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Old 07-31-2011, 10:23 AM    (permalink
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I think Eric Wright is a capable #2 :\
If by "capable", you mean "capable of making opposing QBs all look like Tom Brady", then yes. Chris Houston is a much better player. 2010 numbers:

Houston: 51/85 (60.0%), 542 yards (6.37 YPA), 3 TD, 1 INT, 6 PD, 85.5 rating

Wright: 43/65 (66.2%), 623 yards (9.58 YPA), 6 TD, 1 INT, 5 PD, 121.5 rating

Who would you rather have? Wright's numbers were some of the worst in the NFL in 2010.
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Really curious as to where James Jones lands. Rodgers wants him back, Cardinals could use him, Vikings took themselves out of it. Could be a big time player.
just not the Jets like I read somewhere. Anywhere but there. please.
with Cobb drafted, does that make him somewhat expendable?
I think the Pack really only want him back at the right price, right? With jennings, driver, jordyzzzz, Finley and Cobb they've got a ton of talent there. Although Driver's age might be a factor...
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The real reason why Jones hasn't been signed anywhere is, just like Cullen Jenkins, he's actually not that good.

The Packers saw him every day and were smart enough to recognize that he wasn't part of their "core" team. Surprisingly, the rest of the NFL seems to have been smart enough to have made that observation as well.

James Jones = Jacoby Jones

He's just getting more attention because he won a Superbowl. It's the Alvin Harper effect.
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The Seahawks will release LB Lofa Tatupu. Did not grade out very well last year - play no longer matched cost.
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I would have liked for the Chiefs to get Franklin but I don't think he is worth big money.
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The real reason why Jones hasn't been signed anywhere is, just like Cullen Jenkins, he's actually not that good.

The Packers saw him every day and were smart enough to recognize that he wasn't part of their "core" team. Surprisingly, the rest of the NFL seems to have been smart enough to have made that observation as well.

James Jones = Jacoby Jones

He's just getting more attention because he won a Superbowl. It's the Alvin Harper effect.
Interesting, I haven't seen much of him, I'm just going based off his potential etc.

Also, if Lofa is cut, wouldn't mind the Giants kicking the tires, but we seem to be content with our group of young guys praying that one emerges...that's gonna be fun.
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just not the Jets like I read somewhere. Anywhere but there. please.
with Cobb drafted, does that make him somewhat expendable?
I think the Pack really only want him back at the right price, right? With jennings, driver, jordyzzzz, Finley and Cobb they've got a ton of talent there. Although Driver's age might be a factor...
He would be a great fit in New York but if he wants to be a #3 with the possibility to start in the near future then he can stay in Green Bay. Even if he lines up at the 4 sometimes here, he'll still get more thrown his way than he would in New York in the slot. He's already familiar with the system too. I don't think he'll ever be a true #1 but a really good #2 and great #3. Driver's age is getting up there but he's still productive. Our receiving corps is loaded with talent and that may detrimental in bringing Jones back with his asking price. Our system has been to build through the draft and extend our core before they hit FA. Nelson, Finley, and Sitton are due big money extensions soon.

What it boils down to is that Jones' asking price is too high for a #3 in Green Bay.
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I would have liked for the Chiefs to get Franklin but I don't think he is worth big money.
Based on his play in 2009 and 2010, he's worth it as a top-notch run stuffer. However, it's also possible that he was playing for the contract and won't give that kind of production in the future. I would still consider it a quality signing if Kansas City landed Franklin.
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If by "capable", you mean "capable of making opposing QBs all look like Tom Brady", then yes. Chris Houston is a much better player. 2010 numbers:

Houston: 51/85 (60.0%), 542 yards (6.37 YPA), 3 TD, 1 INT, 6 PD, 85.5 rating

Wright: 43/65 (66.2%), 623 yards (9.58 YPA), 6 TD, 1 INT, 5 PD, 121.5 rating

Who would you rather have? Wright's numbers were some of the worst in the NFL in 2010.

How about before last year? I believe last year was Wright's worst, and Houston's best. Chris Houston sucks. It's an upgrade, or at least a worthy gamble for Detroit.
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The real reason why Jones hasn't been signed anywhere is, just like Cullen Jenkins, he's actually not that good.

The Packers saw him every day and were smart enough to recognize that he wasn't part of their "core" team. Surprisingly, the rest of the NFL seems to have been smart enough to have made that observation as well.

James Jones = Jacoby Jones

He's just getting more attention because he won a Superbowl. It's the Alvin Harper effect.
he was hardly any better than any other WR on the packers team. i dont know why people suddenly go crazy over him
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Wow, surprising how little Detroit signed Tulloch for - one year, $3.25 million.
I think they'll give or have indicated to Tulloch they'll make every effort to give him the long-term extension he's looking for during the season.
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1) Braylon Edwards
2) Matt Roth
3) Todd Heap
4) Rocky McIntosh
5) Antonio Cromartie
6) Lofa Tatupu
7) Zach Miller
8) Donte Whitner
9) Jamaal Brown
10) Gerald Sensabaugh


There are still other good players (Manny Lawson, Kelvin Hayden, Carlos Rogers) that are still available.
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he was hardly any better than any other WR on the packers team. i dont know why people suddenly go crazy over him
Hardly any better than any other WR? I think that's a compliment considering who we have?
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Top free agents still available:

1) Braylon Edwards
2) Michael Huff
3) Stephen Tulloch (although I'm sure Titans fans will disagree)
4) Matt Roth
5) Todd Heap
6) Rocky McIntosh
7) Antonio Cromartie
8) Lofa Tatupu
9) Zach Miller
10) Donte Whitner


There are still other good players (Manny Lawson, Kelvin Hayden, Carlos Rogers) that are still available.

I believe Huff re upped with the Raiders.
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Top free agents still available:

1) Braylon Edwards
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3) Stephen Tulloch (although I'm sure Titans fans will disagree)
4) Matt Roth
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7) Antonio Cromartie
8) Lofa Tatupu
9) Zach Miller
10) Donte Whitner


There are still other good players (Manny Lawson, Kelvin Hayden, Carlos Rogers) that are still available.
Huff has re-signed with Oakland this morning. Tulloch signed for the Lions about 2 hours ago.

EDIT: I see you have noticed Tulloch's signing.
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I'm still hot on Roth and Lawson for the Patriots. Either would do. Lawson excites me more because of the athleticism and just the sheer number of things he can do.
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The Titans are going to have to hope that Barrett Ruud dramatically improves his level of play in Tennessee. Last year, he appeared to regress significantly. Could be an ugly drop-off from Tulloch.
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Wow, surprising how little Detroit signed Tulloch for - one year, $3.25 million.
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I like the Lions' addition of Tulloch. Very strong starter at ILB and already a known quantity having played for Schwartz before.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA

ARE we talking about the same Stephen Tulloch? the one who is not only terrible against the run, but COMPLETELY incompetent in the pass game. I dont think you will find a single titans fan on this board that isn't happy to see him leave. Oh and after a signing only a 1 year deal you should know what the rest of the NFL thinks about him.... and the fact that chose Barrett ******* Rudd over him...
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How about before last year? I believe last year was Wright's worst, and Houston's best. Chris Houston sucks. It's an upgrade, or at least a worthy gamble for Detroit.
Fair enough - Wright was pretty good in 2009, but dreadfully awful in 2008. Houston was good with Atlanta in 2008, then struggled in 2009. I find it kind of amazing that Wright would get exposed so badly playing for Eric Mangini and Rob Ryan though.
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just not the Jets like I read somewhere. Anywhere but there. please.
with Cobb drafted, does that make him somewhat expendable?
I think the Pack really only want him back at the right price, right? With jennings, driver, jordyzzzz, Finley and Cobb they've got a ton of talent there. Although Driver's age might be a factor...
At this point given the Jets try to be a run first team and now have Holmes, Plax, and Cotchery (who everyone forgets about for some reason but is a good receiver IMO) I think they'd be better off spending their money on other positions (like corner) anyway. I like Jones and think he has a lot of upside, but he's so inconsistent that I'd be really leery of signing him.
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Nick Barnett is in buffalo right now on the practice field talking with coaches
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I can't believe no one has signed Zach Miller. He must be asking for the moon.
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Fair enough - Wright was pretty good in 2009, but dreadfully awful in 2008. Houston was good with Atlanta in 2008, then struggled in 2009. I find it kind of amazing that Wright would get exposed so badly playing for Eric Mangini and Rob Ryan though.
Not true at all about Wright. He was very good every year up until this past season. And Ryan's schemes hurt Wright. He was left on an island quite frequently and even with Ryan's blitzes, the Browns still struggled to create pressure. He had a bad year, but Ryan's scheme definitely did not help.
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I can't believe no one has signed Zach Miller. He must be asking for the moon.

Pretty surprised as well. Also, apparently the Skins are going after Ahmad Bradshaw. Interesting.
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