NCAA Football '12 (video game) - Page 33

M.O.T.H. · 08-18-2011, 06:22 AM

My buddy and I teamed up and played 6 games online yesterday. Previously, I had only played 8 games online...but anyway, the game is pretty bad online this year. Everyone runs streaks or verts and the overall QB accuracy is garbage.

It was pretty funny, though. We went 5-1 and everyone we played, played with a similar style. Drop back 20 yards and run all verts. Pretty pathetic. We just mocked guys the whole time, because the games werent even competitive, or fun. So many people dont even try to learn how to play, they just get stuck in this pattern of running the same plays over and over, even if it's not working. Bleh. I offered to buy a few of them a strategy guide, because it was just funny. lol. The sad thing is, of the 5 games we won. Two of these guys were undefeated (4-0 and 10-0), and the other three, all had 100 or more games under their belts, with a lot more wins than loses. And I just couldnt believe they could win the way they were playing. The one dude was 76-20 and all he ran was three plays the entire game. Verticals, a draw out of shotgun, and some play where his WR would run a deep out and that's the only guy he would throw to. He also blitzed on every single play. And yet, he somehow has nearly an 80% winning percentage in 96 games.

Playing the game like that wouldnt even be fun to me at all. It's like guys who rocket catch all the time. That seems like it would get boring real quick.

Oh and apparetly there is some bug online that if you go offsides and block a FG as time expires, the game just ends and you dont get a first down or re-kick. Hence why we lost that one game. Cool beans.

BamaFalcon59 · 08-18-2011, 01:12 PM

Won the ship finally. My team got too beast. Upped the difficulty. Very hard now.

Bosanac01 · 08-18-2011, 01:35 PM

I wish when you recruit with teams like Georgia Tech (that have a triple option offense) you can actually recruit B-backs and wouldn't have to put a full back at that position. I also wish they can take away the TE position.

I really wish big guys had big strength, and the strength stat wouldn't be thrown around to anyone. I hate it when you recruit a monster DT of like 340 pounds, and he gets pancaked by the RB everytime. You also have RBs that are 160 pounds and their style is power. Their speed is like 80 but their tackle breaking stat is like 95. Pisses me off.

ElectricEye · 08-18-2011, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bosanac01

I wish when you recruit with teams like Georgia Tech (that have a triple option offense) you can actually recruit B-backs and wouldn't to put a full back at that position. I also wish they can take away the TE position.

I really wish big guys had big strength, and the strength stat wouldn't be thrown around to anyone. I hate it when you recruit a monster DT of like 340 pounds, and he gets pancaked by the RB everytime. You also have RBs that are 160 pounds and their style is power. Their speed is like 80 but their tackle breaking stat is like 95. Pisses me off.

These are two really big issues right now. It's basically impossible to run a proper 3-4 in both NCAA and Madden because the players don't have secondary/alternative position dictated by the scheme. It would be a real nice addition to the overall depth if they fixed that.

As far as strength and weight go, agree completely. It's time to take out the current system and implement something more physics based.

M.O.T.H. · 08-18-2011, 01:52 PM

34 has always been messed up in these games. 34 OLB dont rush when you simulate.

I dont really follow what you're trying to say EE in that first part.

ElectricEye · 08-18-2011, 02:23 PM

It would be nice if a guy had a secondary position, basically. Like for 4-3 position and a 3-4 position. Your 240 pound defensive end probably doesn't have any business trying to be a five technique if you run a 3-4. It would be great if they had a separate rating scale for that kind of thing.

M.O.T.H. · 08-18-2011, 02:30 PM

Well they tweaked position changes a bit...so I mean, if you want to make a 6'5 255 lb 43 DE into a 34 OLB...he'd still be pretty good in NCAA.

In Madden, if you make a defensive switch, you just gotta edit the player.

edit...you mean if you run multiple defenses and what not? Because you can have situational subs as well.

ElectricEye · 08-18-2011, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by M.O.T.H.

Well they tweaked position changes a bit...so I mean, if you want to make a 6'5 255 lb 43 DE into a 34 OLB...he'd still be pretty good in NCAA.

Not always. I've taken guys that were 80+ at DE and converted them to OLB's for 3-4 and had it drop into the 60's. Granted, this isn't such a big deal anymore since you can just edit things to your liking it bothers you that much(it does bother me)...but it's still not very eloquent.

SickwithIt1010 · 08-18-2011, 04:02 PM

I think the 3-4 is sweet in this game. I dont run it as my base D so I just sub my ends in at the OLB positions and use it as a situational pass rush package so I dont get hurt a ton in coverage.

ElectricEye · 08-18-2011, 06:34 PM

So any idea when the patch is coming out? I think I've already lost interest, but I would like to see how they break the game this go around at the very least.

M.O.T.H. · 08-19-2011, 06:03 PM

My friend and I played 5 more online games today. Should have went 5-0, but finished 4-1. The only loss was an overtime loss, where I went for the win, instead of another overtime. I called a QB sneak, which I never normally do, from the one, on 4th down. My dude had a wide open lane, but somehow couldnt even dive a yard. I cant stand that QB sneak auto-dive crap.

Other than that, we were pretty up and down, but we did beat some guy who was like 140-25 or something like that. So our ranking and skill level jumped a lot after that. Went from a level 4 to level 8, so obviously he had to be pretty highly rated. Jumped about 2000 spots in the rankings as well.

9-2 in two days of playing. Not bad, but we used to be better as a "team"...this game doesnt always make it easy.

khorn · 08-22-2011, 03:55 AM

Anyone have an issue with the game lagging terribly after one or two games played? I'm currently installing it on my hdd to see if it makes a difference, but in both online and offline exhibition play, after one game, the next game is extremely laggy. No clue why.

M.O.T.H. · 08-22-2011, 03:06 PM

hmmm....I dont know what is going on there. My game freezes sometimes when I'm recruiting and there can be lag problems online for sure, but I never see lag offline.

As for what I'm doing in NCAA right now. I started a dynasty with UTEP, I simmed the first year to get some of "my guys" in there. I really liked my recruiting class. I use the U's playbook and run a 34. Recruiting to a 34 is always good fun. And I love the players I landed. The player weights are where they should be, and I love my D-Line rotation. Mind you, the guys I brought in were 2 and 3 stars, so they're not world beaters with high overalls. But they're getting the job done. I'm in love with my backup DE he's like 6'4 290 lbs, and while he's a only a 62 overall, I love his indivisual ratings. 72 speed, 72 strength, 80 acceleration, 82 power, 78 power move, 70 finesse move, 72 block shed, 75 pursuit. I love guys like this.

A little recruiting tip...Juco players all day. haha. Everyone I got were studs. My QB and ROLB in particular. 2 star Juco players is where it's at.

QB was a 69 overall with 85 speed and 90 arm strength.
OLB was a 69 overall with 88 speed, 83 strength, 93 acceleration (6'6 236 lbs)

Its been fun, been playing on Heisman. It's still way too easy against the Conference USA, though. And I beat #11 Wisconsin as well. I just hate the fact that it's so easy to break long runs in this game. I have a FB starting at HB, and what sealed that game for me was him breaking like a 92 yarder. And it happens all the time. Not that realistic, obviously.

But yeah, I'm still having fun, though. The recruiting class I'm working on now, has me excited, too. I just have a lot of fun with these mid level schools, and finding guys to fit in the 34. Luckily, there are tons of 34 type OLBs in the recruiting pool every year, and you can find some awesome 34 Ends, I especially like to look for insanely athletic DT prospects and just move them to End. A lot of the middle linebackers have all the attributes to be amazing pass rushers at OLB, too. I'm always moving players around. Position changes for the win.

Bosanac01 · 08-22-2011, 03:14 PM

How is your NT? BTW I never recruit Juco guys, hate when new guys come in and they're not freshman.

What I do is get a low caliber college and simluate the first season, do the best job of recruiting I can and then redshirt everyone. Second year I simulate again and just recruit. Then 3rd year I ONLY start the freshman I recruited. Then I play every game, it's very fun for me.

M.O.T.H. · 08-22-2011, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bosanac01

How is your NT? BTW I never recruit Juco guys, hate when new guys come in and they're not freshman.

What I do is get a low caliber college and simluate the first season, do the best job of recruiting I can and then redshirt everyone. Second year I simulate again and just recruit. Then 3rd year I ONLY start the freshman I recruited. Then I play every game, it's very fun for me.

He's really good, he was already on the team.

Marcus Bagley. I redshirted him last year. So now he's a 76 overall with 93 strength. 6'2 324 lbs. mmmm. haha.

I also have that end I really like as his backup, so whenever I play nickel, he's in there.

For me, I'm not big on having a freshman start at QB. Not only will he be rattled as hell on the road, but I figure I'd get pretty bored of the guy, playing with him for four years. Even though, I never get that deep into these things anyway, when I just play. I start Freshman everywhere else, though.

As for Juco players...I def. prefer Juco Sophomores. That's always fun. Actually all the Juco guys I got were Sophomores, and while they're rated low, like 2 stars. A lot of them have higher overall ratings than 3 stars and some 4 stars.

Random...but I always seem to get lame duck 4 stars. Especially at RB. The one I got last off-season is 66 overall with 83 speed. :/

My biggest get was probably this 3 star ATH (6'6 228 lbs) He's a freaking scary ass WR. Only 83 speed, but 70 strength, and 75 truck....so he's a load to bring down.

edit...Here's that WR. A game I just played against Notre Dame. Last play of the game. yay.

http://www.easports.com/media/play/video/89891840

b316 · 08-22-2011, 06:20 PM

Use the Operation Sports sliders make it much more interesting game. Just don't tune down the roughing the passer to 85/70 where he has it set at 99.

But other than that the game has gotten a bit better.

wordofi · 08-22-2011, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by M.O.T.H.

He's really good, he was already on the team.

Marcus Bagley. I redshirted him last year. So now he's a 76 overall with 93 strength. 6'2 324 lbs. mmmm. haha.

I also have that end I really like as his backup, so whenever I play nickel, he's in there.

For me, I'm not big on having a freshman start at QB. Not only will he be rattled as hell on the road, but I figure I'd get pretty bored of the guy, playing with him for four years. Even though, I never get that deep into these things anyway, when I just play. I start Freshman everywhere else, though.

As for Juco players...I def. prefer Juco Sophomores. That's always fun. Actually all the Juco guys I got were Sophomores, and while they're rated low, like 2 stars. A lot of them have higher overall ratings than 3 stars and some 4 stars.

Random...but I always seem to get lame duck 4 stars. Especially at RB. The one I got last off-season is 66 overall with 83 speed. :/

My biggest get was probably this 3 star ATH (6'6 228 lbs) He's a freaking scary ass WR. Only 83 speed, but 70 strength, and 75 truck....so he's a load to bring down.

edit...Here's that WR. A game I just played against Notre Dame. Last play of the game. yay.

http://www.easports.com/media/play/video/89891840

That's why I create my prospects.

Bosanac01 · 08-22-2011, 11:30 PM

MOTH your QB throws like a girl.

M.O.T.H. · 08-23-2011, 09:14 AM

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MOTH your QB throws like a girl.

lol. I'm not complaining...well, his accuracy is horrible, but I appreciate the big arm.

wordofi · 08-24-2011, 04:43 PM

I just figured out that if you change the game tempo to conservative, then you can get to the line of scrimmage with 12 seconds left on the play clock when you have the ball.

M.O.T.H. · 08-24-2011, 05:26 PM

Yah...it's called "chew clock". It's a necessity when you play online.

M.O.T.H. · 08-25-2011, 05:36 PM

We won the game...but god we just ran into some weird ass defense.

This kid had his DE and DT spying...while having his other end in contain...he controlled the MLB and he was just playing straight coverage and there was nothing we can do against it. It was nuts. The coverage was absolutely perfect each time and you couldnt take off, because you'd be hawked instantly.

So lucky to win that game. I just stormed the middle of the field with slants in OT and one guy finally got away. But yeah, he started using this in the 2nd half and it was money.

My buddy and I went 3-1 online today. He had an "off" day on our loss. I had us up 14-0, but he gave up 28 points. 13-3 since playing as a "team".

khorn · 08-25-2011, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by M.O.T.H.

We won the game...but god we just ran into some weird ass defense.

This kid had his DE and DT spying...while having his other end in contain...he controlled the MLB and he was just playing straight coverage and there was nothing we can do against it. It was nuts. The coverage was absolutely perfect each time and you couldnt take off, because you'd be hawked instantly.

So lucky to win that game. I just stormed the middle of the field with slants in OT and one guy finally got away. But yeah, he started using this in the 2nd half and it was money.

My buddy and I went 3-1 online today. He had an "off" day on our loss. I had us up 14-0, but he gave up 28 points. 13-3 since playing as a "team".

When they run those crazy ass defenses, do they audble each player individually, before each play? A few nights ago i lost twice to a guy that had a defense doing god knows what. He had guys floating around in what looked like a 1-5-5 but it was a constant blitz. They played the run perfectly despite being off the ball and i could do little to nothing in the passing game without getting hit.

Also, how do you and your buddy "team" up? Can you play with two people online or do you just pass the remote to each other?

M.O.T.H. · 08-25-2011, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by khorn

When they run those crazy ass defenses, do they audble each player individually, before each play? A few nights ago i lost twice to a guy that had a defense doing god knows what. He had guys floating around in what looked like a 1-5-5 but it was a constant blitz. They played the run perfectly despite being off the ball and i could do little to nothing in the passing game without getting hit.

Also, how do you and your buddy "team" up? Can you play with two people online or do you just pass the remote to each other?

Nah...I play the 1st and 3rd quarters, he plays 2nd and 4th.

But yeah, he was doing it individually...faster than I've ever seen somebody do it. Seems like it takes me forever to just put my ends in contain, manually.

Online is weird...seems like things that dont work for us, are so easy for others. Like running for instance...our lineman dont hold their blocks, but people we play, have huge holes against us. And whenever we turn on aggressive blocking or hold blocks...nothing but penalties. It sucks. Also, people seem to use a lot of nickel and dime to stop the run online...and it works. As stupid as it is.

I only play with conservative catch and conservative run on. So I dont drop everything and fumble all the time.

LonghornsLegend · 08-25-2011, 06:38 PM

I have a question for someone who has gone through Dynasty mode as a coordinator before:

I'm the offensive coordinator at SMU in I think year 4 or so, prestige is up to an A+ now and I think I'm getting looked at for Head Coaching jobs, but I want the Head Coaching job at SMU. Do they ever actually offer you that job if they want you to have it? Do I have to decline the OC extension contract to see it?

I think I know how to move elsewhere, but I'm trying to get it figured out to stay here. I screwed up once and didn't take the extension immediately, looked around at jobs and went back to SMU as the OC, and it screwed up my coaching stability.