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Old 04-25-2012, 08:09 AM    (permalink
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Grimes shouldn't go anywhere. He's a great slot CB and nowadays your slot CB is just as important as the guys on the outside.

He fits the scheme as well. Dunta has to go. He's awful.
I'm a big Brent Grimes fan but if some desperate team were to throw a late 3rd at us I think we take it. I think that scenario is unlikely and we may just end up holding onto all three.
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Sinorice Moss signs...in Canada.

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And we traded up to get him. One of the rare bad Giants FO moves of the last 10 years.
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I would have figured that, at the very least, he would have made an adequate slot receiver and return man.
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Old 04-25-2012, 09:47 AM    (permalink
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And we traded up to get him. One of the rare bad Giants FO moves of the last 10 years.
Not only that, but you took him eight picks ahead of Greg Jennings.
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Nick Collins released. Crap.
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NFC North safeties....not exactly a strong bunch.
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Nick Collins released. Crap.
I expected that, but I thought they'd wait until after the draft. Green Bay doesn't take chances with neck injuries.

Great player. I hope he was smart with his money.
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Asante Samuel to the Falcons per NFL.COM
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Falcons just don dere stole Asante.
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And then the Falcons give Samuel 3 years $18 million.
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They can save that by cutting Dunta Robinson.
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Trade Grimes to Detroit!
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They can save that by cutting Dunta Robinson.

Dunta restructured. Costs more to cut than to keep. Next year, if he doesn't show massive improvements. I think he's our nickle. Can have some success there, I think. NB blitz and can throw himself around in the run game.
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Trade Grimes to Detroit!

Psh. Asante and Grimes will make zone so fun to watch, BBD will come around to it.
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I completely missed the last page. We aren't trading Grimes.
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And then the Falcons give Samuel 3 years $18 million.
That's not a bad deal at all. I'd rather have Samuel at that price than any of the free agent CBs and the contracts they got.
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I expected that, but I thought they'd wait until after the draft. Green Bay doesn't take chances with neck injuries.

Great player. I hope he was smart with his money.
What is the word on his neck injury? If he can play, and his medical would check out, I wouldn't mind the Eagles looking itno bringing him in for competition. They have done similar things like this before, and it didn't work out, so they may shy away from him, regardless if he's healthy or not, but what's the word on him and his injury?
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What is the word on his neck injury? If he can play, and his medical would check out, I wouldn't mind the Eagles looking itno bringing him in for competition. They have done similar things like this before, and it didn't work out, so they may shy away from him, regardless if he's healthy or not, but what's the word on him and his injury?
The fact that the Packers released him tells you everything you need to know. If he could play, he'd still be on their roster. Unless he has some miraculous rehabilitation over the next couple months, his career is over. I wouldn't be surprised to see him officially retire soon.
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NFC North safeties....not exactly a strong bunch.
True story: PFF rated Delmas and Conte as the best safeties in the division for 2011 with an explanation like "Well, they weren't all that great, but they didn't get torched like everyone else."

Funny fact...Craig Steltz got the highest overall grade and the highest coverage grade in the division but didn't qualify because he only had 400something snaps.
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Psh. Asante and Grimes will make zone so fun to watch, BBD will come around to it.
I don't hate zone. I just prefer press man. But it depends on the players on your team.

I hate zone coverage on my team bc my team is built to play press man. I'd hate man coverage with the Falcons bc you're built to play zone.

Make sense? I believe you let the players dictate the scheme, not the other way around.

Now if I'm building a team from scratch, I want press man CBs. That's my preference. But I don't make it a law saying every team should play it. Play to your strengths.


Now I do feel that zone is somewhat worse in general bc I feel that elite qbs will always find the hole in the zones, but if you don't have man corners, don't play man. Zone can still be effective if you have a dominant pass rush up front that can lead to turnovers from zone coverage behind it.
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True story: PFF rated Delmas and Conte as the best safeties in the division for 2011 with an explanation like "Well, they weren't all that great, but they didn't get torched like everyone else."

Funny fact...Craig Steltz got the highest overall grade and the highest coverage grade in the division but didn't qualify because he only had 400something snaps.
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Funny fact...Craig Steltz got the highest overall grade and the highest coverage grade in the division but didn't qualify because he only had 400something snaps.


Sadly, that qualifies you as an elite level safety in today's league.
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Football is evolution. Right now offenses have realized that safeties are not atheltic enough to defend TEs and also have the range to defend seam stretching WRs at the same time.

So they have taken advantage of it. Defenses will counter with their own adustments. More athletes will be asked to play safety in college and players will be developed differently. It won't be the "you're too big and/or slow to play CB so we're playing you at safety" position that it currently is at the collegiate level as the stock of safeties continues to rise in the draft. More athletes will play it to get paid.
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