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Old 05-20-2014, 11:18 AM    (permalink
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Anytime you get the opportunity to get Michael Egnew, BJ Cunningham, Dion Sims and I'm too lazy to keep checking this stupid chain of picks for Brandon Marhsall, you gotta do it.
I personally am a huge fan of the Dolphins expensive downgrade style of personnel management.

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Speaking of hard drug use, the Packers signed former Oregon TE Colt Lyerla, who went undrafted.
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Are people really sold on the Hoyer hype train? Looking at the 2 games he played last year they weren't anything exceptional and certainly not at a Kevin Kolb 2 game level of production
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ainst-manziel/

I dunno why Florio is so quick to denounce it as a hoax. Seems pretty much a stone-cold-lock-of-the-century-of-the-week that this all happened.

Lifetime ban plz, Roger.
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#Seahawks have waived 6th-round pick Garrett Scott because of a rare heart condition. Signed his rookie deal yesterday. That's rough



The Seahawks elected to sign him and release him, so he will receive his signing bonus and get medical insurance for the year.
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I dunno why Florio is so quick to denounce it as a hoax. Seems pretty much a stone-cold-lock-of-the-century-of-the-week that this all happened.

Lifetime ban plz, Roger.
Imagine if by some miracle that lawsuit is true. That might ve the greatest thing.
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The Scott news makes it seem like the Seahawks didn't really do their homework on him before making their pick. We always hear about these extremely rigorous medical examinations at the Combine, which are ostensibly designed to ensure that any players teams draft will actually be able to pass their physicals.
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The Scott news makes it seem like the Seahawks didn't really do their homework on him before making their pick. We always hear about these extremely rigorous medical examinations at the Combine, which are ostensibly designed to ensure that any players teams draft will actually be able to pass their physicals.
I don't think Scott was invited to the combine. But I don't think that every team gives every player they might draft a full physical.
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I don't think Scott was invited to the combine. But I don't think that every team gives every player they might draft a full physical.
Good call on him not being invited to the Combine, I guess it's possible that the same types of medical tests don't happen at pro days. Personally, though, I think teams should probably stick to players they've had a chance to clear medically. If we accept the metaphor that players are used cars (running backs have a lot of tread, quarterbacks have a lot of mileage on their arms, etc.), a team's doctors are the mechanics. Would you buy a car without an inspection when there are plenty of draftable guys you've looked at?
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Good call on him not being invited to the Combine, I guess it's possible that the same types of medical tests don't happen at pro days. Personally, though, I think teams should probably stick to players they've had a chance to clear medically. If we accept the metaphor that players are used cars (running backs have a lot of tread, quarterbacks have a lot of mileage on their arms, etc.), a team's doctors are the mechanics. Would you buy a car without an inspection when there are plenty of draftable guys you've looked at?
You are right, teams should totally give full physicals to at least a hundred players.
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You are right, teams should totally give full physicals to at least a hundred players.
Why is giving a full physical to five prospects per visit a big deal for an NFL franchise???
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Why is giving a full physical to five prospects per visit a big deal for an NFL franchise???
It's a sixth round draft pick. You are talking about hundreds of potential players being drafted. You can't give every one of them an intense physical.
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more than 2/3 of those will already have physicals from the combine, I don't see any reason why the team can't do the rest
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I think they new about it, but wanted to help the kid out...
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Imagine if by some miracle that lawsuit is true. That might ve the greatest thing.
That's exactly what I was thinking. Really, no single part of this lawsuit (that I've read, anyway) is unbelievable. It only sounds insane when you put it all together.

Also, I don't remember Florio ever going so far out of his way to state that allegations != fact. He must be on the JFF bandwagon.
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Speaking after Tuesday's OTAs session, Percy Harvin said "this is probably the best I've felt since before college."
Harvin walked a fine line of health his first three years in the league before combining to miss 22 games the past two seasons. Banged up throughout the Seahawks' postseason run, Harvin played only 29 snaps in Super Bowl 48. Harvin is perhaps the league's most lethal player with the ball in his hands, but it's possible the injuries are beginning to take a toll. Harvin turns 26 on Wednesday.
Source: Seahawks on Twitter May 27 - 4:50 PM
Odds he plays more than 10 games this year?
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The Rams signed guard Davin Joseph. He's very good but has injury problems. He also has a phone book (backwards) name.
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The Rams signed guard Davin Joseph. He's very good but has injury problems. He also has a phone book (backwards) name.


Hopefully he is back to near 100%. I think last year he was still feeling the effects of his ACL injury from the prior year. Those things can take longer for some people (hope that's not the case for Jake Long or Sam Bradford)
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Harvin will find a way to get hurt. I'll go 11 games played but with nagging injuries in 6 of those. I'll hamstring.
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You are right, teams should totally give full physicals to at least a hundred players.
You do know there's an event called the NFL Combine in which hundreds of prospects undergo rigorous medical testing, right? There shouldn't be that many more draftable prospects besides those guys, considering pro teams vote on which players should be invited to the Combine; if you think a player's draftable, invite them to the Combine where a disqualifying medical condition which would save you hundreds of thousands of dollars and a draft pick would be identified. If you think there are a few players who should have been invited but weren't, especially if you're targeting them in the draft, bring them in for official visits, where medical examinations are permitted.
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A huge part of the scouting process is evaluating injury risk with players. That's why size and body type are important. Draftnik's don't have access to the studies and medical side of what goes on. So it's tough to give the benefit of the doubt to the Seahawks for not knowing about this beforehand. You do extensive background checks for character - this should have been known about... I think. The other side of the coin is that it's such a rare condition that who knows if it was just dumb luck that the doctors even found it. I don't know - it's tough to play doctor on the internet. Maybe they DID have his medical records (probably) and there was simply no indication of this issue. Either way, it's a lesson learned that cost a 6th-round pick.
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Angry Doug Baldwin agrees gets an extension.

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An added bonus to the Baldwin deal is that it gives the organization a selling point for UDFAs. They should continue to attract top UDFAs and paying Baldwin is one of the reasons why.
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I'm glad Baldwin is getting his. He was a badass his senior year but was a one year wonder so he went udfa. He has been good for the Seahawks and got rewarded accordingly.
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