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1/32 - OT Derek Sherrod
Grade: A

Analysis: Sherrod was someone who I felt strongly about from the start of the draft process and was thrilled to get in the late 1st round. He has the size, athleticism, arm length, and hands to become a potential franchise LT. However he does need work in the weight room and in his run blocking. Gives us alot of hope that we may have our bookends for the next decade.

Projection: I see him being like a Chad Clifton. A guy who just goes out week in and week out and does his job with little fanfare. I think he's more suited for the left side which would allow Bulaga to progress at RT.


2/64 - WR Randall Cobb
Grade: C+

Analysis: Cobb should immediately fill a void in our return game and allow us to remove one of the games premeir CBs from that duty. He's got the size and speed to become a good slot WR but he's still raw at the position and will take some time to develop. I like his versitility and that may allow us to do some more things with him on offense. I do think his ceiling is higher than the grade I gave him but he's a project at the WR position at the moment.

Projection: Punt and kick returner. Future slot WR. Jennings and Nelson on the outside, Finley at TE, and Cobb in the slot? Aaron Rodgers is a very happy man.

3/96 - RB Alex Green
Grade: C

Analysis: He may come from a spread system but lets be realistic, the Packers love to throw the football and Green's skill set suits that very well. He's got a good size, descent speed, and can catch the ball out of the backfield. Needs to work on his fumbling issues and run with more toughness though.

Projection: Either a 3rd down or committee RB. Has the potential to be a solid player but will need to refine his game a bit.

4/131 - CB Davon House
Grade: B

Analysis: House has the size and speed to develop into a contributing CB on defense. He's experienced and has a nose for the ball. A nice addition to a CB group that has seen an former undrafted free agent in Sam Shields develop into a potential starter.

Projection: Future Nickel or Dime CB. Should provide Pat Lee and Brandon Underwood with some much needed competition from the start.

5/141 - TE D.J. Williams
Grade: C+

Analysis: I was suprised that Williams lasted this year. He's a very good receiver but doesn't really translate into a stater at TE due to his size. He could be a matchup guy for us but Finley already does that and Quarless is still coming along as well. I like the pick but I think we'll need to carve out a role for him.

Projection: H-back type who can line up in the backfield, at TE, and in the slot.

6/179 - OG Caleb Schlauderaff
Grade: C-

Analysis: Schlauderaff has the size to play guard and is very experienced and durable. I like the addition to the interior of the line seeing we now have Sherrod and Bulaga as out potential tackles.

Projection: Depth player. I don't see him staying at guard seeing Sitton is our guy at RG and I feel like thats the only guard position he could play. Ultimately I could see him getting some action at center and be a potential successor to Wells.

6/186 - LB D.J. Smith
Grade: D

Analysis: Smith could end up being a very good special teams player but I felt like it was too early to be making this kind of pick. His size/speed doesn't translate in a potential starter or even a role player. I thought we could've picked up some other guys who could've developed into something else than a special teams player.

Projection: Backup OLB and special teamer.

6/197 - LB Ricky Elmore
Grade: C

Analysis: I wasn't a big fan of the pick at first but I do think he could be a descent player in time. He doesn't have the speed to rush off the edge but he does have the size and strength along with a good motor. I was hoping for a more athletic rusher and a few did go after but Elmore has proven that he can get to the QB.

Projection: Backup OLB or passing down OLB.


7/218 - TE Ryan Taylor
Grade: D+

Analysis: It's clear the Packers want to improve their special teams but they're taking guys at positions of strength to do so. We're stacked at TE and FB so his role would be strickly on special teams.

Projection: Practice squad or backup TE. Hard to see the Packers keeping so many TEs and FBs on the 53 man roster.

7/233 - DE Lawrence Guy
Grade: C+

Analysis: I really like this pick. Guy is very talented yet has underachieved and came out a year early. I think he could really benefit from learning under defensive line coach Mike Trgovac. Great size, good strength, descent arm length, and good athleticism. If he can put it all together I think we'll have a very good player. He's someone to watch in a year or 2.

Projection: Backup DE. Potential role player.



Overall Analysis: I was very happy with our 1st half of the draft. I think Sherrod is going to be an outstanding player for us and getting Cobb and Green will help fill some voids that we had.

House is someone worth watching and he might actually be someone that develops, unlike Lee and Underwood. D.J. Williams should add another dimension to the offense and I think Schlauderaff will give us at the very least some depth and versitility on the offensive line.

I wasn't a flashy draft for us and outside of Sherrod, we might not have another potential starter in the group. We filled some holes and hopefully got better on special teams - which was a huge weakness of ours.

Overall Grade: C+ Outside of Sherrod I think we got a bunch of contributors, some of which could develop into more over time. We didn't have big holes to fill and this draft was picked for the future.
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Wow - you give a C+? What does Ted have to do to get an A...mine will be up shortly...
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1/32 - OT Derek Sherrod
Grade: A

Analysis: Not an essential need, or a day 1 starter, but I love this pick. He's a solid player who's very good in pass-protection and can adequately fill in for either Clifton or Bulaga next year should they get injured. Needs to get nastier in the run-game and develop a better finish, but I think he's a very good pick.

Projection: I see him as being the longterm successor to Clifton. I like this pick because he works well as a compliment to Bulaga so this could be an upgrade long-term at two positions. He's not the next Orlando Pace, Walter Jones or Jonathon Ogden but he'll be a ten-year starter if he plays to his potential.

2/64 - WR Randall Cobb
Grade: A

Analysis: From a need stand-point this may raise a few eyebrows, but considering the value at 64 I love this pick. Cobb was a do-it-all guy at Kentucky and can immediately upgrade the return game. He also has very good hands, so whilst he's undersized compared to James Jones, maybe the horrendous drops see a reduction.

Projection: Punt and kick returner. Impact guy, I see him as being a guy who's a long-term slot receiver but can also do many of the things that Percy Harvin does in Minnesota. Towards the end of last year we saw the odd, trick play from McCarthy - I suspect those might increase with Cobb also coming out of the backfield.

3/96 - RB Alex Green
Grade: C

Analysis: Comes from a pass-happy Hawai'i offense, will be a long-term successor to Brandon Jackson. Appears to have some speed and the strength that the Pack always seems to look for. I'm not high on this pick from a value standpoint though, I thought there was better value in someone like a Kendall Hunter or Dion Lewis later in the draft.

Projection: A third-down guy I think he can provide more in the run-game than some seem to think, but only in the long-term. In the short-term I think this tells us that either Ryan Grant or Brandon Jackson's gonna walk when free-agency comes around. I think Grant may be gone, but the fact that Green's skillset is similar to Jackson's in terms of third-down ability worries me. One other thing though, backs called Green, tend to do well in Green Bay...

4/131 - CB Davon House
Grade: A

Analysis: Great value pick, very good in man-coverage and has the measurables that Joe Whitt will like. Like the fact he made plays in college despite being on a horrible team.

Projection: Immediate competition at dimeback and should probably beat out Lee and Underwood. Ultimately I like his chances to become a starter alongside Williams several years down the road. The Pack play so much nickel that if any one of the top three guys goes down he could be a starter in effect pretty soon anyway.

5/141 - TE D.J. Williams
Grade: C+

Analysis: A 'best player available' pick I'm surprised the Pack found him here. Not high on this from a need standpoint at all. Looks like he could be a good H-back having done it at Arkansas and he can also catch, having been reliable for Ryan Mallett. A bit undersized to be a true mismatch guy a la Finley, but has some speed to at least give an opposing D something to think about.

Projection: H-back type who can line up in the backfield, at TE. Could be number 2 on the depth chart come opening day.

6/179 - OG Caleb Schlauderaff
Grade: C

Analysis: Experienced college player, an extra body to provide depth. A project who may initially be a practice squad guy.

Projection: Depth player. I haven't really seen enough of the guy to give much of a projection, but he'll certainly push McDonald and EDS come training camp.

6/186 - LB D.J. Smith
Grade: C+

Analysis: I initially hated this pick, but it's growing on me. Smith will have an immediate iimpact on ST, he was highly productive at FCS level and is a high character guy. Certainly a reach, I think he may actually project better as an ILB in the 3-4.

Projection: Backup ILB and special teamer. A lack of size will hurt him initially, but his ST ability will make him tough to cut which will give him time to develop. The fact he had outstanding production rather than just good, at a lower level means I'm not so worried about the step up to the NFL.

6/197 - LB Ricky Elmore
Grade: A

Analysis: Not athletic at the Combine, but on game-tape it's another story. Needs to get stronger but his initial burst is very impressive, certainly feel that he helped to raise Brooks Reed's stock this year. Question how much he'll cope with the transition to standing up, but initially for what he's gonna be asked to do, this is not so much of an issue.

Projection: Backup OLB and passing down specialist, will be a good rotation guy with Frank Zombo and Brad Jones.


7/218 - TE Ryan Taylor
Grade: D+

Analysis: It's clear the Packers want to improve their special teams but they're taking guys at positions of strength to do so. We're stacked at TE and FB so his role would be strictly on special teams.

Projection: Practice squad or backup TE. Hard to see the Packers keeping so many TEs and FBs on the 53 man roster - yes this was the initial poster's write, but I have nothing to add here!!!

7/233 - DE Lawrence Guy
Grade: A

Analysis: I love this pick. Guy is very talented but is also extremely raw. Will really benefit from learning under defensive line coach Mike Trgovac who has apparently scouted him very closely. Has all the attributes and potential in the world and has apparently come on leaps and bounds academically and in terms of maturity. A developmental 5-technique, he'll add much needed depth without being expected to be a day 1 starter.

Projection: Backup DE. One to watch down the line, could be this year's CJ Wilson.



Overall Analysis: A very pleasing draft, a lot of depth added. Sherrod not flashy but it's reassuring to see that the organisation recognises that protecting Number 12 is its' number 1 priority over the coming years. It's plausible that all of these picks could see action next year and there's none that are absolute projects in the way that maybe a Dontay Moch or a Colin Kaepernick is. No potential troublemakers and all three phases have gotten better.

Overall Grade: A-
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Derek Sherrod - A, Sherrod is an obvious A, protecting A Rod needs to be the top priority so he can continue to play at a high level and avoid injury.

Randall Cobb - A, Another obvious A to me. Versatile and fearless, Cobb should be a great player in the Packers offense. Should make DDs eventual retirement a little easier on us fans.

Alex Green - B, seems like most fans aren't thrilled about this pick, but I really like it. I think immediately he provides an upgrade over Jackson. Excellent hands, quick feet, and strong/powerful. Might have to get used to the Packers scheme, but will turn out to be a bright spot in this draft.

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Davon House - B, I was a little disappointed when I saw Cortez Allen come of the board immediately ahead of us. Don't know much about House, but I think under Woodson and Williams he can become a good corner.

D.J. Williams - A, Love this guy... his story, his style of play, his character. I like what he brings to the team. Will probably emerge as a leader a few years down the road.
Caleb Schlauderaff - D, Can't say much about this pick... I thought there were better prospects available. Will have to wait and see what type of player he turns out to be.

D.J. Smith - C, I gave this guy a C only because he seems like a high character/motor type of guy and I can't help but like players like that. He was productive at a very good small school. We will have to wait and see what happens with him also.

Ricky Elmore - A, 1 or 2 years with an NFL training program and this guy could be a stud. Thought he was better than a 6th round pick, could possibly be a steal.

Ryan Taylor - B, this is another one people aren't to thrilled about, but we get a guy who was a 4 year STs captain and we all know that is one area we could afford to improve. I think he is also more dynamic than a guy like Korey Hall and could possibly seem some action in short yardage situations.

Lawrence Guy - A, projected as a 3rd or 4th round pick... not really sure why he dropped to the 7th, but depending on what the DE situation becomes this offseason he could see some playing time in different situations. I think he probably pushes Wynn out the door this year, as he is more fit as a 3-4 end.

Overall a productive draft... A- I guess.
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Wow - you give a C+? What does Ted have to do to get an A...mine will be up shortly...
I thought it was an average draft that only netter one surefire starter. We filled holes in the return game and at 3rd down RB which isn't the impact that a starter would net you.

CheeseKnuckles put it a good way, it was a productive draft, and that was just what we needed which is why it was a little above average for me. In the terms of immediate impact it was a C+ draft for me. Alot depends on guys like Cobb, Green, House, and Guy developing.
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I tend to grade drafts a little differently, with the emphasis on whether I think the player will be a starter, a back-up, or even make the active roster, along with if the pick was a value pick, and what the competition will likely be.

1/32 - OT Derek Sherrod

Has a great story, is smart and was a top-performer in the SEC with accompanying national accolades. Given his background and work ethic, he could eventually work himself into receiving the attention Clifton finally received, but it will be dependant on Green Bay’s continued success versus Sherrod’s eye-popping weekly performances. I don’t think his name will be called much if he happens to come in due to injury, which is a good thing. He didn’t give up a sack while playing against SEC competition, so he does have that possibility that he’ll have a chip on his shoulder wanting to show that he should have gone in the early 20’s

Grading rubric: Clifton has had some injury issues, Tauscher very possibly will not be on the team now and Bulaga could switch off to LG if Clifton shows up strong whenever TC starts or he could be a RT fixture. IMO, Bulaga was further along and more highly polished. He is an injury away from being a starter, and will likely be the 6th man on the OL if the line returns healthy from last year.

This is a B+ for me, but only because I don’t think Sherrod will be a starter next year.

2/64 - WR Randall Cobb

I love this pick. Cobb might not be the large prototype WR, but he has so many facets that he’ll bring to the team he could gunning for the Pro Bowl sooner than any other player from the 2010 and 2011 drafts. He does things no one else on the team does. He can throw, rush and of course catch. He also holds on punts and is dynamic in the return game. An SEC game-breaker, he broke the all-time SEC record for combined yardage. this is also a position of potential need given that Jones is making noise about wanting out, Driver is aging and injured and Swain is upgradeable.

Grading rubric: Cobb has a high likelihood to start, though it’ll be on Teams. There are four Special Teams units, and he will likely be on at least three of them, being the primary KR/PR and also holding for field goals and extra points. He’ll also likely have packages drawn up just for him the more MM gets to know him. Goal-line packages, end-arounds, wildcat packages,and even showing five WR and then having Cobb shift to HB and the TE shift to FB. He’ll also be the #3 emergency QB. It’s fun to think of all the things this kid can do, but I’d just be happy having a PR/KR that was the same every game and was in the middle of the league instead of the lame return game that makes it that much harder for the offense to generate points when they have that extra 10-15 yards to go every possession after a lame return.

I’m going with an A-, given he’ll likely not start at WR in front of Nelson and Driver but will possibly be getting starter level snaps given his multiple talents.

3/96 - RB Alex Green
I like Green, not sure I liked him in R3 for value. That being said, TT going with a player that should have a relatively seamless transition to what the Packers do conceptually with the ball. If Green had been on the team for the SB, he’d probably had 8 receptions and maybe a TD or two given his ability to catch the ball. He’s definitely more accomplished and polished than Starks was coming out of college. Starks was able to show up big at the end of the season and in the playoffs with his fresh legs, but he was still raw. His playoff performance might be a stepping stone for him to take the starting position from Grant if he’s not 100% of what he was, which is the only way I see anyone but Grant starting next year. It will liekly not be Green unless there are more injury woes.

Grading rubric: For me, RB was not a position of great need, given how the team plays and with the exception of Ingram, not sure there was anyone who’d be breaking past Grant and the team has good role-players. Green could be pushing Brandon Jackson out the door, though I thought Jackson fulfilled his role on the team solidly and was great in pass protection and he makes a good 3rd down back. That is the role Green seems to have before him, though his work in Butte was between the tackles and he did a lot of inside running in the spread offense at Hawaii, so maybe he’ll be an upgrade over Jackson. I’d have preferred Sam Acho here, but that’s just me.

This is a “C” for me as Green not guaranteed a spot on the active roster unless TT cuts Brandon Jackson, given the pecking order of Grant, Starks and Jackson right now, especially if Grant is healthy, and if he’s 100% this is a C- for me.

4/131 - CB Davon House

This is a solid value pick at a position of need that has some question marks over it. I think House will be the best DB from round 4, and I only liked Curtis Brown more than House from Round 3. House has really good triangle numbers and was productive with good hands for picks on a bad team that you’d think the opponent would stay away from him.

Grading rubric: Woodson broke his shoulder, and I don’t think upper body bone injuries ever make a player better. Given the safeties are coming back from injury, along with some CBs that have question marks, Davon could find himself the #3 CB at the end of TC if Woodson isn’t back fully or he moves over to Safety to shore things up next to Collins if Burnett doesn’t come back from injury. If the players come back healthy, I project House to be the #4 CB behind Shields. Should be a solid addition to coverage teams also and might be a gunner, given his size and speed.

The value, need and amount the Packers play coverage packages makes this an B+ for me, again dinged only due to House not likely to start and he might only be the dime back for 2011.

5/141 - TE D.J. Williams

DJ presents an issue, as I love him as a player. Mackey Award winner as the best TE and you pick him up in R5? Nice. Not a position of need, IMHO, unless there’s something injury wise that hasn’t been disclosed regarding Finley. This kid has a great story and he helped make Mallet a prospect, not the other way around. Again in a conference with great competition.

Grading rubric: I don’t know if DJ will make an impact at TE. He’s not the receiver that Finley is. Quarless has experience in the system and didn’t embarrass himself on the biggest stage and Crabtree is the best blocker of the group. WIll they keep four TEs again? Will Crabtree be put out as they go with three very talented receiving TEs? I think they might, though DJ will be a TE in name only as he transitions to H-Back/fullback in the Packers system. With three fullbacks, it depends on who stays and who goes to see what happens with DJ. If TT didn’t hate smurfs and if Green weren’t taken already, Jacquizz Rodgers would have been an interesting pick for his DeSean Jackson-esque explosiveness.

This is a C+ for me, with it not being lower given the quality of the player but the questions surrounding playing time dragging down his grade.

On a side note, pick #163 could have been Quan Sturdivant. Grrr...

6/179 - OG Caleb Schlauderaff

Always nice to have O-line depth. Wish TT would have given the line this much attention from the beginning instead of letting the guard situation be one of perennial weakness. Sitton is a future Pro-Bowler. LG does not have anyone close to a Pro-Bowler, and I don’t think Caleb will break through and become the next Sitton. Keith Williams might be the next Sitton, however and he was available here. TT sometimes seems to want to show off his scouting acumen and grabs players from smaller conferences that don’t have much name recognition. Anyways, Caleb is smart and was a four year starter at LG, so he should be capable if needed to fill in and maybe he’ll show enough to push that spot, whether it’s Bulaga or College or one of the roster fillers on the line.

Grading rubric: OL might not be a need position per se, but LG was the weakest spot on the line last year, even with a rookie starting at RT. TT picks a four year LG starter from a team that ran some of the stuff the Packers run. That being said, he doesn’t have the versatility to play the other line positions like some of the guys currently on the roster and seems to be an OG only. Caleb’s 23 and likely to be a bit more mature than a 20 year player. There weren’t many better alternatives and Caleb very likely to make the team if he shows at least decently in camp.

This is a C+ for me, as I don’t think Caleb will be a starter and he might not even be on the active roster unless there are injuries or a couple returning players don’t return, as I do think he’ll make the roster, which is good for a 6th rounder, even if he’s not active.

6/186 - LB D.J. Smith

The second DJ is not the player the first one is, but he’s physically not that far off from where Bishop was as a rookie. He’s a couple inches shorter, but he’s the same weight and he runs the same speed that Desmond does. Desmond made the plays on the field and showed exactly why game tape is superior to Combine tape. Smith has 525 tackles. That’s a lot of tackles and he’s been durable. With the ILB conflict, I can see DJ Smith being Bishop’s back-up and also being a top special teams tackler if Barnett moves on, which seems to be the consensus opinion. I’d love to have all the Packers’ four ILBs stick with the team for this upcoming year, though!

Grading rubric: Totally not a position of need, but then again Barnett might be moving on and if TT didn’t like the performance of the back-up ILBs last year, drafting for decent depth and special teams in the 6th round is a good plan. I think DJ will be a solid special teamer and I don’t believe Barnett will be back.

I give this a B-, as I think Smith will be a back-up at ILB and on Teams, but there’s the possibility that he won’t even make the team if the current players come back.

6/197 - LB Ricky Elmore

I’ve been watching Ricky Elmore for a number of years. He does not time as fast as Brooks Reed, but it seemed over the past couple of years that he played as fast as Brooks Reed. He’s tall, lead the PAC-10 in sacks for two years running and played with intensity and passion. He hasn’t played teams in a while given his starting status, but he started off as a solid special teamer. Heck, he blocked 11 kicks in 2005 in HS.

Grading rubric: Depending on what you think of Brad Jones (I’m a fan, though nervous about his injury), Frank Zombo (also a fan), Erik Walden (what Packers fan isn’t a fan given what he did to Chicago?) and Brady Poppinga (it’s been fun, time to go), you might or might not think Elmore will be on the team, and either starting or will be on the PS. Because I’ve seen him for a couple of years, I think Ricky will make the team and be the #4 OLB, eventually working his way up to starting with Kevin Greene coaching him up. I like the whole group, but given the roster, likely only four will make it. It’s going to be some tough cuts this year and some good Packers players are going to be playing for and probably starting on other teams. Hopefully they won’t be NFC North teams...

Solid value at a position with some questions marks and my belief that he’ll be solid on teams, along with evolving into a solid rush threat opposite Matthews, gives this a B+.


7/218 - TE Ryan Taylor

The good about Ryan Taylor is that UNC Football has been around for about 120 years and he set the season receiving record for a TE this past year. He’s also had experience as an LB (like Havner light) and he was the Special Teams captain the past two years and was the best special teamer all four years while at UNC. The Packers web-site also lists him as a TE/FB. That’s good for him as I don’t see how he can make the roster at TE. It’ll be tough for DJ Williams to get in front of Quarless, and if McCarthy loves Crabtree’s blocking, that’ll be another hurdle. Last year I’d much rather have had Rayn Taylor than Donald Lee.

Grading rubric: I don’t see Taylor leaping over DJ Williams, much less anyone currently on the team at TE. Given that Quinn Johnson has limited special teams value and was inactive for the Super Bowl, along with Hall and Kuhn being UFA, there is opportunity at FB to make the team. Heck, if Hall and Kuhn take bigger paychecks elsewhere, both DJ Williams and Ryan Taylor could make the team and even be active on game day. I don’t thin that will happen, as I see Kuhn being brought back. I see the practice squad or another team in Taylor’s future, which is sad as he seems like the type of baller you want on your club.

Given the round he was taken in, this gets a C.

7/233 - DE Lawrence Guy

Ug. I don’t like Sun Devils as a matter of principle, but Lawrence Guy should have gone no later than R4. He has some hustle to him, he’s disruptive. He’s young and athletic, is a decent interior pass-rusher and makes plays behind the line of scrimmage. Not sure why he came out this year, but I’d have wanted to leave ASU as soon as possible, also... ;P

Grading rubric: There are question marks at DE, with Jenkins likely gone and Jolly possibly not playing in the NFL again and Harrell needing to be finally flushed away. Guy is bigger than both CJ Wilson and Jarius Wynn, though they do have the experience and showed well at opportune times. He could be a run-stopper on early downs and an interior pass rusher next to Raji for the two DL set. I really like this pick, though it’ll be fun to see two bitter rivals like Elmore and Guy now playing next to one another...

This is a solid A for me, as it is a position with question marks, Guy was a good value and he could be starting this year.

Overall Grade: Adding up all the grades and dividing by ten, this draft gets a B-.
Not too many starters, though I think Guy will surprise. Sherrod an eventual starter and Cobb will be special, even if not called a “starter.” This draft more about roster depth and Special Teams. The competition at LB and TE should just be brutal whenever TC commences.
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1/32 - OT Derek Sherrod
Grade: A+

Analysis: Sherrod was one of my favorite tackle prospects from this 2011 class and it was a no-brainer to take him at the bottom of round one. A player that excelled in the SEC, he moves very well for an individual of his size and does a great job of getting to the second level in the running game. Sherrod should be the long term answer at LT, whether he sees time at other positions while Clifton is still around reamins to be seen.

2/64 - WR Randall Cobb
Grade: A+

Analysis: Prior to the draft I wanted Cobb to be our first round pick so it goes without saying that I couldn't be more excited about this selection at the bottom of round two. He's got great potential as a slot wide receiver and a threat on special teams. Last year I said that James Starks was my most liked pick ever made by TT but Cobb has taken the top spot now. A future stud!

3/96 - RB Alex Green
Grade: B+

Analysis: A breakout back in 2010 at Hawaii, Green reminds alot of a Steven Jackson type back...he's a physical, well-built back who does a great job as a receiving threat and on 3rd downs...I loved this pick as well and this selection allows the team to move on from Ryan Grant after 2011-12.

4/131 - CB Davon House
Grade: A

Analysis: Make this 4/4 in the draft so far that I love...House, assuming he can stay healthy through camp, should be able to compete for the dime corner spot and develop of the next two or three years...a guy that has starter potential, in my opinion, and should be a solid fit for the Capers defense

5/141 - TE D.J. Williams
Grade: A

Analysis: The Mackey Award winner didn't just fall into the award without ability and game but for some reason he fell this far in the draft...another home run selection by Ted Thomspon, Williams is an ideal fit for the Packers offense and should be able to find his way onto the field in no time...Cobb, Green, and Williams gives one of the league's most dangerous offenses even more firepower

6/179 - OG Caleb Schlauderaff
Grade: B

Analysis: The highly successful Utes' offense was led upfront by Caleb so it gives me hope that this late round pick works out...there's plenty of question marks as to who will win the left guard spot, of which I don't think Schlauderaff will compete, but he should be able to work his way onto the roster once all the cuts are made

6/186 - LB D.J. Smith
Grade: D

Analysis: Highly productive at the FCS level but he is far too undersized to really make much of an impact at the NFL level outside of special teams

6/197 - LB Ricky Elmore
Grade: C

Analysis: I scratch my head with selection...Elmore doesn't have the ability to stand up in a 3-4 defense and seem like a sure misfit...he could prove me wrong but I see him being cut at some point during the pre-season

7/218 - TE Ryan Taylor
Grade: D+

Analysis: Not a highly productive player at UNC and there's plenty of uncertainty as to where he'll fit but I'm guessing he'll have a chance to make his way on a special teams unit and as a 7th round pick, one can't be too upset with the pick

7/233 - DE Lawrence Guy
Grade: B-

Analysis: Guy is a good fit for the 3-4 defense and was wonderful value towards the end of the draft so that's why the grade is so high...with the departure of Cullen Jenkins, the chance is there for playing time...wouldn't surprise me in any direction that Guy's game goes
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General manager Ted Thompson is one of the more astute talent-evaluators in the NFL and strong, unspectacular drafts such as this one show precisely why.

Recognizing the unique talent they have in Super Bowl MVP Aaron Rodgers, the Packers protected him up front with versatile offensive tackle Derek Sherrod in the first round and a variety of dynamic pass-catchers throughout the rest of the draft.

Kentucky's Randall Cobb was the most versatile weapon in the draft.

Hawaii running back Alex Green is a powerful runner with underrated speed and hands.

Arkansas tight end D.J. Williams in the fifth round could prove a steal, as what he lacks in size (6-2, 245) he makes up for in reliable hands and surprising toughness as a blocker.

Add in developmental prospects at cornerback (Davon House), pass rusher (Ricky Elmore) and defensive end (Lawrence Guy) on the third day of the draft and the Packers continue to retool the most talented roster in the league.
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Derek Sherrod - A

Not a flashy pick or not even a day one starter but he is a great kid and when Clifton retires he will sep in and protect Rodgers for years.

Randall Cobb - A+

My favorite pick of the draft. Love his versatility, love his ability to return punts and kicks. Gives the best WR corps another weapon for A-Rod to throw to. This is also antoher guy with a perfect character.

Alex Green - C

I like the idea of adding a 3rd back to complement Starks an Grant and Grant is also in the last year of his contract. A little dissapointed after seeing who was left on the board but still like the pick. Another igh character guy.

Davon House - B+

Really like this pick. Was a bit of a steal in the last pick of the 4th round. Will probably step in front of Bush and Underwood as the 4th cornerback, and will become the 3rd when Woodso retires.

DJ Williams - C

Like the idea of giving A-Rod some more weapons but dont really see him playing much. Especially as we have two young good TEs in Finley and Quarless. Would of prefered someone else but im ok with the pick.

Caleb Schlauderaff - C

Dont know a lot abou this guy. I like that we added a guard though. From what i have read dont think he will ever be a starter but wil probably sit behind whoever plays LG next season.

DJ Smith - D

Like his production in college but think the only reason TT drafted him was for special teams. And dont like wasting 5th round draft picks on special team players. Will probaly never be more then the 4th ILB on the team.

Ricky Elmore - B

Is a good pass rusher and is a good guy. I am positive that with some good coaching from Kevin Greene he will become at least a situational pass rusher. Got over 20 sacks the last 2 years so was productive in college.

Ryan Taylor - B

This was obviously a special teams pick. But i dont mind when he has won special team players 3 times in the last 3 years and he thinks special teams is 1/3 of the game. Never really ever gonna play TE, he only got catches in college because of injuries to NC's other TE's

Lawrence Guy - B

After seeing what last years 7th pick CJ Wilson did last year i am confident that Guy can contribute staright away. When Pickett and Green leave he will probably at most be a rotational guy (pardon the pun) with Neal and Wilson.

Overall - B+
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The biggest thing I noticed about this draft is that TT took all high character guys who were leaders or captains of their respective teams. IMO just about everyone of these guys could be counted on at some point of their rookie season to step up and make an impact. The reason I think these players can do that is because of their character and leadership abilities.

After a few games this season the team cheer was "family", not a single one of these guys are going to come in and jeopradize that unity we have in the locker room. Thats why I found this draft to be productive and overall a good/great draft.
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The biggest thing I noticed about this draft is that TT took all high character guys who were leaders or captains of their respective teams. IMO just about everyone of these guys could be counted on at some point of their rookie season to step up and make an impact. The reason I think these players can do that is because of their character and leadership abilities.

After a few games this season the team cheer was "family", not a single one of these guys are going to come in and jeopradize that unity we have in the locker room. Thats why I found this draft to be productive and overall a good/great draft.
Yeah that was what i liked about this draft. The last thing you want when you just won the superbowl is cocky guys coming in a disrupting the locker room. Over the last year we built this mentality to overcome adversity and all these guys will just add to the positive atmosphere in the locker room.
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Ricky Elmore vs Frank Zombo.
Who wins in the end? They seem similar to me.
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Who wins in the end? They seem similar to me.
I think they will release Brady Poppinga. Move Zombo to LOLB behind Clay and have Walden and Jones fight it out for ROLB.

Maybe in a few years after some good coaching from Kevin Greene Elmore (apart from Clay III) will the best out of the lot. But for this season i dont see him playing much

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Who wins in the end? They seem similar to me.
Zombo is proven, we know what we have in him. Doesn't hurt to add more bodies into the mix though.
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Poppinga is making a little more than he deserves but he's versitilt and fill in at either LB position and is a good special teamer. Thats why I have him returning.
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Zombo is proven, we know what we have in him. Doesn't hurt to add more bodies into the mix though.
Who do you think is he best out of Walden, Zombo, Jones and Elmore? IMO Walden was the best in the limited games he played. If Elmore comes on in a few years we might as well release Jones becaue i think he is the worst of the other OLBs
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Who do you think is he best out of Walden, Zombo, Jones and Elmore? IMO Walden was the best in the limited games he played. If Elmore comes on in a few years we might as well release Jones becaue i think he is the worst of the other OLBs
I would actually say Jones is the most complete out of that bunch and he basically played a very simular role at Colorado. Zombo is right behind him though. Walden struggles against the run but is serviceable and Elmore, well training camp will help determine if his lack of speed is or isn't an issue.
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I would actually say Jones is the most complete out of that bunch and he basically played a very simular role at Colorado. Zombo is right behind him though. Walden struggles against the run but is serviceable and Elmore, well training camp will help determine if his lack of speed is or isn't an issue.
Kevin Greene didnt think Elmores lack of speed is an issue.
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I hope not. He has the size and strength but you never know how the transition from DE to OLB will go. Zombo ran a 10th of a second faster and he had some success so its not a death blow to his career.
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I hope not. He has the size and strength but you never know how the transition from DE to OLB will go. Zombo ran a 10th of a second faster and he had some success so its not a death blow to his career.
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Greene likes him. So do I.
But the key is this:
Can Elmore get his hair to grow past his shoulders like Matthews and Greene!
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I thought you guys might want to see a video that we put together at NMSU.

Thanks for posting the video! Already a fan!
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I thought you guys might want to see a video that we put together at NMSU.
So have you guys coined the nickname Davon "take it to da" House yet?
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