would give you Amukamara but drafting Aldon is far from some of the attrocious picks that will happen tonight.

Ward · 04-28-2011, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SeanTaylorRIP

I would give you Amukamara but drafting Aldon is far from some of the attrocious picks that will happen tonight.

Yeah, the best part of the draft is when some other team makes a head scratching pick, thus leaving your team's target untouched. And then your team does it and you cry into your beer.

jayceheathman · 04-28-2011, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SeanTaylorRIP

I would give you Amukamara but drafting Aldon is far from some of the attrocious picks that will happen tonight.

That is true. I could be a Jags fan. I am sure they will make the head scratching pick again.

phlysac · 04-28-2011, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jayceheathman

I am sure they will make the head scratching pick again.

I'm hearing the run on QBs will cause them to select Pat Devlin in the 2nd.

I kid.

MikeTheDudeV2 · 04-28-2011, 05:24 PM

What do you guys think of Carolina's draft?

1-1: QB Cam Newton/Auburn
3-68: DT Jurrell Casey/USC
3-97: DT Terrell McClain/South Florida
4-98: WR Tandon Doss/Indiana
5-132: TE Julius Thomas/Portland State
5-168: DE Jeremy Beal/Oklahoma
6-203: CB Kendric Burney/North Carolina
7-244: OG Justin Boren/Ohio State

diabsoule · 04-28-2011, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeTheDudeV2

What do you guys think of Carolina's draft?

1-1: QB Cam Newton/Auburn
3-68: DT Jurrell Casey/USC
3-97: DT Terrell McClain/South Florida
4-98: WR Tandon Doss/Indiana
5-132: TE Julius Thomas/Portland State
5-168: DE Jeremy Beal/Oklahoma
6-203: CB Kendric Burney/North Carolina
7-244: OG Justin Boren/Ohio State

Obviously I'm not a fan of Newton to Carolina but for a franchise that needs a recognizable face and an injection of talent at the QB position it's a solid pick.
I'm a big fan of Jurrell Casey and him along with Terrell McClain will provide an immediate upgrade along the defensive line and with those two picks you landed two starters.
Tandon Doss is someone I like that could come in and compete for the #2 spot opposite Steve Smith. Julius Thomas is a very, very solid selection for Carolina as he provides them with the type of dynamic pass-catching TE that they have lacked for years. He may take a year or two to develop, just like Cam will, but once he's there he will be a threat.
I like the value of Jeremy Beal and think he could be an effective rotational player. Burney in the 6th and Boren in the 7th are players that can come in and compete for back-up roles and you'll get some special teams potential with Kendrick Burney as well.

Overall it's a solid draft and I really how you addressed the Panthers needs along the defensive front while giving them a unique pass-catching TE that will be a red zone threat.

Overall grade: A-

phlysac · 04-28-2011, 05:47 PM

Great writeup diab. Any thoughts on my Niners mock above?

SeanTaylorRIP · 04-28-2011, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by phlysac

49ers Final Results

1 (7) Prince Amukamara - CB - Nebraska
2 (39) Christian Ponder - QB - Florida State
3 (76) Dontay Moch - OLB - Nevada
4 (115) Daniel Thomas - RB - Kansas State
5 (141) Chimdi Chekwa - CB - Ohio State
6 (174) Cedric Thornton - DE - Southern Arkansas
6 (190) Dion Lewis - RB - Pittsburgh
7 (211) Rob Housler - TE - Florida Atlantic
7 (231) Stanley Havili - FB - USC
7 (239) Anthony Gray - NT - Southern Mississippi
7 (250) Courtney Smith - WR - South Alabama

Thoughts?

Prince A+. Ponder is a nice pick although highly unlikely he's there at 39 come draft day(haha have used that phrase so much can't believe it is draft day). Love the Daniel Thomas pick in the 4th he's a potential replacement for Gore who can never stay healthy. Chekwa is a steal in the 5th and if he can get consistency and technique to match his physical tools he'll be a steal. Cedric Thornton is another great value pick who can play any spot on the line. I am a bit of a fan of Dion and he can be a good 3rd down back. Housler is a steal and a great backup for VD. Havili I'm a bit on the fence with. More of a HB than FB and he has some injury concerns. Anthony Gray is a nice rotational NT. Courtney Smith has a decent amount of upside. All in all I give you a B nearing a B+. Ulltimately this draft would be determined not on Prince but on if Moch becomes a stud or a bust. I probably would have tried to take at least one other OLB.

Hines · 04-28-2011, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Hines

1) Aaron Williams CB Texas
2) James Carpenter OL Alabama
3) DeMarco Murray RB Oklahoma
4) Sione Fua NT Stanford
5) Chris Hairston OT Clemson
6) Cortez Allen CB Citadel
7) David Carter DE UCLA

I'm done with my draft. Thoughts?

Thoughts on this???

phlysac · 04-28-2011, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SeanTaylorRIP

Prince A+. Ponder is a nice pick although highly unlikely he's there at 39 come draft day(haha have used that phrase so much can't believe it is draft day). Love the Daniel Thomas pick in the 4th he's a potential replacement for Gore who can never stay healthy. Chekwa is a steal in the 5th and if he can get consistency and technique to match his physical tools he'll be a steal. Cedric Thornton is another great value pick who can play any spot on the line. I am a bit of a fan of Dion and he can be a good 3rd down back. Housler is a steal and a great backup for VD. Havili I'm a bit on the fence with. More of a HB than FB and he has some injury concerns. Anthony Gray is a nice rotational NT. Courtney Smith has a decent amount of upside. All in all I give you a B nearing a B+. Ulltimately this draft would be determined not on Prince but on if Moch becomes a stud or a bust. I probably would have tried to take at least one other OLB.

Thanks for the comments. I consider Thaddeus Gibson a new draft pick at OLB. If 2 are drafted in 2011, 1 will be on Practice Squad assuredly. Also, if the 2010 CBA is the base for the 2011 season Manny Lawson will be a RFA giving the team 5 OLBs, 6 if they draft 2 this weekend.