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View Poll Results: How will Manziel's career unfold?
Busts primarily due to off-field 4 5.97%
Busts primarily due to on-field 14 20.90%
Busts primarily due to injuries 0 0%
Inconsistent but not particularly good 10 14.93%
Inconsistent but has his moments (Vick-ish career) 25 37.31%
Solid starting QB, definitely worth the pick 4 5.97%
Game translates and he's a star 10 14.93%
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Old 07-09-2014, 12:57 PM    (permalink
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Default Predict Johnny Manziel's Career

How will he fare on the field? For me, it's the most difficult career to predict.

Busts primarily due to off-field
Busts primarily due to on-field
Busts primarily due to injuries
Inconsistent but not particularly good
Inconsistent but has his moments (Vick-ish results)
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He will be injury prone and his off-field issues will cause his on-field ability to never reach a quality level.
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Vickish career in my opinion. I hope he ends up being better though.
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Vickish career in my opinion. I hope he ends up being better though.
That's my final guess also. But I have no confidence in it whatsoever.
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I actually like him as a pure football player. But coke and sizzurp are really, really bad for you. I honestly have no idea how his it's all going to turn out, it will be damn entertaining though.
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Ryan Leaf.
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inconsistent but has his moments is almost his ceiling i think. Hes never going to epitomize consistency.

Vick like might be a reach though....vick was good enough to land 2 separate $100 million deals. When vick signed that 10 year $130 million deal with the falcons he was like 24-10-1 though
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I am hoping it is like at A&M where it's just his typical drama filled off season but when called on to make football his full time priority during the season he balls out.

The whole cocaine incident makes me nervous as **** though.
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Is inconsistent but not particularly good with a couple of Vick like moments an option?
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Where is the "DUI prior to regular season, suspension for first four games and then while serving suspension gets caught with numerous banned substances while out with other celebrities and subsequently cut from the Browns" option?
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It's the first option, busts due to off field.
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I dont actually think that will happen. Its be entertaining as hell to watch however.
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Yeah, I fall in here, as well.

Vick was a scary scary player for a few years. I'm not sure Manziel will see that ceiling.
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Then you should have voted for inconsistent but not particularly good.

Ryan Fitzpatrick has had 400 yard games. He's not particularly good though.
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Vick was a top 10/15 for a bit there in Atlanta. People forget how dynamic he was. Not a great passer but the best running QB ever.
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I want to put my vote in as fringe star, but has inconsistent moments. A better RG3 with more publicity.
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I think RG3 is significatly better than manziel, even if RG3 was rusty after injury/sophomore slump there is a big gap between the two imo. Even as prospects since manziel hasnt even played in a preseason.

More publicity than RG3 though....that is going to be tough
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It'll be a combo of the first two.
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I see him being statistically impressive like Newton, with the success and excuses of a pre -2013 Cutler.
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I wasn't exactly sure what the qualifications are for "game translates and he'll be a star," since I think he'll be considered a star if he's considered a solid starter and worth the pick, because of his style being so fun to watch and being seen as a savior of Cleveland. (And with Lebron coming back, maybe Cleveland will suddenly be a sports town again, and in a way I expect that would sort of snowball into more famous-ness and stardom for him.) But I went with the "star" vote thinking that would mean he's in the same category as Cam Newton, RGIII, Russell Wilson, Kaepernick, etc. The athletic guys who are fun to watch, have major accomplishments and records on their resumes early in their careers, and are certainly not in any danger of having the coaching staff bring in another quarterback as a serious challenger.
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I'm starting to think the wave of opinions that fluctuate like crazy over the off-season really mean nothing and it's going to boil down to whether or not Manziel's ability translates to the field.

I feel like while he has done some questionable things this offseason, calling him Ryan Leaf 2.0 and that he is going to bust because of the things he has done so far is a little far fetched. Ryan Leaf failed because he had a temper that was unmatched and couldn't handle the pressure.

Manziel on the other hand seems pretty calm and strives under pressure. A lot depends on if we have anyone besides Cameron for him to throw the ball to if he even gets to start a game this year over Hoyer.
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What I mean when I say Ryan Leaf is, he's going to be terrible on the field, have a short career, and then end up in jail on drug charges.
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I think it'll be a strong combination of the first 2 options, primarily on-field.
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I'm thinking its going to be kind of Vince Young like. His play style might be ugly but the Browns will win, he'll have a huge cult like following. The Browns might have a winning season or maybe even two and then it will all come crashing down. With his small frame and reckless playing style all the injuries will be piling up, the partying will become too much and before we know, he'll be out of the NFL.
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Of all the comparisons, Ryan Leaf is the worst I have seen. Vick is not good, but Leaf is completely out of bounds. Russell Wilson, Kaepernick and RG III would all be better.

I think the biggest thing will be his willingness to adjust his game to the new conditions. If he takes the Russell Wilson approach--using his mobility to buy time--he could be very good. If he lives on the edge, he will die on the edge.

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