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Old 07-28-2011, 12:15 PM    (permalink
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I like the Spaeth signing, but I'm a Gophers fan.

Don't want to lose Olson, think he's very special, but I do like the other guys we have at the position.
Olsen doesn't fit with Martz, or even the Bears culture in general.

Arizona would be a good place for him.
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Redskins reached agreement with former Cowboys DE Stephen Bowen on a 5-year, $27.5 million deal that includes $12.5 million in guarantees

muaawaahahahaha. this is better than cullen jenkins for sure. a good bit younger and stolen from the boys. doesnt have jenkins injury issues either.
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Blow to the Cowboys. Cowboy fans were pimping Bowen all offseason, now he goes to the Redskins.

And they probably can't afford Cullen Jenkins (the Cowboys that is), which will mean their defense will be even more mediocre this year.

The Cowboys better hope they can outscore everyone, bc their defense is going to be very soft this year. Rob Ryan isn't an upgrade over Wade Phillips, and he has less talent to work with.
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Blow to the Cowboys. Cowboy fans were pimping Bowen all offseason, now he goes to the Redskins.

And they probably can't afford Cullen Jenkins (the Cowboys that is), which will means their defense will be even more mediocre this year.

The Cowboys better hope they can outscore everyone, bc their defense is going to be very soft this year. Rob Ryan isn't an upgrade over Wade Phillips, and he has less talent to work with.
On paper, you're right.

But there is physically no way their secondary can play worse this season. And having your QB helps the whole team.
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Jared Gaither sent out a facebook status saying thanks to all the Ravens fans and team management. I guess he signed with oakland. IT sucks seeing a franchise LT leave like that.
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On paper, you're right.

But there is physically no way their secondary can play worse this season. And having your QB helps the whole team.
I'm not saying the Cowboys as a team will be worse, but I do think their defense will be just as mediocre as it was last season.

They have 2 studs in their front 7 (Ware and Ratliff) and the rest are mediocre, and their secondary is horrible. There is a serious lack of talent on that dallas defense.

And I don't want to hear how Rob Ryan will fix everything. Wade Phillips' resume as a DC is lightyears ahead of Rob Ryan's resume.

Wade actually put together dominant defenses. Rob's claim to fame is being Rex's brother.
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I just want Tulloch and Joseph, is that too much to ask for? Probably...
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The Saints acquired S Jonathon Amaya in the Bush trade. Who the **** is Jonathon Amaya? lol.

I pride myself on knowing everyone. Dammit.
Most Dolphins' fans like him well enough. Probably not a starter but he's done well in preseason for us and should be a good role player.
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I'm not saying the Cowboys as a team will be worse, but I do think their defense will be just as mediocre as it was last season.

They have 2 studs in their front 7 (Ware and Ratliff) and the rest are mediocre, and their secondary is horrible. There is a serious lack of talent on that dallas defense.

And I don't want to hear how Rob Ryan will fix everything. Wade Phillips' resume as a DC is lightyears ahead of Rob Ryan's resume.

Wade actually put together dominant defenses. Rob's claim to fame is being Rex's brother.
OK but Phillips was the HC. It's a different role and could absolutely affect his performance coaching the D. Some guys are suited better to be coordinators because of it.

I understand your point about their personnel on paper (they still have D-Ware) but I just think that group of guys was so bad last year that they simply have to play better this year. It's the nature of the NFL.
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I'm so mad...Bowen was way too expensive, though. Wow.

The kid is going to be a stud. His bull rush is amazing, he could be a pretty decent sack guy in Washington.

So freaking mad.

As for Jenkins...I wouldnt count Dallas out of that at all. Their main competition for him was Washington. They have to get it done. Otherwise we're on the phone with Spears, Kenyon Coleman, and Robaire Smith. ughhhhhhhhhhhh.
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Two names I surprisingly haven't heard ONCE since FA began:

Mike Sims-Walker and Terrell Owens.


I'm kind of surprised at the lack of action on the NFC South Guards. Davin Joseph, Harvey Dahl, and Justin Blalock. There's been some on Joseph, but hardly anything on the two Falcons.
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I'm kind of surprised at the lack of action on the NFC South Guards. Davin Joseph, Harvey Dahl, and Justin Blalock. There's been some on Joseph, but hardly anything on the two Falcons.
Very true. It's interesting because Mankins signed his tender and for some strange reason no #s have been released about Gallery's deal...
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I'm so mad...Bowen ways way too expensive, though. Wow.

The kid is going to be a stud. His bull rush is amazing, he could be a pretty big sack guy in Washington.

So freaking mad.

As for Jenkins...I wouldnt count Dallas out of that at all. Their main competition for him was Washington. They have to get it done. Otherwise we're on the phone with Spears, Kenyon Coleman, and Robaire Smith. ughhhhhhhhhhhh.
definitely not cheap but not really over market either. i have a feeling ill be happy with that deal for bowen when we see what cullen gets paid.
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Joseph is certainly a lock to return, though. No one is really looking to compete with Tampa here.
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definitely not cheap but not really over market either. i have a feeling ill be happy with that deal for bowen when we see what cullen gets paid.
I cant believe you landed Bowen and Cofield. There is sooooooo much potential there.
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That is a huge signing for us if it goes through. Veldheer looked very promising as a rookie, so barring injury or a drop in performance OT won't be a position of need for Oakland for the first time in at least a decade.
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That is a huge signing for us if it goes through. Veldheer looked very promising as a rookie, so barring injury or a drop in performance OT won't be a position of need for Oakland for the first time in at least a decade.
Im still not sure you guys are going to get what you pay for with Gaither. He was great one season, but he's still almost entirely potential at this point. The guy's got no mean streak to him, Im not entirely convinced he'll be worth the likely huge LT money he's going to get.
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definitely not cheap but not really over market either. i have a feeling ill be happy with that deal for bowen when we see what cullen gets paid.
Bowen has started a total of 11 games in his career and he's 27 years old. They overpaid.
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yea there were fishy things going on with his back injury. Like doctors couldnt find the tear in his back. He also showed up 30 pounds underweight for the 2010 training camp.

I still would rather have him at LT and Oher at RT but we will see what his antics are if he goes to a team that isnt a winner.
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The Patriots have begun serious contract negotiations to re-sign free agent OT Matt Light. Greg Bedard of the Boston Globe reports that the deal could be completed as soon as today.
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doctors couldnt find the tear in his back.
yes, fishy business, he's a big softy, doesn't have the killer demenor a 6'10 330 pound lineman should have.
Glad he's gone.
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Bowen has started a total of 11 games in his career and he's 27 years old. They overpaid.
They did. But he was going to start for us this year. And there is no denying his talent. He gets after the QB. His bull rush certainly ranks among the best in the league. He's going to produce.
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Bowen has started a total of 11 games in his career and he's 27 years old. They overpaid.
Yea they slightly overpaid for him, but he really has a ton of potential and flashed a ton of ability the past 2 seasons. He can get after the QB from the 5-tech, that's a rarity. He was probably our 3rd best player in the front 7 outside of Ware and Ratliff.

We're gonna have to score 30+ a game to compete in our division, our defense is really not looking good.
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Bears sign Matt Spaeth.
Good. This should open things up for Weslye Saunders.

Spaeth was a big disappointment after some great games early in his career. He never developed as a red-zone target and never became a good blocker (consistently at least).

I remember reading that was supposed to be his forte, and then he spends his off-seasons practicing his routerunning with Larry Fitzgerald and gets blown up during games by defenders.

In any case, best of luck to him in Chicago, he probably fits what they're trying to do there and what Martz likes out of his TE's.
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