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Default UDFAs: The big list with mini-analysis of players available in the 8th round

Some are pretty good, some are marginal. What I look for most are players with the measurables or collegiate production that would give them a chance to make our roster. This is my master list of players that I hope the Bucs break the bank (so to speak-when it comes to bonuses for UDFAs) to get into camp. I believe a few have future star qualities. Final update has my top 100 UDFAs.

QB-7
Pat Devlin-fairly smart, accurate enough passer that could make a roster. Has just enough size (6’3 225) and athleticism (4.81) to make up for a below average arm.
Josh Portis-very athletic (4.59 40” VJ) with strong arm, could be a Wildcat QB. Has enough size (6’3 211) to play in the NFL.
Jeff Van Camp-Tampa area product with good size (6’5 215) and experience, should be in if the Bucs have a rookie tryout camp. More fleet afoot than one would think (4.83).
Adam Weber-Unheralded, little (6’1 209) with great athleticism (4.71 39” VJ) and strong arm.
Adam Froman-Not much experience, but good size (6’4 220) and feet (4.56).
Jerrod Johnson-Has Freeman-like athletic ability (4.75) and size (6’5 251) but with decidedly different results in college. Is a better athlete right now than QB.
Mike Hartline-Has good size (6’5 219) and athletic ability, not a great arm, but good experience and collegiate numbers. Other drawbacks include character and maturity questions.

HB-8
Derrick Locke-speedy change of pace back that excels in the passing game. Small, (5’8 190) but one of the fastest players in the draft (4.37).
Mario Fannin-jack of all trades with fantastic speed (4.37) and good receiving skills, plus has excellent size (5’10 230) and could see FB reps.
Noel Devine-diminutive (5’8 179) but explosive (4.43) change of pace runner, could be like Chiefs 2010 3rd rounder Dexter McCluster
Brandon Saine-intriguing measurables at 5’11 220 and runs 4.40. Can catch and run but never came close to carrying the load in college.
Nic Grigsby-Often injured in college, but very productive when on the field (nearly 3000 yards rushing, 500+ yards receiving, 31 TDs) . Injury prone, small (5’11 199) but extremely explosive (4.38 40 43.5” VJ). Could be a signing from out of nowhere that makes an impact if he can stay healthy.
Darren Evans-An Allen Bradford-type RB (6’0 227 4.56 40 35” VJ) physically. Was productive in spurts at VTech, posting a 1000 yard season as a true-freshman.
Donald Buckram-Injured for much of final season (only 8 games). During junior season he had over 2,000 yards rushing/receiving and 21 TDs and looked like a possible high round draft pick due to his speed and elusiveness (4.40 40). Is very athletic and slippery in the open field and is electric as a pass receiving threat. Downside is his injury history and size (5’9 194) but has the special qualities to be a change-of-pace runner/3rd down RB. Had almost 1,000 yards receiving in his collegiate career.
RB Jeremy Avery-who had nearly 3000 yards rushing, and nearly 800 yards receiving and 33 TDs. Smallish (5'9 181) but fast (4.40) and explosive (38" VJ).

FB-3
Henry Hynoski-big (6’ 257) lead blocker that doesn't offer much special teams, running, or receiving threat value (5.06).
Keith Payne-Big RB (6’2 257) that was a TD/goal-line machine for UVa. But a lack of speed (4.83) may doom him to FB.
John Clay-Big RB (6’1 233-though he had played around 250 in the past) and very productive in college. Likely too slow to continue playing RB (4.74-4.83).

WR-13
Ricardo Lockette-great speed (4.34) and good size (6’2 211), very raw but could become a downfield threat
Terrence Tolliver-Very good size (6’4 212), decent speed (4.52) big injury history.
Jeff Maehl- productive and quick, good slot WR option. Good size for slot (6’1 190) and one of the quickest 3 cone times in combine history (ran 4.56).
Dane Sanzenbacher-see Maehl but not as quick, tall (5’11 182), or as productive. Great hands and competitiveness.
Vidal Hazelton-lots of ability coming off an ACL injury, never produced in college despite size (6’2 218) and hype.
Armon Binns-Good hands, good size (6’3 210), ran better at combine than expected (4.50)
Andre Holmes-Small school product with big numbers and measurables (6’4 215, 4.45)
Kris Adams-Ultra-productive WR from UTEP (47 catches 1070 yards 14 tds in 2010, 50 958 14 in 2009) stands 6’4 195 lbs and runs 4.43 and jumps 39.5)
Darvin Adams-6’2 190 lbs (4.56) was very productive for the National Champions. (52-963-7)
Demario Ballard-Not a ton of production for Western Oregon but he stands 6’6 219 lbs and ran 4.49.
Joe Morgan-6’1 189 lber ran 4.38 for Walsh. He was moderately productive at WR but can help out on special teams right away.
DeMarco Sampson- (6’2 204) very productive his last season in college (67-1220-8) and had a good personal workout as well (4.41 and 35.5” VJ).
Raymond Webber-6’2 218 lb prospect from Arkansas-Pine Bluff is said to be liked by Bucs (per Pewter Report). He was monstrously productive (101-1429-10) in I-AA, leading the nation in catches, and has enough athletic ability and speed (4.50 10’06” LJ) to earn a shot at the NFL. His collegiate production is even more impressive considering the next most productive receiver on his team did very little (16-242-2). Webber produced 46.5% of his team’s receptions, 52.0% of their yards, and 47.6% of the team’s TD catches!

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DeAndre Brown (ex-WR)-6'6 233, runs well for his size (4.59), should be converted to TE
Schuyler Oordt-intriguing measurables at 6’5 261 running a 4.63 at the combine.
Weslye Saunders-supposedly uber-talented but 2 cent head. Could be another Raheem reclamation project. 6’5 267 but burst has been literally eaten away at 4.93.
Tori Gurley- (ex-WR) Played at 6’4 230 but dropped down to 215 for combine to showcase speed (4.52). Great hands but looks more like an H-Back in waiting.
Andre Smith-very good size (6’4 270) and hands, enough speed (4.78)
Brett Brackett-Collegiate WR at PSU is 6’6 248 and ran an impressive 4.61. Was second on team in receiving (39-525-5).
Mike McNeill-Smallish (6’4 231), with decent athleticism (4.67) but not much strength (13 reps.
Collin Franklin- Iowa St. product was 2nd in Big 12 (2nd team all Big 12) in receptions per game for TE (4.5). Stands 6’6 256 lbs and ran 4.69 at Pro Day. Also jumped 34.5” VJ, 10’06” BJ, and did 225 28X.

OT-6
Willie Smith-pretty good feet, decent size (6’5 310) lacks power but can longsnap.
Mike Smith (Nebraska)-former TE with good athleticism but little size and strength (6’6 298).
David Mims-small school Goliath, 6'8 330 lbs with good strength (29 reps) and decent athleticism (5.32).
Kyle Hix- Massive at 6’7 319 lbs, he has played both LT and RT for Longhorns (earned Big 12 honorable mention in 2009 at RT). Didn’t run well (5.44) but showed surprising short area burst (32” VJ).
Erik Mensik-Made all Big-12 1st team at OT. Stands 6’6 and only 296, but has decent feet but needs more time in weight room (23 reps).
OT Jarriel King-Good frame (6'5 317) and athleticism (5.03 40 30” VJ), didn't play to potential over course of collegiate career.

OG-6
Zach Hurd-Huge (6’7 319) with functional strength (25 reps) and decent athleticism (5.28).
Cameron Bradfield. A freakish athlete (6’4 301 4.81 40! 30 BP) for Grand Valley St. Bradfield was Little All-America 1st team as a LT two years straight.
DJ Young-Enough size for OG (6’5 307) and good enough athleticism for OT (5.17), he is a dedicated worker (36 reps of 225) and had all Big-10 honorable mention honors.
Ray Dominguez-OT starter for Arkansas, will switch to OG due to size (6’4 334). Below average athleticism (5.30 40 27.5” VJ, 21 reps) but he is a wide-body.
Carl Johnson-Humongous (6’5 344) with better than expected athleticism (5.40 40 25.5” VJ), his biggest battles often come from pushing away from the dinner table.
Byron Bell-All MWC LT honorable mention, is built much more like OG (6’5 339) but has enough short area quickness to possibly give RT a shot (30” VJ, 5.36 40 7.69 3C)

OC-3
Zane Taylor-tons of experience at C and G, is a fighter, but not very big (6’3 309) and not athletic (5.42) but he works very hard (41 reps of 225).
Ryan Bartholomew-a combine star in both running and lifting, very short (6’1 302) but athletic (4.93 34 reps of 225).
Kris O'Dowd-Rated by many as best remaining OC. 6'4 304 but very limited athletically and strength-wise, more technician than athlete.

LS-1
Danny Aiken-(6’4 244 )probably best LS available which is important with Economos injured

DE-9
Ugo Chianasa-great frame (6’5 265) and good speed (4.62), not much production or power
Pierre Allen-has prototype LDE measurable (6’4 273) and looks like Tarzan. Doesn't get off blocks nor a pure pass rusher and plays a bit more like Jane. Still has a pretty good motor. Has potential. A poor man's Allen Bailey.
Keith Darbut-know very little about him other than he played at Baldwin-Wallace and at his pro day he measured 6'4 230, ran 4.38, jumped 38 inches and 10'6, and benched 26 reps. Played DE in college and had 10.5 sacks and 43 tackles in 10 games. Pretty good stats for Div III, but what an impressive athlete! Could be nickel rusher (1.46 10 yard split!) or developmental LB and STer of the present.
Zane Parr-excellent size (6’4 281), pretty good speed for LDE (4.79).
Steven Friday-DE/LB tweener (6’3 240) that has speed (4.64) to be a nickel rusher. Got 2 sacks off 1st rounder Costanzo this past season.
Tom Keiser-DE/LB tweener (6’3 261) that is an intense competitor that is a tad short on speed (4.87)
Aaron Lavarias-small (6’2 250) but quick (4.62) and productive at Idaho.
Jonathan Freeny-6’3 250 lber, was productive as a junior at Rutgers and has decent speed (4.72) with impressive 10 yard split (1.57).
Mario Addison-Small (6’3 245) tweener, has good burst (4.58-4.70 36 VJ) and good production (10.5 sacks as senior).

DT-5
Blaine Sumner-one of the strongest men on Earth. He’s 6’1 335 lbs. of muscle, face-paint , and intensity. He benched 225 52X, 49 officially, his VJ was 32, (40 was 5.32) and he was pretty productive at DT, and even threw in some production at FB. Might not even want to play in the NFL (world class powerlifter), might not be able to pass substance abuse tests. Regardless, the guy is a freak, with freak strength, and has an explosive lower body.
Ronnell Brown- UT size of T-2 of old, 6’1 283 but with T-2 speed as well (4.82 40 and 1.60 10). Shows good work ethic (30 reps of 225) and was among Div I-AA’s best DTs.
Ollie Ogbu-Penn St. product also has the speed to excel in the T-2, (4.84 1.63) and typical size (6’1 298). Not bad work ethic (26 reps) and motor (46 tackles) but was not a great penetrator in college (8.5 TFL 0 sacks).
Martin Parker-Very productive (96 tackles) little (6’2 302) penetrator with T-2-like speed (4.92).
DT Ian Williams-undersized plugger (6’1 319) with not much athleticism (5.21 40 28.5” VJ) but a good motor. Works hard as evidenced by 31 reps of 225 and ability to hold ground at the point of attack.

LB-11
Mario Harvey- 5’11 257 and can fly (4.46). Was EXTREMELY productive (420 career tackles, 21 sacks) in college and at the very least, a core special teams player. In 2010, was 4th in nation in tackles, 26th in sacks, and 14th in tackles for loss. Please give London Fletcher 2.0 a contract!
Mark Herzlich-smart, instinctive with a great frame (6’4 250). Could regain more athleticism as he recovers from cancer that affected his speed (4.91)
Adrian Moten-small and fast in mold of T-2 LBs of old (6’2 228 4.53)
Mike Morgan-small (6’3 225)and fast (4.46) in mold of T-2 LBs of old AND played for a year under Monte Kiffin at USC. Much better athlete than football player right now
Eric Gordon-started 52 games in career at SS and LB and was extremely productive. Has very good speed and also fits into the T-2 LB mold. 6’0 225 with 4.53 speed and 40.5 VJ, at very least has special teams value.
Scott Lutrus-UConn product has enough speed (4.69), athleticism (38 VJ), size (6’2 241), and production to warrant a look.
Larry Dean-productive little LB (6’0 230) from Valdosta St. with enough speed (4.50) to make a roster.
Eric McBride-super productive tackler from Richmond, has prototype T-2 size (6’2 228) and good speed (4.63).
Jeff Tarpinian-oft-injured his last season in college, has decent size (6’2 235) but showed surprising athleticism (4.56 37” VJ) for a MLB. Like almost everybody from Iowa, needs more work in the weight room (16 reps of 225).
Cobrani Mixon-All-MAC performer ran well (4.68) for his size (6’1 241) and showed plenty of athletic ability (35.5” VJ 6.99 3C). Also lifted extremely well showing off his dedication (33 reps of 225). Three year starter at Kent St. that plays well coming forward (11.5 career sacks, 27 TFL, to go along with over 250 career tackles.
Michael Lockley-6’1 237 lb. MLB from FAU, ran 4.62 and jumped 38.5” as well as posting an impressive 120 tackles. All Sun-Belt 2nd team.

CB-8
Kendric Burney-small, slow but productive CB (5’9 186 4.71).
Jason Teague-lengthy CB (6’2 184) with pretty decent athletic ability (4.52).
Josh Gatlin-lengthy (6’1 195) small school CB with great quickness and speed (4.38)
Ryan Jones-good sized (5’11 198) fairly athletic (4.46) small school (NW Missouri St.) CB with good production
Kevin Rutland-good sized (6’0 190) with pretty good athleticism (4.47-4.59 40 37.5” VJ) that made an impact in coverage (3 INTs) and in other areas (4 sacks).
Darrin Walls-good sized (6’0 191) with good speed (4.41) and decent production at Notre Dame. He has questionable instincts (never a full-time starter) and never progressed into the big-time player (only 5 career INTs) he was projected to be.
Vince Agnew-Lightning fast (4.38) and very athletic (39.5” VJ 11’02” BJ, 6.68 3C) he was 3rd team All-MAC and chipped in with 73 tackles in 2010. Not very big (5’10 192) and only one career INT.
CB Chris L. Rucker-Excellent size (6'1 194) and decent athleticism (4.54) and production but comes with a ton of character questions.

FS-1
Devon Torrence (CB)-played CB at Ohio St but I would rather see him as a FS as he has decent size (6’0 199) and below average speed for CB (4.53-4.68)

SS-9
DeAndre McDaniel-good sized (6’0 217) hitter with decent athletic ability and just enough speed (4.63).
Deaunta Williams-highly rated going into final season, has pretty good size (6’2 205) and athletic ability. Had broken leg to end 2010 season, but if healthy, he has talent.
Jeron Johnson-athletic safety (4.51) with decent size (5’10 212).
Jarrard Tarrant-decent sized (6’0 204) S with good striking ability and decent speed (4.51-4.57)
Joe Lefeged-decent sized (6’0 210) S with excellent athletic ability (4.42) that he doesn't quite play up to.
Mana Silva-2nd in nation in interceptions with 8 and has decent size (6’0 204) but excellent athletic ability (4.43 and 40” VJ).
Justin Taplin-Ross-Former Utah player has great size (6’3 225) and excellent speed (4.53 and 37” VJ), he was marginally productive in college but could be a good special teams player in the NFL. Could be converted to LB.
Dom DeCicco-6’3 232 lb SS could likely move to LB. Was very productive as a tackler and in coverage for Pitt.
Ron Parker-Tiny Newberry College product had his workout attended by Buc’s scouts. Decent size (6’0 206) but exceptional speed (4.35) and very good production.

P-1
Chas Henry-(6'3 215) booming punter that could provide training camp competition.
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Feel free to agree/disagree/tell me some of these guys suck.... because I already agree that some suck... but they have physical qualities where if the light were to go on, or with proper coaching, they could contribute. Who ever thought Derek Hardman would play well for us last season? James Lee? LeGarrette Blount? Demar Dotson could be a player for us... Donald Penn already is. Rudy Carpenter has been fantastic at holding a clipboard, Clifton Smith and Michael Spurlock were undrafted. Shelton Quarles was excellent during his playing days... and they are all undrafted.

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The 16 guys I'm bringing to camp (if I could choose)

QB Jeff Van Camp
RB Derrick Locke
RB Mario Fannin
WR Kris Adams
WR Jeff Maehl
TE DeAndre Brown
OT David Mims
LS Danny Aiken
DT Martin Parker
DT Blaine Sumner
DE/LB Keith Harbut
LB Mario Harvey
LB Eric Gordon
CB Josh Gatlin
S Mana Silva
S Deunta Williams


I'm thinking 6-8 of these guys make our team or get cut and make somebody else's... and 12 are on our team or practice squad.
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A lot of guys in there that are exciting players. Portis, Weber and Johnson are all intriguing. Johnson and Weber had careers that went sour towards the end, while Portis is an athlete that everyone's been buzzing about for a while. Locke is dynamic if healthy, Devine has the best balance of any back since Barry Sanders, Saine has elite receiving skill and may be a better NFLer than college player.

Those are just the first 2 positions...
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Great work, brasho!
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With rosters being expanded to 90, we will be signing more UDFAs than ever before.

Just added Tarpinian, Ron Parker, DeCicco, and Mario Addison to bring the list to 75.

edit: And DeMaarco Sampson brings it to 76... please get this deal signed and start signing UDFAs so I can quit overanalyzing this! Darn it, came across Raymond Webber...77!

Four more, added Collin Franklin, Cameron Bradfield, DJ Young, and Kyle Hix. That's 81.

And 2 more OGs (Dominguez, C. Johnson) to bring it to 83. Evans and Grigsby to 85. Hurry up and end this lockout! I figure I'll stop at the new roster cut-off at 90, unless UDFA's start getting signed first.

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Nice write-up, thank you!
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What about Ian Williams DT from Notre Dame? Price is definately going to be on the PUP list and some think he won't even play this year because he's not in shape and no where near ready for contact. Unless you think we're satisfied at the NT on our line, do you think we need a guy to rotate with Miller?
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What about Ian Williams DT from Notre Dame? Price is definately going to be on the PUP list and some think he won't even play this year because he's not in shape and no where near ready for contact. Unless you think we're satisfied at the NT on our line, do you think we need a guy to rotate with Miller?
I'm not a big Ian Williams fan in the least bit. I'm not big on Cedric Thornton either. Neither seem to have enough quickness or production at the collegiate level to seem like anything other than just-another-guy in the NFL. The list I compiled is based more on guys that have one or more special qualities (great speed, size, production, etc) but still weren't drafted due to questions about health, speed, size, production, etc. To me, Ian Williams and Cedric Thornton don't have any special qualities.unlike guys like Parker (speed, production), Ogbu (speed), Brown (speed), and Sumner (size and strength) have a quality that could make them a player in the NFL. I wouldn't be opposed to bringing either one of them in, I just don't think they have much long-term potential to be anything other than career backups.
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I like Ian Williams a lot, but not as insurance for Price. Williams is Roy Miller minus quickness. He's stout and well put together with a strong base. He's a NT/NG that anchors well, and he has decent speed and agility to break down. He's not quick enough to be a pass rusher though so if we signed him it'd be as a backup to Miller and instant short-yardage run stopper.

I think he slid because of a medical issue because he's a mid-round talent at worst imo. His anchoring ability was elite on tape as a nose in a 3-4, and he has decent movement.
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Okay, added 5 final guys to make a 90 man UDFA list. Added Donald Buckram at RB, Cobrani Mixon at LB, Rutland, Walls, and Agnew at CB.

Top 20 notable players left off:

QB/RB/WR/S Josh Nesbitt-QB from GTech was a horrendous passer but fairly effective as a runner (1000 yards rushing in 09). Good size (6'1 219) and decent speed (4.59) that could make for an interesting Wildcat or trickplay option.
QB/RB Jeremiah Masoli-Good athlete (5'11 224 4.60 40), bad character. Wouldn't be a QB, most likely RB with Wildcat options.
OL Garrett Chisolm-One year starter that was up and down, good athletic ability but questionable technique. 6'5 312, but blew out ACL late in season and might not be ready for season.
C Alex Linnenkohl-Like Dowd, a very limited athlete that is more brain than brawn. The upside is that most good OCs aren't physical marvels.
C Jake Kirkpatrick-if I had a dollar for every marginally athletic OC that relies more on smarts than his athletic ability that didn't get drafted... I'd have enough money to pay the one game salary for Jeff Faine's next injury replacement. 6'2 300, bad feet, brown hair...
DE Brandon Bair-Good frame (6'6 270) but is way too old (27) in my book to ever be more than a fringe guy.
DE Ryan Winterswyk-Good motor, pretty good production, not enough speed (5.02)
DT Cedric Thornton-Good frame (6’3 309) but not strong enough, productive enough, or athletic enough (5.25 40 27” VJ) to be a game changer.
DT Sealver Siliga-Little DT that runs and plays like a big space-eater...
DT John Graves-little guys that run like great big guys don't get high marks from me.
LB Nick Bellore-lots of production, not much athleticism
LB Josh Bynes-same as Bellore
CB Mario Butler-good leangth (6'0 182) but not nearly fast enough (4.66) or productive enough (4 career INTs) to garner much interest.
K Kai Forbath- He's good, and with the new kickoff rules, almost any old kicker will do, as long as he can hit from 45 and in. Was an excellent collegiate PK.

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Nesbitt is a RB only. He's a short-yardage intangibles runner. He plays with a lot of heart and could be like Graham one day. Not for us though...we don't need him.

I like Bynes better than Bellore. Bellore looks great going north-south and really closes in and hits well inside the tackle box. Outside the tackle box he has trouble breaking down and getting around blockers on the perimeter. Bynes is slow but has great footwork to make up for it, and actually does well in coverage and pursuit because he's quicker than fast. He reminds me some of Ali Highsmith.

Both are worth fliers imo.
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Apparently, NFL teams are only going to be allowed to spend $75K on UDFAs... so that means that we can sign a couple "high dollar" guys and a bunch of lesser ones or several mid-level guys.

With that in mind I've revised my list of faves in order of preference:

1) LB Mario Harvey-big LB with tremendous speed and production. Would be huge on special teams.
2) RB Derrick Locke-though Devine, Grigsby, and Buckram would be intriguing options as well. Could return punts and kicks as well.
3) S Mana Silva-playmaking S with elite speed could make immediate impact on ST
4) DE Keith Darbut-speedy undersized edge rusher could become nickle DE and special teams monster.
5) DT Martin Parker-with Price still ailing, a quick backup to McCoy might be needed. Okam and Woods can be NTs or stout UTs, more speed is needed
6) OT David Mims-he has the size and strength to be a beast almost anywhere on the OL if he isn't too tall for OG
7) LS Danny Aiken-with Economos injured, a good replacement is necessary
8) CB Josh Gatlin-a developmental CB with elite size and athleticism.

Other favorites: WR Raymond Webber, WR Kris Adams, RB Mario Fannin, OG Zach Hurd, DE Pierre Allen, LB Eric Gordon, S Ron Parker, S/LB Dom DeCicco.
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Nesbitt is a RB only. He's a short-yardage intangibles runner. He plays with a lot of heart and could be like Graham one day. Not for us though...we don't need him.

I like Bynes better than Bellore. Bellore looks great going north-south and really closes in and hits well inside the tackle box. Outside the tackle box he has trouble breaking down and getting around blockers on the perimeter. Bynes is slow but has great footwork to make up for it, and actually does well in coverage and pursuit because he's quicker than fast. He reminds me some of Ali Highsmith.

Both are worth fliers imo.
I don't see either having enough pure speed to be assets on special teams, and that's where they will have to earn their keep at first. I think 3-4 teams will like them more inside.
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So does free agency start today?
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Free agency likely starts at noon on Tuesday, according to Drew Brees. I was thinking UDFA's should be getting signed today.
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Official NFL Calendar

http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?...1_nfl_calendar

Rookies can start being signed on Tuesday EST at 10 am. That includes UDFA's.

Free Agency starts on Friday at 6 pm.
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I don't see either having enough pure speed to be assets on special teams, and that's where they will have to earn their keep at first. I think 3-4 teams will like them more inside.
Bellore could be a core special teamer imo. He seeks ballcarriers well without hesitation. His speed looks decent on film.
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Have you seen that UDFAs are already being signed? LeFeged, Herzlich, McDaniel, Burney, are gone. Just as long as we get Harvey and a few of the other guys I highlighted I'll be happy.
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Where are you seeing players signed?
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We got Nick Reveiz. Can't find any film but sounds like a productive, explosive, intelligent, self-made walk-on FB/LB.
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he's a midget, though. Meh

(I know Ahmad Black is short, too)
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Derrell Smith LB Syracuse Buccaneers Tue-12:11 AM
Raymond Webber WR Arkansas-Pine Bluff Buccaneers Tue-12:11 AM
Detron Lewis WR Texas Tech Buccaneers Tue-12:11 AM
Mike Coughlin QB Boise State Buccaneers Mon-11:06 PM
Nick Reveiz LB Tennessee Buccaneers Mon-11:06 PM

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Yeah, I was up til 2 am following Twitter accounts of various people and the only name I came up with different from bulgr8daddy's is RB Mossis Madu of Oklahoma.

For Reveiz, Nick Reveiz only played one season (like all Tennessee defenders) under Kiffin. He played in only 4 games before he was injured and lost for the season.

An interesting note about him, which makes me squeamish, is that former NFL PK Fuad Reveiz is his dad. So the LB we just signed’s NFL pedigree is that of a kicker. Oh well, he runs well, has experience, is a former walk-on…forget the fact that he’s the son of a PK and 5’9 and had to have his knee redone last year.
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RB Jeremy Avery and Donald Buckram are still out there.
WR Kris Adams, DeMarco Sampson, Demario Ballard, and Armon Binns are still available
FB Keith Payne
TE Collin Franklin
OL Zach Hurd, WIllie Smith, Mike Smith, Zane Taylor, Cameron Bradfield, Carl Johnson, and Ray Dominguez are still there.
DE Keith Darbut, Steven Friday, Tom Keiser, and Aaron Lavarias
DT Martin Parker, Ollie Ogbu, Blaine Sumner, and Ronnell Brown
LB Larry Dean, Eric McBride, Adrian Moten, Cobrani Mixon would fit well
CB Josh Gatlin, Ryan Jones, Darrin Walls, and Chris L. Rucker are players
S Deaunta Williams and Jarrard Tarrant are there and pretty good
P Chas Henry

There's still some quality players that could contribute this season out there. Dom has to get some of these guys signed!
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Who we signed:

WR Raymond Webber of Ankansas-Pine Bluff. He was monstrously productive (101-
1429-10) in I-AA, leading the nation in catches, and has enough athletic ability and speed (4.50 10’06” LJ) to earn a shot at the NFL. His collegiate production is even more impressive considering the next most productive receiver on his team did very little (16-242-2). Webber produced 46.5% of his team’s receptions, 52.0% of their yards, and 47.6% of the team’s TD catches!

Also signed were LB Derrell Smith, Syracuse, who according to Twitter was recruited and called by Coach Morris himself. Smith had over 100 tackles last season, stands 6’0 241 and ran 4.76 and jumped 35.5″. He’s another MLB.

WR Detron Lewis of Texas Tech. 6’0 198 with 4.61 speed and 37″ VJ. he was very productive at TT, playing the Wes Welker role. Perhaps another slot WR to push Stroughter/

QB Mike Coughlin, Boise St. is the ultimate definition of “Camp Arm”. Threw 9 passes last season at Boise St. as Kellen Moore’s backup. Good dize, 6’4 225, and though he is slow (5.0) he has run quite well in college.

RB Mossis Madu of Oklahoma didn’t produce much as a Sooner. he bounced between RB and WR and was suspended for the opener for a DUI. He stands 5’11 201 and runs 4.61.
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