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Old 03-14-2013, 07:25 PM    (permalink
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Neither can't hold a candle to Clemons as a pass-rusher though. More bodies but neither are great fits as a Leo. Clemons was damn near perfect. Bennett helps your run defense, that I'll give you, but he's average as a pass-rusher.
It was the best case scenario for what they were dealt. Clemons tore his ACL, and they don't have a 1st. All things considered they are much better off with these guys on board and I'm pretty sure Clemons will be able to contribute in a part time role for the playoffs.
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I thought the 2 day ordeal with Mario Williams last year was eternity....but what STL and Jake Long are doing is just straight cordial dating.
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I don't know why the Rams aren't interested in any receivers. Right now our WR depth is....

Chris Givens - Brian Quick - Austin Pettis

You would think they'd have interest in a guy like Jennings.
G and Wideout for them in the draft?
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I don't know why the Rams aren't interested in any receivers. Right now our WR depth is....

Chris Givens - Brian Quick - Austin Pettis

You would think they'd have interest in a guy like Jennings.
2-3 years ago, I couldn't understand why they didn't bring in James Jones.
Now, you're right, Jennings would be a great addition.
But letting Jackson go.... they may be thinking of 2, 3 years away, not right away. Jennings is about to be 30 already.
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I don't know why the Rams aren't interested in any receivers. Right now our WR depth is....

Chris Givens - Brian Quick - Austin Pettis

You would think they'd have interest in a guy like Jennings.
I would love to see them get a combo of Patterson and then Warmack/Cooper in the draft. I like what STL is doing.
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Neither can't hold a candle to Clemons as a pass-rusher though. More bodies but neither are great fits as a Leo. Clemons was damn near perfect. Bennett helps your run defense, that I'll give you, but he's average as a pass-rusher.
Avril is an ideal LEO.
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2-3 years ago, I couldn't understand why they didn't bring in James Jones.
Now, you're right, Jennings would be a great addition.
But letting Jackson go.... they may be thinking of 2, 3 years away, not right away. Jennings is about to be 30 already.
they were 2-1-1 against Seattle and San Francisco. with 3 early picks and bringing in Jake Long (allegedly) why wouldn't they think they can win that division.
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It was the best case scenario for what they were dealt. Clemons tore his ACL, and they don't have a 1st. All things considered they are much better off with these guys on board and I'm pretty sure Clemons will be able to contribute in a part time role for the playoffs.
I doubt Clemons is still on the roster by them. They're great deals, don't get me wrong. Leaves them great cap leverage when its time to extend guys like Russ and Thomas. But talent wise, I dont believe either is better than Clemons. Together they equal Clemons, which leaves them right where they were. They now have depth, which is great but they've only slightly addressed their main issue, which was stopping the run. They'll probably ask Bennett to play the role Jones did. Not sure how he'll fair when they move him inside like they did Jones on a occassion. Depending what they do with Branch and addressing their interior, I feel they're slightly worst at rushing the passer and exactly where they were against the run if no other moves are made.
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I doubt Clemons is still on the roster by them. They're great deals, don't get me wrong. Leaves them great cap leverage when its time to extend guys like Russ and Thomas. But talent wise, I dont believe either is better than Clemons. Together they equal Clemons, which leaves them right where they were. They now have depth, which is great but they've only slightly addressed their main issue, which was stopping the run. They'll probably ask Bennett to play the role Jones did. Not sure how he'll fair when they move him inside like they did Jones on a occassion. Depending what they do with Branch and addressing their interior, I feel they're slightly worst at rushing the passer and exactly where they were against the run if no other moves are made.
Clemons was never great in the run game either. This keeps Irvin from being a starter, which was the main concern.
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Avril is an ideal LEO.
We'll just have to disagree. A. Davis, who is arguably the worst player on our O-Line, has owned Avril for two years now. I can't imagine what Staley has in store for him. Avril has just never really impressed me as a pass-rusher just from a casual observer's perspective. And he's invisible versus the run so there's that too. We'll see...
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Clemons was never great in the run game either. This keeps Irvin from being a starter, which was the main concern.
He was better than ppl gave him credit for. But Carroll rarely asks the Leo to do anything but get upfield. And at that, Clemons is definitely better than both. Bennett is excellent against the run...but that's as a DE.
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I don't know why the Rams aren't interested in any receivers. Right now our WR depth is....

Chris Givens - Brian Quick - Austin Pettis

You would think they'd have interest in a guy like Jennings.
Jeff Fisher is your coach, no one devalues the WR position in the league like him. I remember rolling out starting lineups with Courtney Roby, Brandon Jones and Justin Gage...... Dem was the days.
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Yeah but you guys never had a 50 million dollar Quarterback. Get Sam weapons! Been asking for that for 3 years now. It's amazing.
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He was better than ppl gave him credit for. But Carroll rarely asks the Leo to do anything but get upfield. And at that, Clemons is definitely better than both. Bennett is excellent against the run...but that's as a DE.
Well no, I'm not saying he's Bruce Irvin against the run...but it was most definitely NOT his specialty. I do think the Avril signing is a little bit more hyped up than it should be and personally would have thrown a 1 year deal at Abraham, but I'm not getting paid millions to make decisions like that.
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Yeah but you guys never had a 50 million dollar Quarterback. Get Sam weapons! Been asking for that for 3 years now. It's amazing.
McNair was a fairly decent QB
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McNair was a fairly decent QB
Oh no doubt, but the Titans never invested 50 million dollars in him. Not saying "hey sam is better than Mcnair" no. Just saying, you invest that much money into a Franchise Quarterback, you should get him weapons.
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Remember when you said he was an elite pass rusher after the Packers game last year?
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McNair was a fairly decent QB
Don't you know it's fashionable to bash Titans QBs.
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McNair was a top flight QB and VY got paid like one. Jeff has almost a 15 year history of ignoring the position.
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