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Old 07-30-2011, 02:11 PM    (permalink
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Richard Seymour.
Do I really need to make a list of the ones that didn't? Because I'll see your one and raise you at least 10.

Additionally, Seymour wasn't a "cast off."
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Not sure about Ty Warren. He was always a bit overrated, sans that one year. The last year he was healthy, he really looked very average to slightly below even. Hip injuries aren't something to just shrug your shoulders at either. Sad, but I'm not sure he's an NFL quality defensive linemen anymore.
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He's willing to sign for very cheap...he's worth the risk. I'd love him on Dallas, myself. We could use another DE to rotate in.
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I like the Dolphins signing of Kevin Burnett. Not quite as strong vs. the run as Crowder, but has a more well-rounded game. Matt Moore was a quality low-risk signing for them as well.
I was really hoping for Burnett. We just have so little at the position, right now.
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Ok this....was true maybe years ago. But Moss at this stage of his career wouldn't crack a reasonable "top WR rankings" list while Nnamdi would rarely fall lower than 2nd or 3rd on a top CBs list.
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Are you being serious?
Guys, I'm not saying Moss is going to be 1 on 1 with Nmandi.

Moss would round out our WR core, and give their 3 CBs a fight. We have an inconsistent 3rd WR, he brings us more stability as the 3rd option, that's my point.

Nicks vs Nmandi = Nmandi neutralizes him

Smith vs Asante = draw

???? vs DRC = ???


Well if it's Mario/Barden/Cruz/whoever else on the roster, I think DRC wins. But if it's Moss vs DRC, I'm betting on Moss to win that matchup.

And that gives our WR core an even battle vs their CB trio.


THAT'S the point I'm trying to make. And for what it's worth, I think Randy is going to have a huge year. But that's based on a hunch.
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The CB trio probably wont last...these things always work themselves out, when you have too much talent and not enough PT to go around. All three of these guys are talented starting corners. One will get moved, or injured or something...it always happens. Besides, none of them will be content with a nickel role.
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I disagree. Your nickel defense is the new base defense anyway. Your 3-4/4-3 has become a sub package nowadays.

All 3 will see plenty of playing time. And they'd be dumb to move Asante. He's only due 5 mill this year, they're not breaking the bank to keep him. Why not have 3 stud CBs in a passing league? Makes perfect sense to me.

I've said this for awhile now, having 3 good CBs is a must nowadays, not a luxury. Having 2 good CBs is not enough with so many spread packages in the league now.

Your nickel CB is 10x more important than your SAM. Your nickel is your base defense.

The Packers ran a nickel defense basically the whole 2nd half of the season and in the playoffs. Your base defense is a sub package.
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Yeah 3 "good corners" we're talking more than just good. Players certainly have egos. They all want to be starting legitmately. You think Asante or DRC would be content covering the slot all game long?

This isnt going to last any longer than one year, if it gets that far. I guarantee it. Whenever there is an over abundance of major talent at the same position, something almost always happens to derail it.

Looks good on paper, but realistically...they're going to have a hard time keeping all three happy.
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...lion-contract/

5 years $90 million for Peyton Manning. I hope they worked it creatively because he'll be counting for about 10% of the cap on his own in any given year of that deal.
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At this point it seems as if San Fran is the best landing spot for a Dre Kirkpatrick or Gilmore next year..I know not what Niners fans want to hear right now but one of them will probably end up better than some of these FAs anyway
I agree with this but they got worse this offseason. I would've been happy keeping Clements then getting a 1st round CB next year. But now our starting CBs are Shawntae Spencer and Tarell Brown. Won't cut it.
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Oh yeah he's out there, but ehhh I'd rather take my chances with Clements. Cromartie just strikes me as a moron. And I never thought he was that great anyways, always getting toasted in San Diego.
They've dumped so much cap it's not even funny. They should sign Cromartie AND bring Clements back on the cheap. Could easily sign them both for what many hoped they'd spend to get Nnamdi.
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They've dumped so much cap it's not even funny. They should sign Cromartie AND bring Clements back on the cheap. Could easily sign them both for what many hoped they'd spend to get Nnamdi.
Honestly I wonder what's taking them so long. Didn't seem like they were being aggressive at all. I don't want them to break the bank on every free agent out there, but go after someone rather than no one. At least one or two positions. Hell all I wanted was an upgrade at corner, where we need help. I know they tried to go after Asomugha, but it seems like they gave up when that didn't work out. I hope they were at least targeting Joesph and Marshall.
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The one guy I really wanted signs with Arizona. And there aren't really any free agent corners left. No one notable anyways. Unless we bring back Clements.
I've basically been hearing he is a NB but can play as a #2 CB, think you could tell me a little bit about him?
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What the ****? They dont even need him.

God...I would have gladly payed that price, which isnt even a lot, instead of giving Spears $20 million.
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I've basically been hearing he is a NB but can play as a #2 CB, think you could tell me a little bit about him?
He's a pretty big guy for a corner and fairly physical as well. Back when Carolina had three decent corners in Lucas, Gamble, and Marshall, I think Marshall usually played in a nickel package...but that's because the Panthers already had two decent starters. Anyways, I personally like his size and physical prowess. And he's still pretty young. I think he would have made a great addition. At least he would be an upgrade over Brown and Spencer as starters. Spencer is barely a decent #2.
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Is Philadelphia stacking up for a Super Bowl run or something? Do they not think Vick will last long? Curious.
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soooo Alan Branch = Cullen Jenkins?

why did he get paid so little(why did branch get paid so much)
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WTF how is that even possible
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must've taken a smaller contract to play in Philly. they are beefing up on the D-Line with Jenkins and Babin. Two signings that won't get talked about much but might be as important as any other moves they've made.
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Apparently the Eagles plan on starting 15 guys on defense this year. Good luck everyone else. They must have snuck that into the new CBA somewhere.
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I'm going to laugh if Philly doesn't win it all this year.
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Eagles murdered the FA market.

The Cards did not.
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