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Smitty on the trade block. I don't care if the Browns overpay. I want one of my favorite players of all time to finish his career in Cleveland and show the young stars how it's done.
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He's more like Manny Lawson as an athlete, but I think the Gholston comment was about bustability. Lawson is still starting in the NFL 8 seasons after being drafted. That's VERY different than Gholston.
Still dont like it. Dion will find a niche, and it should be in that like lawson has. Hes BUILT like a 34 OLB, but his skill set is much better suited to 43 OLB

I guess they are all "Big 3-4 OLBS" but Gholston was a whole different kind of big
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He's more like Manny Lawson as an athlete, but I think the Gholston comment was about bustability. Lawson is still starting in the NFL 8 seasons after being drafted. That's VERY different than Gholston.
To be fair, Jordan already has 2 more sacks than Gholston had in his (three year) career. Obviously he's not setting the world on fire (though I agree with those who are saying he's being misused) but Gholston was an absolutely monumental bust. It's hard to reach that level of bad.
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The Bears just cut Dante Rosario, 11 days after re-signing him. He was a good blocker last season in really limited playing time.

I imagine this can only mean that they have agreement with someone else that will be announced on Tuesday. Probably Jimmy Graham, right?

edit: Michael bush is also gone, as expected.

edit2: Adam Schefter says the Bears are trying to trade Julius Peppers. That's pretty silly. Everyone knows he's getting cut.

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With some big contracts coming up, I like that the majority of Bennetts cap hut will be this season, and if he gets cut after 2015, there's no dead money.
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Please God no. No offense, but if we have to send Smitty off, we can do him better than Cleveland. I probably would mind seeing him in New England.

In other news, Gettleman is one cold-hearted bastard. I know we still have cap problems, but I want Smith to play his entire career as a Panther. Carolina fans will flip **** if a trade actually goes through.
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Isn't he really a nickel DT and a backup DE if Chris Clemons gets hurt?
He rotates from DE/DT depending on if it's a run or pass situation.

Clemons will likely be cut or restructured.
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Smith is not the same player he was. If he was still that good, the Panthers wouldn't be cutting/trading him for a late-round pick.
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He'd still be a damned fine #2 receiver.
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I hate to see Peppers get cut. I wish they could restructure. Bennett isn't that much better anyway.
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He'd still be a damned fine #2 receiver.
I'm not so sure. He's slowed down considerably. The Panthers badly need receivers - if they thought Smith could play they'd keep him.

These types of releases always happen. An aging, big-name guy gets let go and everyone wants him to go their team. Think Ed Reed last year. Well there's a reason he was let go...
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I hate to see Peppers get cut. I wish they could restructure. Bennett isn't that much better anyway.
Dunno how you feel about PFF, but Peppers was a -4.4 and Bennett was a +36.2. Graded out worlds better against the run and at getting pressure.
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I'm not so sure. He's slowed down considerably. The Panthers badly need receivers - if they thought Smith could play they'd keep him.

These types of releases always happen. An aging, big-name guy gets let go and everyone wants him to go their team. Think Ed Reed last year. Well there's a reason he was let go...
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Dunno how you feel about PFF, but Peppers was a -4.4 and Bennett was a +36.2. Graded out worlds better against the run and at getting pressure.
I don't mind PFF, but their DE grading methodology and PR productivity stats are just a disaster. There are a myriad of reasons for this:

1) DE rushing technique variations (stunting makes it much more likely to get a "pressure")

2) Overweighting of "pressures" and hits (by their metrics they occur almost every other pass play, they maybe tangibly effect a play 1/3-1/2 of those times) to account for .75 of a sack in their grading. A sack is always a negative play for an offense, whereas pressures can have a wide variety of results. Not to mention how incredibly arbitrary the designation of a pressure is.

3) Players who rush from the left side grade higher typically than those on the right side because it is easier to get a "pressure" when the QB is facing you.
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Anquan Boldin.
Anquan Boldin is a huge possession receiver who doesn't get/need separation to be effective.

Smith is a small quickness/speed guy.

Boldin's basically a TE outside. He's not running by anyone. Smith needs to.

Again, why are the Panthers cutting him if they think he can be an effective second option? When they have literally 0 receivers on the roster? A team that won 12 games last year and is entering the prime of their star QB's career - a QB who knows and had a rapport with Smith.

They clearly don't think he can be that.
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So Alex Mack's agent is saying he's confident Mack will get an offer the Browns won't match. Peter King says he doesn't get that sort of offer.

Wut wille happin?

**** off killswitch, leave ma alone.
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So Alex Mack's agent is saying he's confident Mack will get an offer the Browns won't match. Peter King says he doesn't get that sort of offer.

Wut wille happin?

**** off killswitch, leave ma alone.
i'm surprised there's been no rumors of the giants willing to give him a nice monster offer. Makes me think we're confident we'll get Verner or Linval Joseph.

Or we really like Dietrich-Smith
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