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Old 11-18-2011, 01:55 AM    (permalink
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Ta'amy is very powerful. Technique not great so there's room to get even better .
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Love Kelechi Osemele. I was really impressed in the Iowa State game a few weeks back. The man specializes in bulldozing human beings.
From what I have seen of him, he will almost certainly have to play inside. He will be a very good guard, but I think he would get abused at OT.
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From what I have seen of him, he will almost certainly have to play inside. He will be a very good guard, but I think he would get abused at OT.
Oh yeah definitely. He has no business at OT in the NFL.
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Oh yeah definitely. He has no business at OT in the NFL.
Yeah, he looks more sluggish than Loadholt did, IMO.
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Mercilus, what a great name.

Very strong in run contain, very natural fluid athlete. You can see where he can be used in a few different ways. It doesn't look like this Is the body he'll have in 2 Years.
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While watching Cordy Glenn I like thiS Danny travathan from KU. Tackling machine. Lot of fight in him, could be a Keith Davis type
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Just finished up the Forum Mock in the fantasy section, this is what I ended up with.

1. Janoris Jenkins, CB, North Alabama
2. Michael Brewster, C, Ohio State
3. Aaron Henry, S, Wisconsin
4. Jerry Franklin, LB, Arkansa

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I haven't really started thinking about specific players, but I think it's clear given yesterday's game, we still need to go heavy on defense in the draft. We need another DB and an interior DL.
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Just finished up the Forum Mock in the fantasy section, this is what I ended up with.

1. Janoris Jenkins, CB, North Alabama
2. Michael Brewster, C, Ohio State
3. Aaron Henry, S, Wisconsin
4. Jerry Franklin, LB, Arkansa

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Good job Paul. I like seeing the different views folks have on our team needs and seeing how they would go about addressing them. Jenkins has as much upside as any corner in the draft and there's a lot to like about him. I question whether Garrett will take on a guy with his kind of character , but more importantly, I question whether he is the ideal CB that fits Rob Ryan's scheme. In addition to being able to a good cover guy (which I think Jenkins has all the make up and skills to do), I think Ryan also prefers physical corners who are sure tacklers, who can get physical at the LOS and who can excel at blitzing the QB. It's the physical part of the game that I still have question marks on with Jenkins. I do see him as a willing type, I just don't know if that "will" translates to "ability". He could very well end up that kind of player, with development and coaching, but I probably would've gone another direction. Right now, I have Alfonzo Dennard ahead of Jenkins in the senior class (based off Ryan's scheme), but I also really like the depth of this CB class throughout the draft. I know this guy wasn't in the mock, but if Johnathan Banks declares, I'm drooling over him right now. He's the complete package of what I think we need.

Brewster was an awesome selection. Jerry has shown the afinity for taking Centers in Round 2 and I think that is our biggest weakness on the OL. So getting a guy like Brewster there was a good find. Konz went soon after your pick in Round 1 and I don't like that value. I'm with you... I like Jenkins ahead of Konz there too.

Not a huge fan of the Aaron Henry pick. I thought that was a reach. With Lucas Nix, Coby Fleener, Brandon Boykin, Amini Silatolu, and Antonio Allen going right after, I thought those were all better values. Maybe you can tell me what you like about Henry and why you thought he was good value there. If you were looking at Safety there, I like Antonio Allen, but another guy I like is small school prospect Trumaine Johnson. I had him in a mock here before, I just really like how he would project to being a cover safety on the next level. He is really raw, but I love his upside and I think any Safety we draft this year would be a developmental guy anyway. I think Sensy and Elam have earned extensions. Just didn't quite get the Henry pick, but I know he has other fans (The Finisher).

Who is Jerry Franklin? I'm not up and up on him yet... but should I be? Is he an ILB or OLB?

Overall, I could come away hopeful about the Jenkins and Brewster picks with some question marks about Henry and Franklin, but I like it! Good job! :D
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I think I'd rather go DL with that first or second round and try to sign someone like John Sullivan or McClure in FA.
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I think I'd rather go DL with that first or second round and try to sign someone like John Sullivan or McClure in FA.
I'd rather go with a young talented Center in the draft, unless you can get a better FA like Ryan Kalil. I just don't see an upgrade at DL in the draft this year. ...except at NT perhaps and I haven't been convinced enough of those 2 guys yet..
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I'd rather go with a young talented Center in the draft, unless you can get a better FA like Ryan Kalil. I just don't see an upgrade at DL in the draft this year. ...except at NT perhaps and I haven't been convinced enough of those 2 guys yet..
I supose I could be persuaded if there's a stud C in there. I know how important that position is and how overmatched Costa has been much of the time.
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I supose I could be persuaded if there's a stud C in there. I know how important that position is and how overmatched Costa has been much of the time.
I've had a negative bias on Costa since the preseason hype since I never believed a word of it. I can see why the coaches started praising him because he does a good job at getting to the second level in run blocking, but it's terribly apparent that he cannot sustain one on one blocks and cannot create a straight forward push without getting help from a neighboring guard. This was no more apparent than this game against Washington. An upgrade at C is critical for 2012.

As for the Guard play... it hasn't been as bad as those clamoring for "interior OL" help make it out to be. Hopefully Arkin is at the weight room as we speak because I have high hopes for him.

Glad Paul didn't take an early OG in his mock.
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I've had a negative bias on Costa since the preseason hype since I never believed a word of it. I can see why the coaches started praising him because he does a good job at getting to the second level in run blocking, but it's terribly apparent that he cannot sustain one on one blocks and cannot create a straight forward push without getting help from a neighboring guard. This was no more apparent than this game against Washington. An upgrade at C is critical for 2012.

As for the Guard play... it hasn't been as bad as those clamoring for "interior OL" help make it out to be. Hopefully Arkin is at the weight room as we speak because I have high hopes for him.

Glad Paul didn't take an early OG in his mock.
I agree. If only Costa were an inch or two taller and 20 lbs heavier. :)
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I agree. If only Costa were an inch or two taller and 20 lbs heavier. :)
I think there is something to be said about Costa looking good in practice against Jay Ratliff. Being able to handle the size of smaller DTs, but against bigger DTs, the results are not the same.
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Ta'amy is very powerful. Technique not great so there's room to get even better .
YOu know, I love the idea of a huge DT early but in the video of this guy I've seen, he does not appear to be as dominate as his size would indicate.

He does a good job of pushing the pocket back, but gets pushed back some in the run game. That's exactly opposite from what you might think. Does anyone have some video that proves me wrong?
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Chapman actually looks to hold the point of attack better and the clips I saw, Chapman is playing against much better competition.
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Also, I know Cliff Harris has some off the field issues, but he sure seems to fit the bill. A great punt returner, too.
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Also, I know Cliff Harris has some off the field issues, but he sure seems to fit the bill. A great punt returner, too.
I'm fully aboard drafting a nickel corner type, and he's one of the ones who I think fits the bill.

Others on my radar are Brandon Boykin and Greg Reid. Between those 3 guys, I would love to add one to the team. Scandrick still gets worked in the slot from time to time.

I like them in this order.... Boykin, Reid, Harris.
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Dallas Cowboys Mock Draft 4.0

Round 1 - QB Tyler Wilson, Arkansas



Thanks to being a frequent poster on this board, I've been educated on the skills that this young man possess and I'm hopping on the bandwagon. Grabbing the kid now while he is green is perfect time for pickin'. We don't need him yet, but we can certainly groom him until he's ripe. You can bet that Jerry Jones is already well aware of this QB prospect hailing from his own alma mater.


Round 2 - CB Johnathan Banks, Mississippi St



In my last mock I had us taking him in Round 3, but that's just unrealistic. If Banks comes out as a Junior, he could even rise up to the 1st round. However, I feel comfortable with our chances of drafting him here for now. Love everything about him as he is my #1 on my CB wish list.


Round 3 - C Ben Jones, Georgia






Hell, just looking at some of his google pics, you can tell that there is some real fire in this dude's belly. Borderline crazy! haha. I like that in OL. Especially at C where the middle of the trenches can be fierce like no where else on the field. Center is the most important position on the OL and it's really not that close. Adding a passionate attitude pivot man like him can exude over to the rest of the offense and if every player fought with fire in their belly like him, we'd go from a good offense to a dominant one. It's all about attitude.


Round 4 - CB Greg Reid, Florida State



Reid has displayed shades of Devin Hester in the return game and that alone makes him worth this draft spot. Toss in the legit CB skills he has, and I can see him thriving as a nickel CB in the NFL. It's not a downgrade to be a nickel CB these days as some of the most quick twitch lightning bolt WRs are taking on that role. Reid has the athleticism and same quick twitch ability to keep up.


Round 5 - TE Rhett Ellison, USC



Ellison is one of the best blocking TEs in college football imo, and is no slouch when given the ball from time to time either. An excellent utility player and x factor type guy. Puts his hard hat on everyday and you can count on him giving his all on every play... unlike Martellus, who I don't see coming back as he enters FA. So this position could use addressing.


Round 6 - DT Tydreke Powell, UNC



Tydreke Powell is would go from a late round prospect to a first round prospect if the only thing he did was put on 5-10 more pounds. At 6'3, 315 and the frame to put on more, Tydreke can be a late round gem because he's got everything else. His job gets little recogition, but both DEs on that line have benefitted as both Quinton Coples and Donte Paige-Moss are high on scouts radars. You could even track the high attraction that Zach Brown and Kevin Reddick are getting back to the production UNC is getting from the big man in the middle of the trenches. Definitely worth a flyer here.

Round 7 - S Janzen Jackson, Former Tennessee player



Once a top player and draft prospect at the safety position, Jackson left the team this past year for personal reasons. A late round pick here is certainly worth the chance that he could end up a late round steal. He's instinctive and able to deliver knock out blows. I sure do miss that enforcing "intimidating" factor that we used to have.
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YOu know, I love the idea of a huge DT early but in the video of this guy I've seen, he does not appear to be as dominate as his size would indicate.

He does a good job of pushing the pocket back, but gets pushed back some in the run game. That's exactly opposite from what you might think. Does anyone have some video that proves me wrong?
His issues aren't strength/size related, they are technique problems that can easily be corrected on the next level. People seem to forget that he was scouted out of highschool as an OG not NT and he is still pretty raw in his basic fundementals.

It is pretty hard to see on any of the highlight clips, but he tends to fire off the ball with a narrow base which allows lineman to knock him off balance especially when fighting against the double team. He is primarily a bull rusher who has yet to develop power rips and swim moves to split defenders and as he tires he tends to stand tall instead of driving low maintaining his strength.

An NFL conditioning program coupled with some coaching / veteran mentorship will square him away into a solid play maker IMO. I think he has Vince Wilfork type potential.
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Wilson is gonna be a Top 5 pick if he declares...here's a post I made yesterday

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the more I watch of Wilson (and I'm already a huge fan) the more tempted I am to put him ahead of Andrew Luck and may even vault him to the #1 prospect spot...he's got the arm strength (can literally make every throw), his deep balls don't drift like Luck/RGIII, has mobility (not RGIII caliber but he's got the ability to escape pressure and move around in the pocket), and he's becoming better week-in and week-out on reading defenses and determining where to go with the football (which he was absolutely spot on with in the Mississippi State game)
I think the more that teams sit down and watch his game action throughout the season, the more they'll learn to love his game and eventually he'll vault to the #2 QB spot on most teams' big boards...I have a strong feeling by the time April rolls around and assuming Wilson declares, he'll be my #1 prospect overall

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Wilson is gonna be a Top 5 pick if he declares...here's a post I made yesterday



I think the more that teams sit down and watch his game action throughout the season, the more they'll learn to love his game and eventually he'll vault to the #2 QB spot on most teams' big boards...I have a strong feeling by the time April rolls around and assuming Wilson declares, he'll be my #1 prospect overall

D-Unit, how do you rate the potential corners for this draft???
Well, I know you have that opinion of Wilson but his body of work is still very small and you can't honestly say he'll be picked in the top 5 now without some question. Once his game gets dissected I don't think he'll go higher than Barkley or Griffin. The hype machine is just starting so there's no certainty behind any projections at this point in the process... But you can and will find people willing to step up early and make bold predictions so that they can later say they were there at the beginning. ;)

I'm more impressed with the depth of this year's cb class than I am of the first round names. I also think FA will be kind to teams in need of cbs.
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I think further dissection of his game will help him more than it will hurt, especially when comparing him to RGIII (who I feel will be hurt when people go back and watch the film on him more)...Wilson has the strongest arm out of any of the quarterback prospects that we're discussing at the top of this draft, he's got ideal size for the position, he's got good pocket presence and like I mentioned in the post above he can work his way out of the pocket if necessary, and his ability to break down defenses prior to the snap and reading them has improved to a point where it is one of his greatest strengths. Although his experience is limited, the amount of improvement he's made this season has to make one think that the sky is the limit for him. And I'm not trying to "that guy" who goes out on a limb by suggesting something out of the norm, I truly believe we're looking at an absolute stud of a quarterback in the making.
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Default mock based on 18th overall w/ senarios



#18 Robert Griffin III QB Baylor
Why he'll be there: An abundace of QB prospects available in the first round including Luck, Wilson, Barkley, Landry Jones, and Tannehill force the least of the "pro ready" QB's down to #18.

Why he won't be there: RGIII adds a completely differen't demension to the QB position with his ability to extend plays with his legs, while maintaining the ability to hit open WR. Teams look at the success of Cam Newton and attempt to duplicate the results by selecting Griffin.

Immediate impact: Griffin is afforded the ability to learn a pro style offense at his own pace while Romo continues to start until his contract expires in 2014 or is traded. JG develops a wildcat package to allow Griffin to have some time on the field and adds a change up to the conventional play calling.

Long term Goal: Griffin will be groomed to be the heir apparent to Romo only adding to the young offensive core of Dez, Murray and Tyron Smith, along with Vets J-Witten, Miles Austin and Robinson.

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Coryell Judie CB Texas A&M
Why he'll be there: Although Judie only has only been playing football since his senior year of highschool he displays a good natural feel for the game. An explosive athlete who has great leaping ability and ability to close out a Wr. Shows the ability to spy in the backfield and track the ball in the air in zone coverage. In man coverage he has a nice back pedal and can sit in the back pocket of his man. As good a Judie can be, he is still very raw and not ready for a starting job yet. Needs to work on his upperbody strength and ability to work out of bump and run coverage. Also, is very susceptible to double moves and pump fake, he concentrates more on making a big play rather than shadowing his man.

Why he won't be there: Judie displays enough proimise that a good team at the end of the first round could afford to roll the dice and stash him on the bench for a season or two until he was ready to compete for a starting job.

Immeditate impact: Judie has experience as a return man and it wouldn't be a stretch to have him cover kicks and punts as well. Could also contribute in dime coverage and possibly get some time at FS.

Long Term goal: Judie's physical abilities and his ball hawking ability would make him ideal at either the CB or FS postion.



Dontari Poe NT Memphis,
Why he'll be there: He is a big Fish in a small pond at Memphis and may get the itch to leave early. He is a classic 2 gap run stuffer with above average mobility for his size. When he uses leverage correctly he an consistantly collapse the pocket and can use a decent rip /spin combo to seperate from blockers. Poe needs better conditioning and discipline in his technique to remain effective at the next level.

Why he won't be there: There is always an abundance of teams looking for true nose tackles in the draft and will reach on the chance to get the next best run stuffer. They will overlook the fact that his play is enhanced by weak competition and the fact that his motor can run hot to cold. Very similar game to MT Cody in the fact that he can dominate one game and disappear the next.

Immeditate impact: A reserve position at NT and the ability to move Ratliff around in formations to take advantage of the offenses weaknesses.

Future Goal: A perminate starter at nose tackle, finally giving the team a body to jam the middle of the line and occupy blockers.


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Rokevious Watkins G South Carolina,
Why he'll be there: Former Juco transfer who is paving the way for Lattimore and company. Great run blocker who shows a nice punch and a nasty streak to drive defenders off of the ball. Watkins isn't a great athlete, but he shows adequate leg bend when fighting off defenders in a phone booth.

Why he wont be there: Everyone has there eyes on Lattimore and the more success he continues to have, the more eyes will be on the line. Watkins is currently playing right tackle but will struggle against speed rushers due to his lack of recovery speed. Teams will recognize this and focus their efforts on his ability at guard, where he is the best fit.

Immediate impact: Reserve Lineman with some versatility to play tackle in a pinch.

Long Term Goal: Eventual replacement for Montrea Holland.




George Iloke S Boise State

Why he will be there: Iloke is having a quiet season, but has good size and the ability to play either safety position.

Why he won't be there: Some team may be intruiged by his versatility and solid mesurables, may go as high as the fourth round.

Imediate impact: Special Teams / Sub packages

Long Term goal: Possible Key Reserve



Kyle Wilber OLB Wake Forest

Why he is there: Solid player with a great motor but not a great athlete

Why he wont be there: Having a great season, already has 10+ tfl

Immediate impact: Special Teams

Long Term: Key Reserve



Matt Conrath de Virginia

Why he will be there: sub par athlete, small for a 5 tech

Why he won't: he will lol

Immediate impact: Special teams

Long term: practice squad

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