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Old 04-20-2012, 03:43 AM    (permalink
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Roman Polak is so awesome, a very underrated player in this league. Probably the Blues 2nd rated Defenseman, behind Petro.
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It'll be interesting to see what happens, so many possibilities. You'd have to think that either one or both Todd + DW get canned. As for the players, they could try to retool around the current core or blow it up completely and build around Couture/Pavs/Vlasic/Burns.

I'm not really sure which direction I want to see them go, but I definitely want changes to be made.
Yeah. They're too soft. ST. Louis is just pushing them around.

They can't really blow it up because Thornton and Marleau have no movement clauses. They're kind of stuck making minor FA additions and trying to add through trades (which depleted the prospect pool).
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Yeah. They're too soft. ST. Louis is just pushing them around.

They can't really blow it up because Thornton and Marleau have no movement clauses. They're kind of stuck making minor FA additions and trying to add through trades (which depleted the prospect pool).
Eh, I thought the Sharks dominated a lot of last nights game.
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Eh, I thought the Sharks dominated a lot of last nights game.
Andy McDonald was the one dominating.
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Pavelski and Marleau are making me mad.
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Pavelski and Marleau are making me mad.
That boarding penalty Marleau took when on the power play broke the Sharks back.
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******* ass I think he should ******* go before Big Joe. Get Marleau out of San Jose and you got a much better team. piece of ******* ****.
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A scenario I've never seen happen before:
Lets say Team A pulls their goalie in the final minutes of the game and makes it 6 on 5. Then Team B gets a delayed penalty. Usually in this scenario the goalie would be sent to the bench and an extra-attacker would come on the ice. However, in this scenario the goalie is already on the bench. So now what? Is Team A allowed to send out an extra attacker, thus making it 7 on 5?
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Old 04-20-2012, 10:34 AM    (permalink
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A scenario I've never seen happen before:
Lets say Team A pulls their goalie in the final minutes of the game and makes it 6 on 5. Then Team B gets a delayed penalty. Usually in this scenario the goalie would be sent to the bench and an extra-attacker would come on the ice. However, in this scenario the goalie is already on the bench. So now what? Is Team A allowed to send out an extra attacker, thus making it 7 on 5?
Of course not. A team is only allowed a maximum of 6 players at any time. The only reason they send the goalie to the bench on a delayed penalty is because the other team can't touch the puck without a whistle thus they can't score.
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It'll be interesting to see what happens, so many possibilities. You'd have to think that either one or both Todd + DW get canned. As for the players, they could try to retool around the current core or blow it up completely and build around Couture/Pavs/Vlasic/Burns.

I'm not really sure which direction I want to see them go, but I definitely want changes to be made.
McLellan better be fired. If he isn't, it will be a travesty. His system doesn't work and there is no reason for him to be here anymore. I think DW does a decent job, but his last two trades (Moore, and giving up McGinn) have made me lose a lot of confidence him.

I would see what the market is for Pavelski and Marleau. I don't want to trade either, but something needs to change in the top 6. Thornton/Couture should be the safest. I want to keep Clowe because he has a unique skillset and Havlat because he's fast/creative. If Pavelski/Marleau can fetch a speedy top 6 forward and a top prospect/high draft pick I would probably pull the trigger. I know I hated it earlier this year, but I would try to trade Marleau for Nash and get someone like Derek Dorsett in that deal too who can be a ****-disturber and play with some emotion. I would try to get somebody like Mason Raymond from Vancouver as a buy-low candidate.

Do not resign Moore, Mitchell, or Galiardi. Buyout Handzus. Trade Murray. I would take Winnik back, but only if he comes cheap.

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Eh, I thought the Sharks dominated a lot of last nights game.
I don't think so. They were good at slowing the pace right as they crossed the blue line, keeping the puck along the boards, turning the puck over, passing until a turnover, and taking ****** shots that mostly got blocked. That was a terrible game, and you could tell from the crowd reaction, or lack thereof.
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Of course not. A team is only allowed a maximum of 6 players at any time. The only reason they send the goalie to the bench on a delayed penalty is because the other team can't touch the puck without a whistle thus they can't score.
Oh, ok.
Yeah, I always just assumed that you got an extra attacker when there's a delayed penalty. Boy do I feel dumb now. I never played hockey growing up so I never knew as much about hockey as I do about other sports.



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McLellan better be fired. If he isn't, it will be a travesty. His system doesn't work and there is no reason for him to be here anymore. I think DW does a decent job, but his last two trades (Moore, and giving up McGinn) have made me lose a lot of confidence him.

I would see what the market is for Pavelski and Marleau. I don't want to trade either, but something needs to change in the top 6. Thornton/Couture should be the safest. I want to keep Clowe because he has a unique skillset and Havlat because he's fast/creative. If Pavelski/Marleau can fetch a speedy top 6 forward and a top prospect/high draft pick I would probably pull the trigger. I know I hated it earlier this year, but I would try to trade Marleau for Nash and get someone like Derek Dorsett in that deal too who can be a ****-disturber and play with some emotion. I would try to get somebody like Mason Raymond from Vancouver as a buy-low candidate.

Do not resign Moore, Mitchell, or Galiardi. Buyout Handzus. Trade Murray. I would take Winnik back, but only if he comes cheap.

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I don't think so. They were good at slowing the pace right as they crossed the blue line, keeping the puck along the boards, turning the puck over, passing until a turnover, and taking ****** shots that mostly got blocked. That was a terrible game, and you could tell from the crowd reaction, or lack thereof.

Paul Martin for Clowe.

Just kidding. Kinda.
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Paul Martin for Clowe.

Just kidding. Kinda.
If DW made this trade, then I would be all for firing him.
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Wings just can't get anything going. Only down a goal but it doesn't look good.
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This game is destined for overtime. Rare is a series that ends without a single OT game.
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Fleury has actually been huge for the Penguins for the past 5 minutes since Kennedy's penalty. Outstanding. First time hes looked like he belongs in the playoffs so far this series.
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I hope Nik Lindstrom comes back, he's my 2nd favorite Red Wing of all time, right behind Stevie Y. Hate the team, but it's hard to hate on those two.
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good job nashville, you were really clearly the better team. good luck.

hey holland, maybe it's time to admit that we need to make some changes.
You're expecting far too much out of Holland.
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Alright, so I'm in this absurd argument with a blowhard I know on Twitter. He says Datsyuk's 3 points in 5 games is definitive proof that he's not one of the five best forwards in the NHL.

In all seriousness, are there 5 forwards you'd rather have on your team? This moron has disregarded defensive and faceoff ability, which is a great deal of what Pavel brings to the table. He also says these 5 games define him as a player, which is absurd given he's been better than a point per game player over the past 6 postseasons (the only games that matter in this very limited argument of his).
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Malkin
Stamkos
Giroux
Datsyuk
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good job nashville, you were really clearly the better team. good luck.

hey holland, maybe it's time to admit that we need to make some changes.
Maybe Stevie Y will ditch us and finally save you guys, like I heard one billion ******* Wings fans ranting about when he was named our GM. In all honesty I don't think the Wings need much, just a few more young and talented players.
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Stamkos
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Crosby and Malkin are the only ones I'd firmly put ahead of Pavel.

This is just in the framework of this asinine argument I'm in where the guy says playoff performance is all that matters. Stamkos is on a lousy team that missed the playoffs, 13 points in 18 playoff games last year. Giroux is excellent, but doesn't have the track record of Pavel. Small sample size comes into play. Toews is certainly capable of being great, but has the same stats as Pavel facing elimination tomorrow. Joe Thornton is famously absent in the playoffs. The Sedins? No.

Man, people are dumb.
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