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Old 04-27-2012, 08:49 PM    (permalink
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now, you can say his name. lol.
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If we end up with a Massie, Osemele, or Schwartz pick next, I won't even care what the Jets do with the rest of their picks !!!
The browns took Schwartz earlier :( but Massie or Osemele would hae me ecstatic.
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No doubt, Derza, I hear'ya. Coples and Hill's potential is a lot to get excited about though. Two huge needs, and neither pick has us saying "WTF did the Jets do".

If we end up with a Massie, Osemele, or Schwartz pick next, I won't even care what the Jets do with the rest of their picks !!!
Schwartz is gone but I forgot about Osemele. He or Massie would be awesome too, as would Iloka.
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Dammit Curry and Osemele just went back to back! That hurt
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Couldn't really expect either of those guys to fall that far. Just 14 more picks away, it'll be interesting to see who falls. Based on who's around I'm expecting RT or S, maybe RB or G. Not sure who they'd go for at OLB so that'd surprise me.
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Bye bye Bart Scott?
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Davis is a nice pick but I thought Jets would go after someone from big school for that spot. Nigel Bradham.
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Bye bye Bart Scott?

I don't think so but you never know.
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passed on Massie and Iloka... wow.
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I'm guessing he's going to play ILB? But I have no idea. I like the scouting report on him though. I will have to do some investigative work...

I will say, however, that I love the way they're approaching the draft. They really meant it when they said they would do BPA. Glad we haven't taken a Safety.
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I would've liked to see Massie or Iloka there. Either could've stepped in right away and started in all likelihood, guess they don't want to admit the Ducasse mistake/didn't really like either player. Would've loved Iloka to try to match up with TE's too.
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It seems Jets will stick with UDFA for S jobs.
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I would've liked to see Massie or Iloka there. Either could've stepped in right away and started in all likelihood, guess they don't want to admit the Ducasse mistake/didn't really like either player. Would've loved Iloka to try to match up with TE's too.
Texans, Skins and Chiefs all passed on Massie, I've got a feeling there's something we don't know about that's making him drop. It's interesting, because I was for sure Massie or Lewis would have been the choice.
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Texans, Skins and Chiefs all passed on Massie, I've got a feeling there's something we don't know about that's making him drop. It's interesting, because I was for sure Massie or Lewis would have been the choice.
Yeah that's likely because he's dropping like a lead balloon, at the time though it seemed like it would've been a great pick. And you never know how it works out.

It'll be interesting to see how the 5 picks tomorrow get used. Could see OLB, OL depth, RB, CB, S, and specialist getting a look. Or anything else really, but I think at least a few of those should get a look.
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Oh man. Did you guys see those Davis highlights they just showed? He looks phenomenal.
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My bad on missing the Schwartz pick, I blame the Yuengling! Surprised they passed on Massie, but the Davis pick looks like a good one. Not sure that he'll replace Scott this season, but he will be groomed to do so in the near future. Notes have him as being quick, great inside player, good against the run, but a little lost when dropping back into coverage. Mocks had him anywhere from the 2nd round to the 7th. Jets must have liked what they saw.

As for Massie, he keeps falling. Too bad we don't have any ammo to move up at this point.
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Demario Davis, LB, Arkansas State

Height: 6’2″
Weight: 235
40 Time: 4.53
Grade: 6.9 (Grading Scale)

Arms: 32″ Hands: 9″

Vertical: 38.5″ Broad: 10’4″ 3 Cone: 7.19 Short Shuttle: 4.28 Bench: 32

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Strengths: Demario Davis is a physical specimen – When watching him on film two words come to mind: explosive and powerful – He is one of the fastest linebackers in this draft class (4.53) and is THE strongest, producing 32 reps on the bench press – Davis can truly play a sideline to sideline type game – Tracks down the ball carrier all over the field, has great closing speed – When he gets to the ball he finishes with power – Has the ability to play any linebacker position, from 4-3 ILB, to OLB and could also be utilized as an edge rusher in a 3-4 – One of the most powerful tacklers in the draft, punishes the ball carrier with each tackle, wraps up and drives into the ground – Probably the most explosive first step of any LB, can get to top speed quickly – Keeps his pad level low, showcasing natural bend in his hips and knees – Takes on blockers at point of attack, can shed with his hands or with natural power – Fluid athlete, can move laterally, change direction easily and turn and run – Played in the 4-2-5, allowed to run free and make plays – Plays with an intensity and passion on each play, I think he could be at his best when he’s blitzing, just a relentless player – Plays instinctive, once he sees the play develop, it’s like he’s shot out of a cannon – His athletic ability allows him to be pretty solid in coverage, can run with backs out of the backfield and get a chip on the TE at LOS – Can also cover a WR out of the slot – Davis is one of the hardest workers in the draft and a great kid – Contributed on all special teams throughout his career – Has already graduated college and was on the academic honor roll throughout his time at Arkansas State.

Weaknesses: One of the biggest questions with Davis is where he is going to play at the next level – He was given a lot of freedom to make plays, so he will be reigned in a little bit in the pros – Technique can be improved, but has gotten better – Man coverage ability can always improve, as well as instincts while in zone coverage – Small school label, so not as well known as other players

Overall, Davis is one of the most explosive and well rounded defensive players in this year’s draft. He comes from a smaller school, where not many people saw him play. Davis is always around the ball and plays with such power and intensity that there is no doubt in my mind he will make in in the NFL. He will be a fit with just about every team in the league regardless of the type of defense they run. Look for Davis to come off the board in round three and looking back on it in five years that could be the steal of the draft.
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What I see personally is that he's fairly raw in technique, and I also heard that he's 23 so he's a bit older. However, he's probably the fastest linebacker I've seen of any of the prospects. He, like our other two picks, seem like the perfect balls of clay for our coaches to mold.
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After watching him he certainly looks like he's at his best moving forward which fits the attacking style of defense. Very fast, looked like he can get blocked and washed out a bit against the run though. Didn't get to see too much of him in coverage.

He'll certainly play specials right off the bat, and he's got to be the replacement for Bart Scott probably starting next year. This draft was certainly about adding speed on both sides of the ball. Seems like an interesting option to cover RB's out of the backfield, FWIW.

My main question for now in terms of fit is, the plan is ultimately for him to play inside next to Harris. Right now Scott is kind of the linebacker who blows up blocks and allows Harris to make plays. I don't see Davis doing that, and I don't see the point of having Harris do it either although I think he certainly could. Just hopeful that the DL can keep blocks off those guys?
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Seems like a vocal team leader, too. We need one of those on defense!
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For now, Davis will be there for coverage asset and blitz. He wont be replacing Scott as ILB this instant. In near future, Harris replaces Scott and Davis replaces Harris for base 3-4 defense.


It is amazing how S Iloka, WR Jones and OT Massie remain available after 3rd round. Do we have a regret for acquiring Tebow? lol.
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So since only one of our remaining picks isn't protected, I'm pretty sure we'll be using all 5 this time around. As long as they're decent, that could mean some pretty good depth. I would like at least two OL drafted. Any specific players you guys want? Kind of hard to project since we have to wait so long...
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I definitely wish that they still had a 4th round pick, but oh well. I'm with you on acquiring some OL help TTGS, although I'm not sure they will. Seems like they really like Howard the tackle and Schlauderaff at guard. Plus Ducasse is on the roster, so I'd like to see a tackle drafted but not sure they will. A swing RT/G potential guy and somebody who can play center would be nice. They just signed O'Dowd who came out of USC recently but pretty sure he's got serious injury issues. So two OL's would be good, not sure they'll do it but I'd definitely be down.

I'd really like to see a fast corner, a developmental OLB prospect, and a TE who can block get looks too. Obviously a safety would be good as well. Another hope is that they don't burn a pick on a friends and family guy this year. If they have to pass on anything I guess OLB would be best since depth is at least good there, but corner, TE, and safety are kind of weak.
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Ryan liked Mauga, Berning, Dixon and Pitouita but Jets drafted Wilkerson, Coples and Davis that high.


5 unmade picks should be:

Omar Bolden

Tim Fugger, please.

fast CB that can play nickel/dime coverage.

Lucas Nix or similar one.

Jeff Adams or better.


Another options for extra juicy.

RS Chris Rainey.
WR Danny Coale.
OLB Ronnell Lewis.
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Bolden was gone few spots earlier. Massie was taken in 4 spots after Jets' former 4th round pick. darn.
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If only for the name and the fact that you keep tossing him out Yoto, I really hope we draft Fugger now.

Lots of guys coming off the board which is expected. I'm expecting small school guys and our RB coach's son.
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