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Old 04-13-2012, 01:02 AM    (permalink
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Good for us though...

DE: Red Bryant/Jason Jones
DT: Brandon Mebane
DT: Alan Branch/Jason Jones
DE: Chris Clemons/Dexter Davis

OLB: LeRoy Hill
MLB: Barrett Ruud
OLB: K.J. Wright

CB: Brandon Browner/Marcus Trufant
FS: Earl Thomas
SS: Kam Chancellor
CB: Richard Sherman/Walter Thurmond/Roy Lewis

Top ten unit right there when you add a DT/MLB/DE. YES!
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I still don't understand how Aaron Curry didn't work out for you guys in the 4-3.
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I still don't understand how Aaron Curry didn't work out for you guys in the 4-3.


Because he's terrible.
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Why do so many supposed "sure thing" 1st round (specifically top of 1st round) LBs fail to live up to expectations? Aaron Curry, AJ Hawk (to a certain extent), Bobby Carpenter and Ernie Sims come to mind. Keith Rivers as well but you could probably blame that one on injuries. Sure there are some exceptions (Willis, Cushing) but it's kind of troubling. I still have a huge mancrush on Kuechly but he might be riskier than people are making him out to be.
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Because he's terrible.
Seemed to do okay with the Raiders in limited time.
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Why do so many supposed "sure thing" 1st round (specifically top of 1st round) LBs fail to live up to expectations? Aaron Curry, AJ Hawk (to a certain extent), Bobby Carpenter and Ernie Sims come to mind. Keith Rivers as well but you could probably blame that one on injuries. Sure there are some exceptions (Willis, Cushing) but it's kind of troubling. I still have a huge mancrush on Kuechly but he might be riskier than people are making him out to be.
most of those guys are 43 LBs and their draft position never really created the production to match it in the 43. Timmons was a WILL prospect but bulked up and moved inside in our 34. Beason is a beast in a 43 though at pretty much all positions.

i liked aaron curry and rivers as 34 guys personally
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Why do so many supposed "sure thing" 1st round (specifically top of 1st round) LBs fail to live up to expectations? Aaron Curry, AJ Hawk (to a certain extent), Bobby Carpenter and Ernie Sims come to mind. Keith Rivers as well but you could probably blame that one on injuries. Sure there are some exceptions (Willis, Cushing) but it's kind of troubling. I still have a huge mancrush on Kuechly but he might be riskier than people are making him out to be.
Very true. I always felt that linebackers (4-3) have one of the easier translations to the NFL but I'm starting to think otherwise.
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I wonder why no one has picked up Mike Wallace Yet?Greedy bastard .
Wallace is a fine wr but giving up a first and $10 mil per year is a lot, especially when there are plenty of good wrs available in the draft.
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GUYS THE GIANTS BROUGHT CHASE BLACKBURN BACK SO EVERYTHING IS OK NOW.

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GUYS THE GIANTS BROUGHT CHASE BLACKBURN BACK SO EVERYTHING IS OK NOW.

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Excellent!! No LB for us in the draft.
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London Fletcher re-signs with Skins:
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The Goff workout must have scared him.
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The Goff workout must have scared him.
We are thin at ILB regardless. What can you guys tell me about Goff? I still think we sign him as well I just don't know much about him.
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We are thin at ILB regardless. What can you guys tell me about Goff? I still think we sign him as well I just don't know much about him.
Run stuffer and not much else. Very smart and uses that to his benefit. Think Pierce but not as good.
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also coming off a torn ACL.

and he's no Chase.

chase chase chase chase chase
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Run stuffer and not much else. Very smart and uses that to his benefit. Think Pierce but not as good.
I liked what I saw watching film on him and I think he could benefit greatly learning from Fletcher for the next 2-3 years.
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Why do so many supposed "sure thing" 1st round (specifically top of 1st round) LBs fail to live up to expectations? Aaron Curry, AJ Hawk (to a certain extent), Bobby Carpenter and Ernie Sims come to mind. Keith Rivers as well but you could probably blame that one on injuries. Sure there are some exceptions (Willis, Cushing) but it's kind of troubling. I still have a huge mancrush on Kuechly but he might be riskier than people are making him out to be.
Bc most "sure thing" prospects are high floor low ceiling guys with limited athleticism. They're typically guys who are already very sound technique wise and well coached, so you know what you're getting with them.

The problem with that is, when you have a low ceiling, you generally wind up being a JAG in the NFL. At the end of the day, the great players in this league outside of the qb position typically have elite athleticism to go with great football instincts.

If you're not athletic, there's only so much you can do on the football field. That's why we see so many workout warriors get drafted so high. You have to have a certain level of athleticism to succeed in this league.
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bigbluedefense is spot on; size/athleticism/intelligence reveal a player's perceived ceiling, while some prospects are much farther along developmentally and can help teams which are ready to complete now or need an immediate fix.
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I'm thinking that Hawk simply stopped juicing. That guy was crazy-good at tOSU, he absolutely lit up the combine (40" VJ, 3.96 20-yard shuttle, 6.82 3-cone), and you don't see any of that in the NFL.
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Hawk and Curry are both incredible athletes. Sims was a freak. Rivers was too.
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I'm thinking that Hawk simply stopped juicing. That guy was crazy-good at tOSU, he absolutely lit up the combine (40" VJ, 3.96 20-yard shuttle, 6.82 3-cone), and you don't see any of that in the NFL.
After teaming up with Clay Matthews?
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Hawk and Curry are both incredible athletes. Sims was a freak. Rivers was too.
Rivers is a freak, and showed lots of promise while healthy. I hate that hes with the G-Men but I do hope he regains his form.
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I wouldn't be sir prized if he passed McCoy on the depth chart. I think he might have a better arm and accurate arm then him from the highlights I thought. He also got some wheels too help us prepare for QB's as Wilson , RG3 and other runners etc.
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