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Old 01-02-2014, 11:51 AM    (permalink
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Mixed feelings on this. On the one hand, we clearly overpaid. But everyone overpays for quaterbacks, and it's not my money so what do I care?

I think we could win a Superbowl with Jay in the next 4-5 years (I don't think we will, but it's possible), so to that end I am ok with rolling with him instead of desperately looking for another QB in the first two rounds of this draft and starting over.

Basically I was swayed by the Bills fans. I don't want to become the Bills....
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Signing him is a lot better than not signing him. He's a good QB and keeps the Bears competitive for the foreseeable future. They just need to improve the defense. The length of the contract is confusing, but we don't know the numbers and structure of it yet.
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You guys that have QB needs are just mad that Josh McCown has already said he wants to resign with Chicago and move his family here.
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Old 01-02-2014, 11:58 AM    (permalink
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Signing him is a lot better than not signing him. He's a good QB and keeps the Bears competitive for the foreseeable future. They just need to improve the defense. The length of the contract is confusing, but we don't know the numbers and structure of it yet.
This is the key. Once we find out how the contract is structured and how much guaranteed, we'll be able to decide if it was good or not. If it was a lot of guaranteed money and very cap friendly per year, allowing us to revamp the defense with some younger talent this year and next, great.
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Im so glad people on this board are finally getting over the rabid Cutler love.
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Cutler is a slightly better Rex Grossman, I have zero faith in that guy.
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Im so glad people on this board are finally getting over the rabid Cutler love.
This was never a thing. I don't know why anyone says it was.
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This was never a thing. I don't know why anyone says it was.
It was a thing. Cutler got hot once a couple of years ago and everyone was raving about how great he was for putting up with that offensive line and blahblahblah.
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This was never a thing. I don't know why anyone says it was.
Because it absolutely was. Every sunday I used to have it out with *** orc and several other posters about whether or not Cutler was some great QB. Usually it was always Martz's fault or what not and that he had enormous potential to grow as a player. It absolutely was a thing.
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Because it absolutely was. Every sunday I used to have it out with *** orc and several other posters about whether or not Cutler was some great QB. Usually it was always Martz's fault or what not and that he had enormous potential to grow as a player. It absolutely was a thing.
Yeah, the Cutler obsession has gone back since I've been a member of this board...
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Because it absolutely was. Every sunday I used to have it out with *** orc and several other posters about whether or not Cutler was some great QB. Usually it was always Martz's fault or what not and that he had enormous potential to grow as a player. It absolutely was a thing.
I do remember this, there were Bears fans that were very excited to finally have an NFL-level QB and wanted to believe he was going to lead us to the promise land.

And to be fair, it was equally combated with people saying that Cutler is a below average NFL QB, which is just non-sense. Mind you, not below average starting QB, just a below average QB in general. It was just as annoying.
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Shanny Cutler and Marshall a great combo.
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I do remember this, there were Bears fans that were very excited to finally have an NFL-level QB and wanted to believe he was going to lead us to the promise land.

And to be fair, it was equally combated with people saying that Cutler is a below average NFL QB, which is just non-sense. Mind you, not below average starting QB, just a below average QB in general. It was just as annoying.
Sure, and I probably fall into that latter category of underselling him. For me, as much as I bash Smith, I'd rather take a mediocre ball protector than a mediocre gun slinger who can at times make some beautiful throws but than other times just makes mind numbing interceptions.

Either way, this board did absolutely have a very large pro Cutler base for awhile around here.
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Honestly, if the Bills gave Cutler a $100M deal, I would have no problem with it. In fact, I'd be ecstatic. You guys are so spoiled. Ditto for any other QB that can consistently provide at least average play. Bills almost definitely make the playoffs this year with Cutler. SOLD!
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Yeah, I'm hardly a Cutler fan, but the anti-Cutler crowd has always seemed to be more vocal, if not larger, than the pro-Cutler crowd.
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Well, it's probably 120M...
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Well, it's probably 120M...
I'm fine with up to ~Romo money. And who cares about the total? It's all about the guaranteed dollars and when you can cut them without incurring a monster cap hit.
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Cutler's a good QB to have on a bad offense. Whether he plays on a bad or good offense he puts up roughly the same league average type numbers.
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Cutler's a good QB to have on a bad offense. Whether he plays on a bad or good offense he puts up roughly the same league average type numbers.
Cutler would be amazing if he cut back on stupid decisions. He will play a solid game, then just ******* heave a ball into double coverage because why not?

He has a great arm and makes some spectacular throws, he just makes a lot of dumb decisions.
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Especially when it's a 30 year old getting a 7 year contract.
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I do remember this, there were Bears fans that were very excited to finally have an NFL-level QB and wanted to believe he was going to lead us to the promise land.

And to be fair, it was equally combated with people saying that Cutler is a below average NFL QB, which is just non-sense. Mind you, not below average starting QB, just a below average QB in general. It was just as annoying.
I certainly meant starting QB, not overall.
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Cutler would be amazing if he cut back on stupid decisions. He will play a solid game, then just ******* heave a ball into double coverage because why not?

He has a great arm and makes some spectacular throws, he just makes a lot of dumb decisions.
yep, since 2006 so I don't think it's too reasonable to expect change. I can definitely envision Cutler putting together a truly amazing year if all the dominos go right though. one of these seasons.
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yep, since 2006 so I don't think it's too reasonable to expect change. I can definitely envision Cutler putting together a truly amazing year if all the dominos go right though. one of these seasons.
He had some pretty abysmal receiving help until the past couple years in Chicago... Imagine if Chicago could land a legit slot receiver to what they already have, they would be deadly.
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So where does Michael Vick end up? He's the only one even remotely in the starting QB conversation assuming McCown either returns to the Bears or retires.

Edit: I guess you could consider Matt Schaub a redemption project too.
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