2012 Draft Thread - Page 5

General Zod · 01-12-2012, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by wogitalia

DT - Ayodele - I don't mind him. Think we could do with a young guy with some serious burst and potential to work behind these two though rather than the journeyman types.

I know DT isnt our highest priority this offseason, but Ayodele was mostly pretty terrible.

eltwentyone · 01-12-2012, 01:08 PM

WTF goin on we got no defensive coordinater,

Heisman · 01-13-2012, 01:53 PM

Well technically we are still rockin' Fred Pagac as D coordinator ;)

VikesWookie · 01-14-2012, 02:40 AM

We don't have the DB's to run Pagac's system... we don't have the backs to run anyone's system too effectively imo...

djp · 01-16-2012, 06:32 PM

I've just posted a new blog on the Vikings/#3 situation on my blog.. feel free to comment here to respond, or just tell me to shut the hell up. Either way's fine.

http://landof10klosses.wordpress.com...th-the-3-pick/

The_Dude · 01-16-2012, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by djp

I've just posted a new blog on the Vikings/#3 situation on my blog.. feel free to comment here to respond, or just tell me to shut the hell up. Either way's fine.

http://landof10klosses.wordpress.com...th-the-3-pick/

Isn't Kalil a white guy?

Your pic:

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images...jpg?1326600904
Kalil:

djp · 01-16-2012, 08:14 PM

haha dang, that was the first picture that came up when I googled his name. thanks

The_Dude · 01-16-2012, 08:24 PM

no prob. the bleacher report had it as their pic, too.

not to be nit-picky, but it was the first thing that i noticed.

djp · 01-17-2012, 11:57 AM

Browns want RG3 and pick #4. Time to play the leverage game...

Vikings4ever · 01-17-2012, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by djp

Browns want RG3 and pick #4. Time to play the leverage game...

Forcing the Browns to trade up a pick would be my ideal draft day. If we could get a second this year (or, even better, a 1st next year), and still get Kalil or Claiborne, I'd be in heaven.

VikesWookie · 01-18-2012, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by djp

I've just posted a new blog on the Vikings/#3 situation on my blog.. feel free to comment here to respond, or just tell me to shut the hell up. Either way's fine.

http://landof10klosses.wordpress.com...th-the-3-pick/

i'm just wondering how you came up with the odds percentages...

The_Dude · 01-18-2012, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Vikings4ever

Forcing the Browns to trade up a pick would be my ideal draft day. If we could get a second this year (or, even better, a 1st next year), and still get Kalil or Claiborne, I'd be in heaven.

Or even having the Browns trade up to #2/Rams benefits us because that makes it more likely to have Kalil available for us at #3.

General Zod · 01-25-2012, 08:10 AM

What do you all think of Riley Reiff? There are a handful of scouts that actually have him rated ahead of Matt Kalil.

Crazy_Chris · 01-25-2012, 02:37 PM

For right now I'm not buying that Reiff belongs in the same league as Kalil as a prospect. However right now I actually prefer Reiff and a couple of extra draft choices from the Redskins or Browns. Hopefully the Rams don't take the trade down option.

VikesWookie · 01-25-2012, 04:18 PM

This 1st round pick should be a consensus top-notch prospect, hopefully more than a handful of opinions. It's early tho... it's hard to really guess who's going where til the process runs its course a bit more.

General Zod · 01-26-2012, 05:04 PM

Looks like Spielman is open to trading down in this draft..

http://blogs.nfl.com/2012/01/25/viki...overall-pick/?

Ozzy · 01-26-2012, 10:44 PM

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General Zod Looks like Spielman is open to trading down in this draft..

That would be the ideal I think...

Not sure anyone wants the #3 pick that badly though unless they like Griffin, but if they do and we get two later 1st round picks or a few more 2nd rounders they could easily pull off getting...

These prospects all being mid to late 1st rounders to early to late 2nd rounders. And if we trade the top pick and move down getting more picks it would be a great move really and one could get two or three of these players potentially.

David DeCastro OG Stanford 1st round
Jonathan Martin OT Stanford 1st round
Michael Floyd WR Notre Dame 1st round
Markelle Martin FS Oklahoma State late 1st early 2nd
Tramain Thomas FS Arkansas early 2nd
Leonard Johnson CB Iowa State late 1st early 2nd
Kelechi Osemele OT Iowa State late 1st early 2nd
Alfonzo Dennard CB Nebraska late 1st early 2nd
Jerel Worthy DT Michigan State late 1st early 2nd
Devin Still DT Penn State late 1st early 2nd
Brandon Washington OG Miami FL late 1st early 2nd
Winston Guy SS Kentucky early to late 2nd
Mark Barron SS Alabama late 1st early 2nd
Cordy Glenn OG Georgia early to late 2nd
Mike Harris CB FSU late 2nd
Brandon Taylor SS LSU late 2nd

Say they trade down and get more picks, then get David DeCastro late 1st round along with Leonard Johnson in the late 1st round, then get Jerel Worthy in the early 2nd round and Tramain Thomas in the 2nd as well. Much less maybe getting Alshon Jeffery if he slides or Mohamed Sanu in the 2nd over Tramain Thomas, even better. Would be pretty sweet I would say and gives them tons of top notch options.

Hard to pass on Kalil or Claiborne though....

Shame we signed Sullivan to such a big deal, I hate Wisconsin but Peter Konz is a stud center and I would love to have him.

the_legend_killer · 01-27-2012, 12:02 AM

If Kalil's gone, I wouldn't be too opposed to trading down, as long as it's not too far.

jimmylishis · 02-02-2012, 01:45 AM

I absolutely love Tramain Thomas, he's one of my favorite prospects in this draft but there's no way he's going in the 2nd round seeing as how he didn't get invited to the senior bowl or the initial combine list

princefielder28 · 02-03-2012, 04:08 PM

Any chance the Vikings would take RGIII with the 3rd pick?

Depending on how the Vikings front office will grade out on RGIII, I would say there's a strong likelihood that they would evaluate him as a QB who would give a franchise a better shot at being competitive and ultimately a Super Bowl contender than Christian Ponder. They would take a hit in the short term on the investment they made in Ponder but in the long run the potential to win with RGIII has to be enticing. And then it comes to what the team could get in return for Ponder. With an unclear 3rd QB in the class, you'd have to believe that the year of experience displayed by Ponder is more attractive to teams in need of a quarterback than someone like Ryan Tannehill or Nick Foles or Brock Osweiler; possibly equating to a high 2nd round pick or even more.

I know this hasn't been discussed too much as a possibility but in a quarterback driven league Minnesota has a chance to take a guy who trumps the incumbent signal caller and appears to be someone who would give the team a better chance to get a ring. Thoughts?

BuckNaked · 02-03-2012, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by princefielder28

Any chance the Vikings would take RGIII with the 3rd pick?

Depending on how the Vikings front office will grade out on RGIII, I would say there's a strong likelihood that they would evaluate him as a QB who would give a franchise a better shot at being competitive and ultimately a Super Bowl contender than Christian Ponder. They would take a hit in the short term on the investment they made in Ponder but in the long run the potential to win with RGIII has to be enticing. And then it comes to what the team could get in return for Ponder. With an unclear 3rd QB in the class, you'd have to believe that the year of experience displayed by Ponder is more attractive to teams in need of a quarterback than someone like Ryan Tannehill or Nick Foles or Brock Osweiler; possibly equating to a high 2nd round pick or even more.

I know this hasn't been discussed too much as a possibility but in a quarterback driven league Minnesota has a chance to take a guy who trumps the incumbent signal caller and appears to be someone who would give the team a better chance to get a ring. Thoughts?

If we could get a first, I'd be intrigued.

marshallb · 02-03-2012, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by princefielder28

Any chance the Vikings would take RGIII with the 3rd pick?

Depending on how the Vikings front office will grade out on RGIII, I would say there's a strong likelihood that they would evaluate him as a QB who would give a franchise a better shot at being competitive and ultimately a Super Bowl contender than Christian Ponder. They would take a hit in the short term on the investment they made in Ponder but in the long run the potential to win with RGIII has to be enticing. And then it comes to what the team could get in return for Ponder. With an unclear 3rd QB in the class, you'd have to believe that the year of experience displayed by Ponder is more attractive to teams in need of a quarterback than someone like Ryan Tannehill or Nick Foles or Brock Osweiler; possibly equating to a high 2nd round pick or even more.

I know this hasn't been discussed too much as a possibility but in a quarterback driven league Minnesota has a chance to take a guy who trumps the incumbent signal caller and appears to be someone who would give the team a better chance to get a ring. Thoughts?

There's no chance at all that we take any QB, even if we were to get a good pick offered for Ponder, it's not gonna happen. Pelissero had this to say earlier this offseason in a tweet:

Tom Pelissero
@TomPelissero

@ALLDAYPURP757 They're not drafting a QB.

That was in response to this:
@ALLDAYPURP757
@TomPelissero I'm not going to name any names...... *cough* RG3... But how safe is Ponder as our starting QB??? At least DM me or sumthin...

prock · 02-04-2012, 07:20 PM

We won't draft a QB before the 5th. Unless we get offered like a top 15 pick for Ponder I can't see it being a possibility.

princefielder28 · 02-05-2012, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by prock

We won't draft a QB before the 5th. Unless we get offered like a top 15 pick for Ponder I can't see it being a possibility.

I know the likelihood is pretty much zero for it to happen but put yourself in management's shoes once, would you give selecting Griffin a thought? And I'll add to it, what has Ponder shown to make you think that he's worth the long term investment?

Crazy_Chris · 02-07-2012, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by princefielder28

I know the likelihood is pretty much zero for it to happen but put yourself in management's shoes once, would you give selecting Griffin a thought? And I'll add to it, what has Ponder shown to make you think that he's worth the long term investment?

I wouldn't think about RG3, but I think he's a bit overated at this point in the process. I like Ponder, I think he has a generally underated QB skill set. While he regressed and was generally inconsistent, he did show flashes and there is stuff to build upon. Particularly how good he was in the redzone 21-27 77.8% 8 tds 1 int. Another example he was pure money on 3rd down before he regressed.