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Please feel free to go and sign any 2 of the following 3 FAs:

RT Jared Gaither (if our medical staff clears him)
LG Carl Nicks
CB Nnamdi Asomughua

Cut:

Jeff Faine
Earnest Graham (maybe bring him back at a better value)

And bring some of these kids into camp:

OLB Mark Herzlich
WR DeAndre Brown
OL Carl Johnson
S DeAndre McDaniel
S Deunta Williams
WR Terrance Tolliver
S Will Hill
RB John Clay
RB Derrick Locke
FB Henry Hynoski
TE Konrad Reuland
P Chas Henry
K Kai Forbath
LB Mario Harvey
QB Jerrod Johnson
CB Kendric Burney


Don't resign:

Caddy
Stovall
Trueblood (if you can get Gaither)
Gilmore (Stocker replaced him)

Resign:

Ruud (if he is cool with make Top 15 money, not Top 5 $)
Joseph (same as above)
Hayward

Thanks.

Love,

Bull

XOXO
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I don't think he reads this forum :D
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Please feel free to go and sign any 2 of the following 3 FAs:

RT Jared Gaither (if our medical staff clears him)
LG Carl Nicks
CB Nnamdi Asomughua

Cut:

Jeff Faine
Earnest Graham (maybe bring him back at a better value)

And bring some of these kids into camp:

OLB Mark Herzlich
WR DeAndre Brown
OL Carl Johnson
S DeAndre McDaniel
S Deunta Williams
WR Terrance Tolliver
S Will Hill
RB John Clay
RB Derrick Locke
FB Henry Hynoski
TE Konrad Reuland
P Chas Henry
K Kai Forbath
LB Mario Harvey
QB Jerrod Johnson
CB Kendric Burney


Don't resign:

Caddy
Stovall
Trueblood (if you can get Gaither)
Gilmore (Stocker replaced him)

Resign:

Ruud (if he is cool with make Top 15 money, not Top 5 $)
Joseph (same as above)
Hayward

Thanks.

Love,

Bull

XOXO
Resign Joseph is a must and either Black or Ruud. Can't lose 2 starting LBs.

If we go after a RT, go after Claboo from Atlanta. Not only do we steal him away from a division rival, but he's a quality RT in this league.

Don't go after Aso. He's a top 1-2 CB, but I'm not willing to pay him 19 mil a year for a CB. Go after Josh Wilson, CB from Baltimore. He'll come cheaper and he played very good last year.
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I doubt Jared Gaither is going to play RT anywhere next year. H wants to be a LT and his skillset is more suited for that anyway.
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Resign:
- Davin Joseph
- either Black or Ruud.
- Adam Heywerd
- Tim Crowder
- Ronde Barber (already signed)

UDFAS:
- Jeron Johnson FS Boise State
- Kendrick Burney CB UNC
- Mark Herzlich LB BC
- Derrick Locke RB Kentucky

FAS:
- Tyson Claboo RT
- Josh Wilson
- o-line depth
- Possibly Paul Posluszny?
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Eff Barrett Ruud, we can finish bottom 5 in rush defense with or without him. We've already proven we can be bad WITH him the past 2 1/4 years, it can't get much worse.... oh yeah, it can. We can give him a longterm deal and be stuck with him for the foreseeable future.
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Hey guys wanna sign Mark Herzlich?
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WHat do you think of signing Paul Posluszny to replace him?
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WHat do you think of signing Paul Posluszny to replace him?
I like the players we have. If they want to sign PP, that's up to them, but I'm comfortable with McKenzie, Black, or Foster if that is the guy that gets the nod.
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Please feel free to go and sign any 2 of the following 3 FAs:

RT Jared Gaither (if our medical staff clears him)
LG Carl Nicks
CB Nnamdi Asomughua

Cut:

Jeff Faine
Earnest Graham (maybe bring him back at a better value)

The Gaither signing doesn't make sense. I've been one of (if not) the biggest Trueblood haters but I'm finally starting to warm up to him. Our OL is becoming a cohesive unit, a bunch of players have come out and supported Trueblood returning, and he's a good fit for our new blocking scheme. We can get excellent value out of him and James Lee is also a capable starter who we don't have to worry about paying for a little while.

Nicks would be a dream signing but I don't expect him to be available.

I'll be excited if we sign Aso but I probably wouldn't do it if I was the GM. CB is far from a need position and we'll have an excellent young group of DBs without him. At the same time, he's one of the best in the game and would undoubtedly improve the team by a huge amount. If Dominik and co. plan out the extensions for the other key pieces and still find room for Aso...sign him up.

Why cut Jeff Faine? Yeah....injuries, blablabla, but he's our starting C and we have no one else. I think the organization values his veteran leadership and ability to make the line calls.

We don't need Graham anymore, that's for sure. I love the guy but we'd be better off with a shiftier back that can do damage after the catch on 3rd downs.


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Eff Barrett Ruud, we can finish bottom 5 in rush defense with or without him. We've already proven we can be bad WITH him the past 2 1/4 years, it can't get much worse.... oh yeah, it can. We can give him a longterm deal and be stuck with him for the foreseeable future.
I'm getting numb seeing all these "expert" Bucs fans swarming to Ruud's defense because of a few ill-informed NFL analyst types that never say a bad thing about anyone. Brian Billick thinks Ruud is a good run-stopper - good for him! Everyone has amnesia about the 1st half of the Washington game and countless smaller examples where Ruud just checks out of the game as it gets physical. Dude goes out of his way to avoid charging blockers in his gap and takes himself out of plays. Even when he makes a good read and closes the door on a runner, he gives him a soft hug and gets taken for a ride. We need to get teams in 3rd and longs to take advantage of our Talib,, Barber, TJax combo. That's the design of the defense. We can't be having a MLB that's getting dragged and instills no fear in the opposition. There are plenty of LBs that can hit and cover...every other team in our division has 1!

I'll be sick if I have to see Ruud in the starting lineup again.


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Hey guys wanna sign Mark Herzlich?
Actually no. I'd rather sign a player who actually has a shot of keeping up with the speed of the game. Herzlich will never be the same....he basically has 50 year old legs now. I feel bad for the guy and I wish him the best but I don't see him ever returning to form. Obviously NFL types feel the same way, otherwise they would've snapped up a productive, hard-working leader who was once a complete LB and potential 1st round pick.
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My predictions:

RG Davin Joseph - we overpay because we still make mistakes
OLB Quincy Black - really hope we bring him back
CB Ike Taylor - cheaper vet/ i want aso but DOUBT it
RT Tyson Clabo or OG Dahl/Blalock/Yanda - we sign one solid outside OL
WR Lance Moore - vet and we need a good slot
RB Darren Sproles or Reggie Bush - speed back that we all want

also likely to bring back Adam Heyward, Tim Crowder

EDIT: the more i think about it, i doubt we sign a CB this offseason. Talib should be good to go most of the season so next season is when we really need to worry with Barber retiring and Talib facing jail/suspension. I could see us just signing a top 3 FA CB next offseason.
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I'd like to see any signings we make cripple other teams in the NFC South. I guess that rules out Carl Nicks who has a 1st round tender but....

DE Charles Johnson would be fantastic. Very young and yes, we just drafted two DEs... one might be injured, neither have proven anything in the NFL... And here's the thing, you need 3 good DEs in the NFL. No DLineman plays 100% of the time, even if Bowers were completely healthy, we couldn't expect him to play more than 2/3 of all snaps. In a good rotation, 3 good DEs can get MORE than 2/3 of the snaps, especially if one can kick inside in the nickle. Taking Charles Johnson would not only give us an instant starting caliber DE that has experience in the T-2, but also enable Bowers AND Clayborn to have the time to grow into their positions in the NFL.

LB James Anderson-No, I don't think we need him, but he's good and because of his experience, speed, and knowledge of the T-2, he could likely play any of the 3 LB positions.

CB Brent Grimes-I believe he was assigned a 1st round restricted free agent tender... but if we think it's worth it, this kills two birds with one stone. #1 He shores up our CB position for the next several years (he's 28, combined with Talib for the next couple years, Myron Lewis, and EJ Biggers) but perhaps most importantly #2, he takes away Atlanta's best DB. Now I'm not completely sold on giving up a #1 on a 28 year old CB that is very good, but not elite so it's just a thought.

RB/FB Jason Snelling. A great receiving RB, he can fill in at RB or start at FB, taking him away takes away Turner's best and much needed backup. He's still fairly young with likely a lot of tread left on his tires.

Like Grimes, OG Carl Nicks was given a 1st round tender. He's very young and unlike my belief with most OGs, he might actually be worth it. He was the Saints best OLineman last season.... Still, we're talking a #1 for an OG... which goes against every bone in my body.

Outside the division I like...

DE Ray Edwards, if we can't get Johnson, Edwards would be a nice consolation plus it would keep him away from the Falcons.

RB Darren Sproles-the best (including Reggie Bush) 3rd down/change of pace RB available.

OT Doug Free-could be easily moved to his seemingly more natural side of RT and give us two solid bookends for years to come.

OG Marshal Yanda, the best unrestricted OG available. If we re-sign Joseph and sign Yanda, OG will be one area not of any concern to the Bucs.

DE Mark Anderson can play both sides and can probably be had cheaply. Not that we need cheap at this point.

DT Brandon Mebane is the best DT available and fits our style of D to a T. I loved him coming out of Cal 4 years ago and he has blossomed into an excellent one-gap DT. With Price likely being MIA this year, having Mebane as a fallback option would be nice.

LB Stephen Tulloch is easily the best MLB available. He makes plays and does it with a fairly nasty disposition. He's still young at 26 and although he is not very athletic, he is a tackling machine.

S Eric Weddle- the best safety available, he can play any of the 4 DB positions in a pinch but could be an ideal S for the Bucs, being able to play both FS and SS efficiently and seamlessly. Can tackle, run, cover, and make plays. We should have drafted him in 2007 instead of Sabby (except Weddle went early in round 2).

CB Joseph, Cromartie, Nnamdi, and yes, Chris Houston. Face it, we have to spend money and because 3rd year players can't have their contracts extended right now, we will likely have to spend on other players... what better place to throw away money than at CB? Truthfully, I don't think we need to if we upgrade our pass rush... so Chris Houston is a fantastic athlete, he's tough, and would be a huge upgrade over Elbert Mack.
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I'd like to see any signings we make cripple other teams in the NFC South. I guess that rules out Carl Nicks who has a 1st round tender but....

DE Charles Johnson would be fantastic. Very young and yes, we just drafted two DEs... one might be injured, neither have proven anything in the NFL... And here's the thing, you need 3 good DEs in the NFL. No DLineman plays 100% of the time, even if Bowers were completely healthy, we couldn't expect him to play more than 2/3 of all snaps. In a good rotation, 3 good DEs can get MORE than 2/3 of the snaps, especially if one can kick inside in the nickle. Taking Charles Johnson would not only give us an instant starting caliber DE that has experience in the T-2, but also enable Bowers AND Clayborn to have the time to grow into their positions in the NFL.

LB James Anderson-No, I don't think we need him, but he's good and because of his experience, speed, and knowledge of the T-2, he could likely play any of the 3 LB positions.

CB Brent Grimes-I believe he was assigned a 1st round restricted free agent tender... but if we think it's worth it, this kills two birds with one stone. #1 He shores up our CB position for the next several years (he's 28, combined with Talib for the next couple years, Myron Lewis, and EJ Biggers) but perhaps most importantly #2, he takes away Atlanta's best DB. Now I'm not completely sold on giving up a #1 on a 28 year old CB that is very good, but not elite so it's just a thought.

RB/FB Jason Snelling. A great receiving RB, he can fill in at RB or start at FB, taking him away takes away Turner's best and much needed backup. He's still fairly young with likely a lot of tread left on his tires.

Like Grimes, OG Carl Nicks was given a 1st round tender. He's very young and unlike my belief with most OGs, he might actually be worth it. He was the Saints best OLineman last season.... Still, we're talking a #1 for an OG... which goes against every bone in my body.

Outside the division I like...

DE Ray Edwards, if we can't get Johnson, Edwards would be a nice consolation plus it would keep him away from the Falcons.

RB Darren Sproles-the best (including Reggie Bush) 3rd down/change of pace RB available.

OT Doug Free-could be easily moved to his seemingly more natural side of RT and give us two solid bookends for years to come.

OG Marshal Yanda, the best unrestricted OG available. If we re-sign Joseph and sign Yanda, OG will be one area not of any concern to the Bucs.

DE Mark Anderson can play both sides and can probably be had cheaply. Not that we need cheap at this point.

DT Brandon Mebane is the best DT available and fits our style of D to a T. I loved him coming out of Cal 4 years ago and he has blossomed into an excellent one-gap DT. With Price likely being MIA this year, having Mebane as a fallback option would be nice.

LB Stephen Tulloch is easily the best MLB available. He makes plays and does it with a fairly nasty disposition. He's still young at 26 and although he is not very athletic, he is a tackling machine.

S Eric Weddle- the best safety available, he can play any of the 4 DB positions in a pinch but could be an ideal S for the Bucs, being able to play both FS and SS efficiently and seamlessly. Can tackle, run, cover, and make plays. We should have drafted him in 2007 instead of Sabby (except Weddle went early in round 2).

CB Joseph, Cromartie, Nnamdi, and yes, Chris Houston. Face it, we have to spend money and because 3rd year players can't have their contracts extended right now, we will likely have to spend on other players... what better place to throw away money than at CB? Truthfully, I don't think we need to if we upgrade our pass rush... so Chris Houston is a fantastic athlete, he's tough, and would be a huge upgrade over Elbert Mack.
I agree that we need another DE. White is 99.9% gone and Crowder/Bennett/Moore are too redundant and similar. Not sure I see us going after one of the top guys at the position though. Clayborn is gonna be the starter at RDE and that's what those guys would play in our system. Bowers and 2 of the 3 we already have is fine for the left side. Mark Anderson would be a realistic signing. He's a 1-year wonder but with our young draft picks he could fit in well as a pass rush specialist. We need an edge rusher that can threaten the outside a bit. That would help with our blitzing schemes and 4-man rush.

Falcons fans would love to get our first for Grimes. That'd be a huge mistake. Biggers and Lewis are much more talented. We have Barber right now and if we want to replace him next year (or later, who knows) we can check on Gaitor's development or get our guy when he retires. No sense bringing in a Barbe upgrade now, especially not for the cost. Keep in mind that we actually draft well so there's no sense spending a pick on a marginal player.

I want Bush but I have a gut feeling that Snelling will be a Buc. He's torn us up before, he's a big back which the staff loves, and he's a good receiver which we don't have. Seems like a near-lock, but we'll see.

I don't think the Cowboys will let Free slip, but if they do then that might be worth the splurge. It's not like he'll cost that much more than Trueblood. Trueblood probably brings more value though considering how he fits in the scheme and his chemistry with the team.

Mebane would be a quality signing but only if we're convinced that Price may never return to form. I remember how we all wanted Mebane years ago, but Gruden/Allen...

Weddle seems to be headed to one team already, forget which on though. I like him a lot though...his versatility has always been appealing, and we need insurance for TJax and Grimm.

I like Poz over Tulloch. Poz is what Ruud is supposed to be...solid in coverage, solid against the run, actually hits people.

You mention upgrading Elbert Mack, but Mack is all but gone. Gaitor is the 5th corner right now and I don't wanna see him get picked up somewhere else. Our CB situation is fine if Talib doesn't get suspended.


I don't approve of spending for "upgrades" in general. A lot of the positions you wanna sign are set with guys we already have in place. I'd rather spend the money on talented role players that can find a niche. I'd go for Reggie Bush, a good slot or big WR, a pass rushing specialist, etc. An OL or 2 wouldn't be a bad idea though...our line performed well; last year but durability and depth are huge concerns once again.
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