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Old 03-03-2012, 11:47 AM    (permalink
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Nelson's nothing special.
He was a flameout, a bust, who's done okay behind a solid defense.
You do not pay guys like him that much.
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Nelson's nothing special.
He was a flameout, a bust, who's done okay behind a solid defense.
You do not pay guys like him that much.
You're underrating his year.
He was the best DB we had once Hall went down.
How many Bengals games did you actually watch this year?
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Except Nelson said he was likely gonna follow Coyle to Miami.
So to keep him, we will likely have to overpay anyways, or lose him to Miami.

Which puts us back with Sands as our starting FS.
And does anyone actually expect Brown to go out and sign a safety who would be better?
Hmmm. It's still too much money to give to Nelson. And this is coming from a guy who was probably Nelson's biggest fan the year he came out of the draft.

I'm glad he's turning his career around. He always had great ability, I'd like to see him stay in Zimmer's defense where he can continue to grow. Zimmer knows how to use him. He's a single high FS. Zimmer's aggressive 46 concepts helps him maximize his talents. Hopefully he can stay in that front and continue to develop his skills. Better late than never.
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Nelson's nothing special.
He was a flameout, a bust, who's done okay behind a solid defense.
You do not pay guys like him that much.
Are you not listening to anything being said? Reggie Nelson is admittedly average at best, but the atrocious safety depth behind him, a poor draft class, and a poor FA class makes him valuable to the Bengals. At least for this season.
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Are you not listening to anything being said? Reggie Nelson is admittedly average at best, but the atrocious safety depth behind him, a poor draft class, and a poor FA class makes him valuable to the Bengals. At least for this season.
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Ugh Robert Sands and Taylor Mays as the starting safeties is just asking teams to pass the ball on every down.
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Old 03-04-2012, 11:06 AM    (permalink
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Yeah but he'd have to play in Cincinnati. :(
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Yeah but he'd have to play in Cincinnati. :(
Why do you hurt me vidae?
We made the playoffs and dont have Matt Cassel
Cincinnati > KC

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You should have drafted Bulaga. Have fun with Reiff
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WOW. I was joking and you pile on all the hurtin. :( :(
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WOW. I was joking and you pile on all the hurtin. :( :(
Im bringing the hammer.

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Hmmm. It's still too much money to give to Nelson. And this is coming from a guy who was probably Nelson's biggest fan the year he came out of the draft.

I'm glad he's turning his career around. He always had great ability, I'd like to see him stay in Zimmer's defense where he can continue to grow. Zimmer knows how to use him. He's a single high FS. Zimmer's aggressive 46 concepts helps him maximize his talents. Hopefully he can stay in that front and continue to develop his skills. Better late than never.
That's why it makes sense for the Bengals to overpay a little to keep him. As long as they have a great DC like Zimmer who will be able to utilize Nelson's talents and nobody else at safety overpaying him isn't a big deal IMO. I mean we overpaid for Antrel Rolle when we signed him because we only had Kenny Phillips and his mysterious knee at the time. I missed a lot of Bengals games, but if he was actually good for them they're better off holding onto him than hoping they can bring in someone who doesn't suck to replace him.
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Marshawn Lynch gets new deal. 4/31 (18 million guaranteed), 7.75 million a year.

That's a reasonable deal for both sides. It would have cost that much this year to franchise him, and the 18 million is a decent guarantee for Lynch (but not a ton).

By contrast, Deangelo Williams got 8.6 million per with 21 million guaranteed.

It's still more guaranteed money than I would have given Lynch, but not unreasonable.
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My hope is that Forte will be ok to settle for something like that. It's probably the only way he avoids being franchised this year and next.
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For a guy who had one good season in his last 3, that's too much. I'd take my chances of finding a new RB in the draft over paying Lynch $7.75 million. There are only a handful of RBs worth paying, and Lynch isn't one of them.

EDIT: And no chance Forte would do that. He's significantly better than Lynch. He's one of the few I would pay.

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I would have franchised him to see if he could do it again, but whatever.
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For a guy who had one good season in his last 3, that's too much. I'd take my chances of finding a new RB in the draft over paying Lynch $7.75 million. There are only a handful of RBs worth paying, and Lynch isn't one of them.

EDIT: And no chance Forte would do that. He's significantly better than Lynch. He's one of the few I would pay.
He's significantly better than DeAngelo Williams too and I wouldn't give any RB that deal. That was a godawful deal. I've hated it since it happened because I knew that became the floor for Forte's eventual deal.
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EDIT: And no chance Forte would do that. He's significantly better than Lynch. He's one of the few I would pay.
Probably not, but the truth is that we could franchise him for this year at 7.5 and then next year for something like 9 million. I'd rather franchise him for 2-3 years than give him 30 million guaranteed.
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Schefter reporting the Titans are going to franchise Michael Griffin. Meh
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Looks like Stevie Johnson is staying in Buffalo for 5 more years. Contract expected to be completed within the next 24 hours.
That sucks. Well, not for Buffalo fans. I wanted him on the 49ers.
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Reports say Raiders will most likely keep Michael Huff and his current contract, and will either restructure or cut Kamrion Wimbley sometime this week. Wimbley is open to restructuring, but we will see if a deal is able to get done.
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