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Old 08-26-2014, 01:49 PM    (permalink
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You guys keep making it sound like claiming Mallett would be like drafting him with the top pick. It doesn't mean **** other than they pick up a physically talented QB with system experience off of waivers after training camp to compete with easily the worst group of QBs in the NFL right now.
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ESPN is reporting the Patriots traded Mankins to the Bucs for Tim Wright and a draft pick,

Wow. That's sort of crazy. Also, I just picked up Tim Wright in my fantasy league.
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ESPN is reporting the Patriots traded Mankins to the Bucs for Tim Wright and a draft pick,

Wow. That's sort of crazy. Also, I just picked up Tim Wright in my fantasy league.
Seems like a reasonable exchange. Pats have some depth at OG and get to dump some $$$. Wright being more of a receiver than blocker probably works better in NE than Tampa. Bucs definitely needed the interior OL help.
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I'm usually never shocked by anything the Patriots do, but this is pretty ******* surprising.

Supposedly a fourth round pick. Mankins has been declining the past few years and is pretty overpaid at this point, but I wouldn't do that for anything less than a third and a player. That would be selling low too. We really don't have a ton of depth at interior line either. Left Guard was really one of the few sure things we had going, even. Solder has looked bad in camp this year, our center play is habitually bad, and Vollmer is hurt again.

Going to take awhile to digest this one.
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Seems like a reasonable exchange. Pats have some depth at OG and get to dump some $$$. Wright being more of a receiver than blocker probably works better in NE than Tampa. Bucs definitely needed the interior OL help.
The Pats have bodies, but I wouldn't call it "depth" when Connolly and Wendell are still starting and were dog crap last year. I do think this could work out really well for them, though. Mankins was on a sizable contract and is nearing his end while Wright is cheap and was productive in 2013. For a receiving TE, catching 50+ balls for ~11ypc in Tampa could translate to a Pro Bowler with the Pats.
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And they get themselves their 38th Rutgers player.
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Posted this thought in the Pats forum already, but there's a real niche to be claimed for an undersized receiving tight end in our offense. I thought DJ Williams would be that guy, but his inability to stay healthy shoved him out the door. We must REALLY like Wright, for whatever reason. We've hit on acquiring younger players on the rise from teams before...but I don't know.

Can't say I caught a ton of Bucs games last year.
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Meanwhile Eli is dying behind our OL, and our front office is just chillin chewing bubble gum.
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Posted this thought in the Pats forum already, but there's a real niche to be claimed for an undersized receiving tight end in our offense. I thought DJ Williams would be that guy, but his inability to stay healthy shoved him out the door. We must REALLY like Wright, for whatever reason. We've hit on acquiring younger players on the rise from teams before...but I don't know.

Can't say I caught a ton of Bucs games last year.
DJ Williams is a blocking TE. Wright is "new to the position" being a converted WR, but has already shown himself to be a productive NFL player. He's athletic, and I'm pretty optimistic about him at the moment. He could solve a lot of the problems on that offense.
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The Pats have bodies, but I wouldn't call it "depth" when Connolly and Wendell are still starting and were dog crap last year.
I was thinking Cannon and/or Kline on the inside, though that does create other problems.
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DJ Williams apparently isn't an NFL caliber tight end if he's still bouncing around, but a 4.5 40 and a history of receiving production in college say that wasn't his skillset. Literally everyone had written about him as a potential receiving tight end in this offense. It's a moot point given that he's gone now, but he absolutely was not brought in for his potential as a blocker.
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We don't really have depth. Our line was shaky to begin with, and now were trading a way one of our best players (declining tho he was, we need some stability for Brady this season). Really tired of this team leaving our franchise top 5 qb hanging out to dry every season. Line is a super serious concern for us right now, like, why?
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Shut up Patriot fans. You go 12-4 every year. Suck my salty balls.

You know ILU all. But you get what I'm saying.
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DJ Williams apparently isn't an NFL caliber tight end if he's still bouncing around, but a 4.5 40 and a history of receiving production in college say that wasn't his skillset. Literally everyone had written about him as a potential receiving tight end in this offense. It's a moot point given that he's gone now, but he absolutely was not brought in for his potential as a blocker.
He had some production as a receiver, but his strength was always as a blocker (despite being on the shorter side). I'm not sure why people thought he was going to be much of a receiver in the NFL. The type of production he had in college wasn't very translatable to the NFL, imo.
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Wright hasn't killed anyone either. Thats a plus.
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They're all busy scouting wide receivers that can't run option routes.

Got a long and storied tradition to uphold.
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Or Linebackers who can't play football. Or project OLmen who suck.
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DJ Williams apparently isn't an NFL caliber tight end if he's still bouncing around, but a 4.5 40 and a history of receiving production in college say that wasn't his skillset. Literally everyone had written about him as a potential receiving tight end in this offense. It's a moot point given that he's gone now, but he absolutely was not brought in for his potential as a blocker.
Packer fan here. Can confirm, DJ Williams isn't an NFL player. The Packers use TEs interchangeably with FBs so a player with his stature, athletic ability, and supposed skillset should have been a perfect fit. He couldn't cut it.
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Or Linebackers who can't play football. Or project OLmen who suck.
The fans of the 29 NFL teams who haven't won multiple Superbowls this millennium surely sympathize with you.....
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This is true. I am spoiled.
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So the unexpectedness of the Mankins trade comes in part because the Pats asked him to take a pay cut, and he said "no."

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...e-trading-him/
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Gotta clear that cap space for Revis I guess.
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