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Old 06-05-2013, 01:27 PM    (permalink
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Judging by the name of the episode, the end of the season will contain all the slaves shouting mother at Dany
I'm hoping the last scene we see this ep is an appearance by Coldhands
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I'm hoping the last scene we see this ep is an appearance by Coldhands
That would be cool.

An appearance by Lady Stoneheart would be mind-blowing to the non-readers as well.
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I, too, have been hoping for a Coldhands appearance.
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Also, I'm pretty sure Stannis didn't arrive at the Wall until FfC, I might be wrong.
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This will probably only be 1 scene in the last episode of season 4. I think the only other way we see any Catelyn next season is if we see Arya's dream as Nymeria dragging her out of the river, and its possible that they show that Thoros and tBwB find her, but that would depend on them starting to actually recognize Arya and Jon's ability to warg in the show.

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Is there enough material left in SoS for the whole season?
I think that there is actually a lot more left available than what the 3rd season had to work with in terms of major events. This season there were really only two bigthings that happened, and if I were being generous I could include more but the big events were:
  • Danerys getting the unsullied
  • The Red Wedding
  • Jaime losing his hand
  • Jon joining the wildlings
  • Tyrion marrying Sansa
  • Yunkai
  • Mormont dying
  • Bran's warging capabilities
  • Possibly defending the Wall from the South, Balon Greyjoy dying, and Coldhands in the next episode
Everything else was comparably minor (I could be forgetting some things though or just don't consider them as important as you). Next season the big things that we get are:
  • The Royal Wedding
  • At least one defence of the Wall, and possibly two if they don't have Jon defending Castle Black from the South in the next episode
  • Mereen
  • The Red Viper vs. the Mountain
  • Tyrion killing Tywin and Shae
  • Bran making it North of the Wall and Coldhands
  • The Moon Door
  • Lady Stoneheart
  • Arya killing more people, going to Braavos, and the Hound "dying" (lots of speculation that hes still alive at the Quiet Isle monastery in AFFC)

There will also probably be some content added that wasn't actually in aSoS involving the Iron Islanders, Theon, and the changes involving Gendry at Dragonstone.
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Regarding Gendry, I hope Davos smuggles him out a la Edric and he doesn't "see the light" after that whole leech display and then the deaths...
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I wonder what they will do with Tormund. Jon and him have some serious bonding in the books, and I feel like the show ignored that.

Theyve replaced Styr with Tormund so far, so how do they keep him alive during the battle at the wall? I guess he'll sneak away from the battle and back over the wall, which is the opposite of his character in the books.
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So I think at this point we can assume Rickon will be the the eventual heir and ruler of the North.
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Rickon has like zero awesome powers.

I think the dragons will burn all the white walkers.

Also wasn't there dragonstone under stannis's castle?
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Rickon has like zero awesome powers.

I think the dragons will burn all the white walkers.

Also wasn't there dragonstone under stannis's castle?
Did the red witch say something about resurrecting a dragon or something? Because I have a really interesting theory on that.
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So I think at this point we can assume Rickon will be the the eventual heir and ruler of the North.
I think so also.

The only thing that kinda makes me uncertain is the conversation between Ned and Bran after Ned executed Night Watch deserter.

That kind of felt like passing the torch moment.
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I think so also.

The only thing that kinda makes me uncertain is the conversation between Ned and Bran after Ned executed Night Watch deserter.

That kind of felt like passing the torch moment.
I actually wasn't sure until this most recent episode. Considering that the showmakers already know about the ending of the series, Bran's delivery of his lines in the most recent series somehow won me over. And it also made me think, as much as Martin may not be a literary genius, he isn't inefficient with characters. Something tells me he wouldn't have included that extra Stark child for no reason, for more than simply killing off.
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WTF WHY ARE ALL THE BOOK **** SPOILING HOW PEOPLE LOOK IN HERE LET'S BAN THEMMMMMMM %^+#}~|{
Would it be worth it to spoil the **** out of everything and get banned? Prob not but its tempting...
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I knew the whole Bastard of Bolton spoiler would create a ****storm. It was spoiled by a non-reader though.
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Would it be worth it to spoil the **** out of everything and get banned? Prob not but its tempting...
I was thinking the exact same thing. If I could make sure that only Rosebud saw the post I would ******* spoil everything then make **** up to spoil.
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I was thinking the exact same thing. If I could make sure that only Rosebud saw the post I would ******* spoil everything then make **** up to spoil.
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Actually, it's really those 2. I wouldn't ruin the thread, I would just PM them saying "Joffrey dies, Tyrion kills his dad, and Rhaegar's son might still be alive. Have fun TVfags."
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Would it be worth it to spoil the **** out of everything and get banned? Prob not but its tempting...
The thing is, Rob asked an innocent question. There's nothing about his question that would spoil anything. At all. Martin's not smart enough to foreshadow through the description of the character. Yet as soon as someone responded, some started to flip. Mostly GF1080, simply because he wrongfully read too much into a post and concluded that Tyrion must be dead, that bookreaders had spoiled it all, and that a new thread was needed. Rosebud's cool, I know he doesn't want **** spoiled, but I can also tell he's laying it on.

That being said, I realized my YouTube clip about Stannis and Renly was oddly symbolic of bookies vs. tv viewers, a weird realization.

Also, no matter how annoying, don't actually spoil anything for them.
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Suck it, TVfags.
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Ya, I have no problem with the question by Rob. No one said anything other than how characters are described, and everyone jumps to conclusions and gets uppity for no reason.
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Hi Rob!!

Just so you know, you're cool and people just make **** out of an honest question. Us bookfags are good peeps!
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I hope I didn't spoil anything. Now I actually feel guilty.

All I meant is that "The Mountain" looks closer to my Accountant then 7' beast.
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I am aware. I'm avoiding everything here, but I am assuming there is TV thread bashing because all of them suck.
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See that is my problem. If someone like Rob wanted to compare the show to the books and have a discussion on it he has to find a way to come into the heavily spoiled book thread to talk about it? That's ********.
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So I'm sure most of you have read the various theories on everything, but the one I'm reading about this mornign is the "Southron Ambitions" and Rickard Stark's secret plan to unite the Northern, Western, and Eastern houses to overthrow the Mad King.

Has anyone else read up on this or believe it? Like most of the theories, it makes a lot of sense and is pretty interesting to think about.
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