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Old 03-13-2013, 07:46 PM    (permalink
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He's far from made of glass. The dude is unbelievably tough. He plays balls to the wall. I can't imagine what he will do with Brady.
His shoulders are made of glass.
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Mike Bennett is not as special as he thinks he is, or what he thinks he is worth on the open market. I don't see people banging down doors for him. Yes he is very solid against the run, but I'll still take Avril to make more of an impact on defense if i had to choose.
That would be foolish. Like I said, Bennett gets more pressure on the QB, and that's without having the best pass rushing pair of DTs in the NFL next to him drawing the blocks the way Avril had.

Your perception of Avril is out-of-whack with reality.
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1 year, worth up to $3 million.
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That would be foolish. Like I said, Bennett gets more pressure on the QB, and that's without having the best pass rushing pair of DTs in the NFL next to him the way Avril had.

Your perception of Avril is out-of-whack with reality.
I don't know which line you were watching from Detroit but Suh's play last year was welllll below average..
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That would be foolish. Like I said, Bennett gets more pressure on the QB, and that's without having the best pass rushing pair of DTs in the NFL next to him drawing the blocks the way Avril had.

Your perception of Avril is out-of-whack with reality.
So his production is discounted because he's consistently beat single-teams throughout his career?

This is a bogus line of thinking. The guy has above average pass rushing ability. That's evidenced by his production. Unless you can show me that many of his sacks have come from complete breakdowns where he gets in unabated, his production is legitimate.
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You are correct, and your memory is fine on this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pT6XziIQ5RI
so it was around the 24. I had said 35. Guess our memories aren't as ad as we thought.
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I don't know which line you were watching from Detroit but Suh's play last year was welllll below average..
True, but in passing situations blocking the interior of the Lions D-line is the first priority. Avril faces 1 on 1 matchups consistently and routinely gets pwned. With that being said, his speed is definitely an asset and if the attention is being given to Clemons and Mebane he can be a solid player.
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I don't know which line you were watching from Detroit but Suh's play last year was welllll below average..
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Injury prone weakside linebacker. Nothing to get excited about.

If anything, it reveals that Quincy Black's rehab may not be going as well as the Bucs would like.
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I don't know which line you were watching from Detroit but Suh's play last year was welllll below average..
Suh hit his career highs in both QB hits (more than any DT in five seasons) and pressures this season. His problems are all about blowing past runners on his way to the QB, but he was very good in rushing this season. He and Fairley drew the blockers away from Avril.
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Slap in the face to Welker IMO.
It sure seemed something personal was going on there between the Patriots and Welker.
Did Welker once speak without getting approval from Belichick beforehand?
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I don't know which line you were watching from Detroit but Suh's play last year was welllll below average..
That's not true at all. He had 8 sacks, and more qb hits than any DT in the league. A lot more. In fact while Geno had more sacks, Suh had roughly 12 more qb hits than Geno on the season. He was a very disruptive force this year.

People expect Suh to have a game like he did against Texas every game and it's just not fair to him. He has been very good. His perception is effected by him being a giant douche, but the guy is a hell of a player.
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It sure seemed something personal was going on there between the Patriots and Welker.
Did Welker once speak without getting approval from Belichick beforehand?
Everything is cleared through Gisele, you know that.

Personally he seemed to slip a little in big games the last year or two and he'll be 32 in May. For me this isn't a tough one to analyze.
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So his production is discounted because he's consistently beat single-teams throughout his career?

This is a bogus line of thinking. The guy has above average pass rushing ability. That's evidenced by his production. Unless you can show me that many of his sacks have come from complete breakdowns where he gets in unabated, his production is legitimate.
The problem is that he doesn't consistently beat the single teams. He did not get very many pressures per rushing snap. He's the poster boy for people mistakenly using the the sack statistic as a gauge of quarterback disruption.
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So his production is discounted because he's consistently beat single-teams throughout his career?

This is a bogus line of thinking. The guy has above average pass rushing ability. That's evidenced by his production. Unless you can show me that many of his sacks have come from complete breakdowns where he gets in unabated, his production is legitimate.
Remember when Ray Edwards did the same thing? How did that turn out?
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Speaking of Lions DTs, what do you Lions fans think of Sammie Lee Hill?
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Mike Bennett = 9th in QB disruptions per pass snap

Cliff Avril = 40th in QB disruptions per pass snap

But somehow the narrative is that Bennett is kind of an "ok" guy and that Avril is disruptive.
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Abril only got 2 years. Strange.

Sammie Lee Hill is awesome against the run. If he can keep his weight under control, he'll do fantastic in TN.
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I think Avril will add some depth but he isn't going to be the answer to their pass rush issues. Might mean Chris Clemons days might be numbered if he doesn't come back 100%.

I thought they might have gone after a Connor Barwin who I think has more upside than Cliff Avril.
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So the Pats are going to have no choice but to keep Lloyd in 3 days right? You can't have Amendola as your only WR because he's probably going to miss 4-8 games and it seems like rookie WR's struggle in their system so not sure they want to rely on a rookie. How much money do they have available? I thought Jennings would make a ton of sense.
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So the Pats are going to have no choice but to keep Lloyd in 3 days right? You can't have Amendola as your only WR because he's probably going to miss 4-8 games and it seems like rookie WR's struggle in their system so not sure they want to rely on a rookie. How much money do they have available? I thought Jennings would make a ton of sense.
Actually Lloyd has pretty much been expected to be released anyday now. No way were paying him 3 million next year. Just wasn't what we were looking for. I think Jennings makes sense but I doubt we'll spend the money.
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