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Old 12-04-2011, 02:40 PM    (permalink
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People really dont realize how good of a season Matt Barkley just had.
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I wouldn't be sir prized if he passed McCoy on the depth chart. I think he might have a better arm and accurate arm then him from the highlights I thought. He also got some wheels too help us prepare for QB's as Wilson , RG3 and other runners etc.
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I forgot about Barkley...yea he deserves to go but I think he is being punished for the USC sanctions.
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RG111 and Ball should battle it out. Richardson did nothing against LSU in his biggest game of the year and Luck had only a so so game against Oregon.

Trent had almost 170 total yards from scrimmage against LSU. That's a little better than doing nothing.

You've got to be a barner... no other explanation.
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Scott's Heisman ballot (www.twitter.com/DraftCountdown):

1. Andrew Luck,
2. Robert Griffin,
3. Trent Richardson,
4. Justin Blackmon,
5. Russell Wilson
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Mathieu has been impressive. But he is overrated because he plays for the number one team. He only has two interceptions. As far as returns go, he doesn't return kickoffs and there are other guys just as good at returning punts. If I'm going to vote for a defensive player from LSU, it would be Claiborne, not Mathieu.

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1. Robert Griffin III
2. Montee Bell
3. Trent Richardson
4. Brandon Weeden
5. Matt Barkley
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Having Richardson but not Montee Ball is a sad joke.
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Scott's Heisman ballot (www.twitter.com/DraftCountdown):

1. Andrew Luck,
2. Robert Griffin,
3. Trent Richardson,
4. Justin Blackmon,
5. Russell Wilson
That's ******* terrible.
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It will be a ******* travesty if Luck wins. I don't care if he's a future #1 pick, I don't care if he came back to play in college, etc. There's no argument, none, that makes any sense, that puts Luck as the best player in college football this year.
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Robert Griffin or Montee Ball

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I'd love for Baylor to have a Heisman winner, but I love RG3 so I'm a bit biased.
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It will be a ******* travesty if Luck wins. I don't care if he's a future #1 pick, I don't care if he came back to play in college, etc. There's no argument, none, that makes any sense, that puts Luck as the best player in college football this year.
This. I would give the Heisman to Richardson.
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Richardson racked up yards against ****** teams.

The best individual performance by a QB was Griffin. For a RB it was Ball. That's it.
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It's gotta be griffin. Luck is a joke. Didn't even have the best season in his own conference.
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Griffin should not win...I would have Barkley win before Griffin. Griffin has rec'd alot of hype, that Oklahoma win is diminished due to the shellacking Ok St put on them last night.
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Richardson racked up yards against ****** teams.

The best individual performance by a QB was Griffin. For a RB it was Ball. That's it.

There isn't a single offensive statistic that was compiled in the Big-12 that didn't come against ****** defenses.

That's why there's typically 3-4 QB's every year in the Big-12 compiling "Heisman" numbers.
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There isn't a single offensive statistic that was compiled in the Big-12 that didn't come against ****** defenses.

That's why there's typically 3-4 QB's every year in the Big-12 compiling "Heisman" numbers.
I'll grant you that. I just think Griffin was crazy good this year.

My personal vote is for Montee Ball. 2nd most touchdowns for a runningback all time behind Barry Sanders? It's really a shame he isn't getting more talk.
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Montee is having quite the year but the fact that he is endorsing Russell more isn't helping his case. Like man be humble and all but admit that you yourself are having one hell of a year.
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i'd bet richardson wins given the news that bama will be in the national championship.

my list would probably be something like
1. robert griffin, baylor
2. montee ball, wisconsin
3. tyrann mathieu, lsu
4a. andrew luck, stanford
4b. matt barkley, usc
5. trent richardson, alabama

edit: had baylor managed to pull off a bcs berth, i think griffin would be the front-runner for the real voting

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ESPN reported that based on their early projections, RGIII will be the winner.
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Plus its Baylor it's harder to win at Baylor than at Stanford. Dan Patrick said that good teams used to call Baylor "Byelor", they were that bad.
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ESPN reported that based on their early projections, RGIII will be the winner.
Yeah, it looks like it. Luck probably 2nd I'd bet.
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RGIII deserves to be the winner. My ballot would be:

1. RGIII
2. Trent Richardson
3. Montee Ball
4. Andrew Luck
5. Tyrann Mathieu
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It will be a ******* travesty if Luck wins. I don't care if he's a future #1 pick, I don't care if he came back to play in college, etc. There's no argument, none, that makes any sense, that puts Luck as the best player in college football this year.
The best argument for Luck is that he's doing what hes doing, and leading Stanford to where it is with a supporting cast that is no where near what most of the other top Quarterbacks have. Still, I dont think he deserves the trophy.

RG3 all the way.
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The best argument for Luck is that he's doing what hes doing, and leading Stanford to where it is with a supporting cast that is no where near what most of the other top Quarterbacks have. Still, I dont think he deserves the trophy.

RG3 all the way.
That is Luck's only argument. The only problem is that Baylor is just as untalented as Stanford. The only way he wins is if voters decide that Most Outstanding is defined as the best NFL prospect.
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ESPN reported that based on their early projections, RGIII will be the winner.
Good, he deserves it.

Still wondering what Monte Ball has to do to get above Trent Richardson.
Transfer to an SEC school?
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