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Old 03-12-2013, 08:38 PM    (permalink
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Let's remember, as of 5:30, the Bucs were sending a private plane to pick Goldson up. Gonna take some time for him to get there, but according to Schefter, who is the most reliable guy, it doesn't seem like Goldson is leaving Tampa without a contract.
Yeah, I know, which is why I put some stipulations in that post.
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for some reason, i think Welker ends up in Denver. The thought of Manning + Welker makes me sick
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I think Cruz would be perfect in NE or Minny. Late 1st for a 26 WR with over 2,500 yards and 19 Td's the last two seasons is not bad.
Cruz would be pointless in Minnesota by himself. Great fit in NE though, they should give up the first for him.
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for some reason, i think Welker ends up in Denver. The thought of Manning + Welker makes me sick
Do they have the cap? Franchise Tag and signing Vasquez
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Bears signed the sexiest TE. Y'all can't deny it. Bow chicka wow wow.
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Kevin Burnett cut now too. Had a really good year last season, good starting backer for a 4-3 team.
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Manning and Amendelo should happen now.
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Do they have the cap? Franchise Tag and signing Vasquez
hmmm good point I forgot about the Vasquez deal today
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I like the idea of Goldson signing with my Bucs a lot. Sure the dude is over-rated, but he is a pretty damn big improvement over what we have currently in place.
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I like the idea of Goldson signing with my Bucs a lot. Sure the dude is over-rated, but he is a pretty damn big improvement over what we have currently in place.
I'm just hoping it's not too much. Dominik usually does a good job when it comes to the financial terms of a contract frontloading the first 2 years guranteed and if things don't work out in the back end, well, we can get out of it without a cap hit.

I'm not saying I'm 100% sold on Goldson. I like him as a player. Strikes fear and can be a ball hawk, but I'm not sure he's worthy of an 8 million a year contract. I think Jarius Byrd is clearly a better FS.
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I think Jarius Byrd is clearly a better FS.
You would be correct.
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For the people who are complaining about deals in free agency, I'll use Bryant and Kruger as examples because they're Browns and I'm familiar with it.

There is market value and teams competing for these players, if they come in and are solid starters and contributors especially as we make the switch from a 3-4 to a 4-3 it's worth it. Does anyone really think someone like Flacco is worth 20 million a year average? No... It's what was had to be paid to retain him though based on the market.
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Agreed, but here's the thing: The Bills franchised Byrd, so he's not an option for us.
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Agreed, but here's the thing: The Bills franchised Byrd, so he's not an option for us.
It better turn into a longterm contract. Just saying...
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For the people who are complaining about deals in free agency, I'll use Bryant and Kruger as examples because they're Browns and I'm familiar with it.

There is market value and teams competing for these players, if they come in and are solid starters and contributors especially as we make the switch from a 3-4 to a 4-3 it's worth it. Does anyone really think someone like Flacco is worth 20 million a year average? No... It's what was had to be paid to retain him though based on the market.
No. They overpaid.

Flacco has taken the Ravens to 3 AFC Title Games and won them a Super Bowl. Was a Lee Evans drop away from a Super Bowl last year.

Yes. Flacco was worth it. Also, he's a franchise QB and a very good one.

Browns overpaid for Kruegar. He struggled in the abscence of Terrell Suggs. He performed very well down the stretch and into the post season. But He's going to a defense not nearly as good as Baltimores.
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Agreed, but here's the thing: The Bills franchised Byrd, so he's not an option for us.
Oh I know. I'm just stating.

Although guys will think twice about going over the middle. Barron and Goldson would be a fearsome duo.
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For the people who are complaining about deals in free agency, I'll use Bryant and Kruger as examples because they're Browns and I'm familiar with it.

There is market value and teams competing for these players, if they come in and are solid starters and contributors especially as we make the switch from a 3-4 to a 4-3 it's worth it. Does anyone really think someone like Flacco is worth 20 million a year average? No... It's what was had to be paid to retain him though based on the market.
People complaining about the size of these deals also forget that the rookie wage scale vastly decreases the amount of cap space teams need to allocate to sign their draft picks.

Gone are the days where teams with a top 10 pick needed to set aside a billion dollars just to sign their first round selection. Smaller rookie deals mean that a great portion of the cap can be allocated towards veteran free agents, which allows teams in need of help (usually those higher up on the draft board) to be more aggressive in pursuing players who can help improve their team. That, in turn, drives up the salaries of the veterans.
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No. They overpaid.

Flacco has taken the Ravens to 3 AFC Title Games and won them a Super Bowl. Was a Lee Evans drop away from a Super Bowl last year.

Yes. Flacco was worth it. Also, he's a franchise QB and a very good one.

Browns overpaid for Kruegar. He struggled in the abscence of Terrell Suggs. He performed very well down the stretch and into the post season. But He's going to a defense not nearly as good as Baltimores.
mmmmmm I'll say that with the Browns signings today they might have the best D in the AFC North
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mmmmmm I'll say that with the Browns signings today they might have the best D in the AFC North
Even better than Cincinatti's? Tend to disagree there.
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Get him on a plane to Seattle, I'll give you my credit card number.
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mmmmmm I'll say that with the Browns signings today they might have the best D in the AFC North
We have one good starting secondary player. So, no.
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We have one good starting secondary player. So, no.
TJ Ward isn't a good player?
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