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Old 09-27-2011, 04:43 PM    (permalink
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i think tyrann mathieu has to make an appearance sometime soon... keeps causing turnovers and is arguably the best player on one of the best defenses in the country
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Weird that you guys posted, I was going to update this earlier today but had to run and honestly didn't feel like putting the thought into it at the time.

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Heisman Watch Post Week 3:

1. Kellen Moore, QB Boise State
2. Marcus Lattimore, RB South Carolina
3. Robert Griffin, QB Baylor
4. Andrew Luck, QB Stanford
5. Russell Wilson, QB Wisconsin
6. Taylor Martinez, QB Nebraska
7. Landry Jones, QB Oklahoma
8. Geno Smith, QB West Virginia
9. Trent Richardson, RB Alabama
10. Case Keenum, QB Houston
The top really remains the same.

Heisman Watch Post Week 4:

1. Kellen Moore, QB Boise State
2. Robert Griffin, QB Baylor
3. Marcus Lattimore, RB South Carolina
4. Russell Wilson, QB Wisconsin
5. Trent Richardson, RB Alabama
6. Andrew Luck, QB Stanford
7. Lamichael James, RB Oregon
8. Taylor Martinez, QB Nebraska
9. Tyrann Mathieu, CB LSU
10. Landry Jones, QB Oklahoma

We're about two weeks away from this really taking shape, in my opinion.

I really wanted to find a spot for Taj Boyd, QB Clemson but it wasn't in the cards this week. Lucky for him, he has a game in Blacksburg this weekend. Step up Boyd. If he wins with a good performance, he's easily top 5. Beating three ranked opponents won't go unnoticed. If you swapped him in for Landry right now, I wouldn't dispute that.

If you remember, I eliminated Lamichael James for disappearing against LSU week one, and missing on a huge opportunity for a Heisman moment. That was the biggest game on Oregon's schedule. And still is. But even I can't ignore 288 yards on the ground. So for now, he's back. He still won't be in the top 3 without a 'Heisman moment' but he's put himself back on the conversation. The disappearing act against LSU is almost excusable at this point with how well LSU is playing.

Speaking of LSU's defense, Tyrann Mathieu, CB LSU and one of my picks for breakout players of the year is on the list. He's a baller, no really other way to say it. The measurables aren't there but he produces and is certainly a talent to keep an eye on.

Andrew Luck was knocked down because of an off week for Stanford, and really an underwhelming season thus far as far as the Heisman goes.

You'll notice that the top 3 in QB rating are represented here, as well as the top two rushers in the country.

Now, tear it apart.
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Baylor has only played one legitimate team, but RG3 has more touchdowns (13) than incompletions (12). That's ridiculous.

Also, Landry Jones shall now be referred to as Laundry Jones.
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I know it's Boyd's team but Sammy Watkins anyone?
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taj boyd and chris rainey are right outside the top 10 for me, so i agree with the list. mathieu will move into my top five if he balls against bama like he did against oregon and west virginia. rainey can make his way into the legitimate discussion with a big game against alabama and will get some serious love if florida manages to take down both bama and lsu, but i doubt that.
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I know it's Boyd's team but Sammy Watkins anyone?
Sammy Watkins is legit, but like you said it's Boyd's team.

And in response to you, no problem. It'll be cool to look at this when the final count does come around. I don't think I'm mirroring any lists by any sites because I really don't think anyone does it aside from ESPN, but if it does look that way, I promise these lists are 100 percent original and that's what makes it fun on a week to week basis.

Rainey is fringe right now with the likes of Denard Robinson, who most have a lot higher than they should. Guilty for that once.
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Sammy Watkins is legit, but like you said it's Boyd's team.

And in response to you, no problem. It'll be cool to look at this when the final count does come around. I don't think I'm mirroring any lists by any sites because I really don't think anyone does it aside from ESPN, but if it does look that way, I promise these lists are 100 percent original and that's what makes it fun on a week to week basis.

Rainey is fringe right now with the likes of Denard Robinson, who most have a lot higher than they should. Guilty for that once.
I'm not following no one elses list, but your's weekly so don't slip up on us with the weekly updates
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I'm not following no one elses list, but your's weekly so don't slip up on us with the weekly updates
They'll be up on Tuesdays, most likely. The weekend, then the case of the Mondays always delays everything.

So, what's the discussion here? No debate? I has a sad.
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Doubt he gets serious Heisman talk unless SC starts dominating but I think one could make a case for Robert Woods being the best football player in the nation.
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I had Ray Graham on the list after Week One and rightfully so, but as much as he's done for Pittsburgh this season I'm not sure it can make up for their lack of team success. As we all know, the Heisman is very contingent on team success as much as individual play.
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Still no Miller Time????? He is killing defenses! It has to be a crime he does not get consideration as a Top 10 guy as of now through 3 games.

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Still no Miller Time????? He is killing defenses! It has to be a crime he does not get consideration as a Top 10 guy as of now through 3 games.

He's not gonna get any Heisman talk because Miami is not good.
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He's not gonna get any Heisman talk because Miami is not good.
That's Larceny!
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That's Larceny!
i'm thinking you might want to double check your word choice there. also, miller is not even in the discussion.
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Yeah wc there is not good. Libel, slander, blasphemy, or sacrilege all work better if you're in this same situation again.
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Alright SEC fans.Big game of the week is near an hour away,GO GATORS!!!
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Heisman Watch Post Week 4:

1. Kellen Moore, QB Boise State
2. Robert Griffin, QB Baylor
3. Marcus Lattimore, RB South Carolina
4. Russell Wilson, QB Wisconsin
5. Trent Richardson, RB Alabama
6. Andrew Luck, QB Stanford
7. Lamichael James, RB Oregon
8. Taylor Martinez, QB Nebraska
9. Tyrann Mathieu, CB LSU
10. Landry Jones, QB Oklahoma
Heisman Watch Post Week 5:

1. Robert Griffin, QB Baylor
2. Kellen Moore, QB Boise State
3. Trent Richardson, RB Alabama
4. Andrew Luck, QB Stanford
5. Russell Wilson, QB Wisconsin
6. Marcus Lattimore, RB South Carolina
7. Lamichael James, RB Oregon
8. Tyrann Mathieu, CB LSU
9. Taj Boyd, QB Clemson
10. Robert Woods, WR USC

I don't think there is a clear cut #1 right now, but I'd have to go Griffin if I were forced to chose despite his lone interception on the year being a costly one in the loss to KSU. 18 TDs to 1 INT is impressive.

We're going to see an Andrew Luck push in the coming weeks, and it might catapult him into that #1 spot if Baylor can't win out on Griffin's back.

Richardson will have his chance at the LSU defense in due time. He's been nothing short of impressive since the Kent State game, in which he still scored 3 TDs.

Russell Wilson has played near flawless for a top 5 team in the country but won't accumulate the stats necessary to actually win but he remains on the list.

Lattimore had an off game in a loss which is why he dropped a little.

James had a bye week, but back to back 200 yard weeks keep him on the list.

Boyd led Clemson to yet another win against a ranked opponent, but he didn't do it in a flashy way. The fact that he was even able to go into Blacksburg and win after beating Auburn and FSU was impressive. He'll have plenty more opportunities to rise big with two remaining road games vs ranked opponents. (@SCAR, @GT)

Robert Woods had no problem bouncing Landry Jones from the top 10.

As always, tear it apart. I'd love to hear your opinions.
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1. Robert Griffin|QB|Baylor
2. Andrew Luck|QB|Stanford
3. Landry Jones|QB|Oklahoma
4. Russell Wilson|QB|Wisconsin
5. Kellen Moore|QB|Boise St.
6. Trent Richardson|RB|Alabama
7. Tyrann Mathieu|CB|LSU
8. Marcus Lattimore|RB|S. Carolina
9. LaMichael James|RB|Oregon
10. Robert Woods|WR|USC
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Nice to see Moore still in Heisman talk even playing only 3 quarters per game. That's a sign of how good the guy actually is.
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It's a damn shame that Miller would never get a Heisman consideration, because we suck. He is arguably a Top 3 Heisman candidate right now.
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It's a damn shame that Miller would never get a Heisman consideration, because we suck. He is arguably a Top 3 Heisman candidate right now.
seriously? make me an argument that puts him ahead of any of the following: kellen moore, trent richardson, tyrann mathieu, landry jones, russell wilson, marcus lattimore, etc. miller isn't even sniffing heisman talk, but he is very good.
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seriously? make me an argument that puts him ahead of any of the following: kellen moore, trent richardson, tyrann mathieu, landry jones, russell wilson, marcus lattimore, etc. miller isn't even sniffing heisman talk, but he is very good.
What this guy said. Tenfold.
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