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Old 09-09-2011, 09:56 AM    (permalink
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The only circumstance in which the team who lands the #1 overall pick wouldn't take Luck, is if that team trades away the pick before it is made.

If a team with a great situation at QB improbably ends up picking #1 overall, that team will still pick Andrew Luck because the package of picks and players you can get in exchange for the rights to Luck will exceed the value of any other player you could select at #1.
What about a team like Jacksonville, Carolina, Minnesota even? Not great QB situations but invested a 1st in a QB last year. They don't go Luck.
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It would be totally depressing for Niner, Bills, Browns, Bengals, Redskins and Seahawks fans if this happened.

It would be bad for the NFL too.
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I have no confidence in Irsay(alcoholic? something is not right with him his tweets really bother me) or the Polians to do the right thing.
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I think they would have to trade it. Maybe to a team like Washington, Buffalo, Cincinnati, or Seattle. That way, they would still have a top-ten, maybe top-five pick. They could get a guy like Barkley, Jones, or whomever they like. They would also get an additional 2nd, 3rd, and maybe more. They could get a receiver, running back, or some defensive players. The other option would be get Alshon Jeffery or Justin Blackmon with the first round pick they get, take a QB at the top of round two, and still have a second, and two thirds to play around with. This allows them to reload, take another shot at a championship, and still have a young QB for Manning to groom.

Now if it looks like Manning is done or won't be able to come back close to his normal level, Luck would be the pick.
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I have no confidence in Irsay(alcoholic? something is not right with him his tweets really bother me) or the Polians to do the right thing.
Irsay doesn't actually do most of the tweets. He has an assistant named Abby that does them.
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What about a team like Jacksonville, Carolina, Minnesota even? Not great QB situations but invested a 1st in a QB last year. They don't go Luck.
With the finest respect to Christian Ponder and Blaine Gabbert the only team with a second year QB that could pass on Luck is Carolina IMO. Everyone knows Newton will take time but he has the skillset to revolutionize the QB position(even if the odds are against him). Newtons upside and potential may warrant thr Panthers to look elsewhere.

Both Gabbert and Ponder were taken higher than they should have been last year because it was a poor QB class. If either team passes on Luck to roll the dice on their second year guy it is simply pure ignorance and stubborness
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Andrew Luck learning from Peyton Manning? Sweet baby jesus.
Exactly. The thought is pretty ridiculous. I've actually thought about this quite a bit since that news, and they are very likely to get the #1 pick without Peyton. Luck and it's a no brainer choice.


Luck is a different breed at QB, you don't pass him up under any circumstances. Besides he gets to pick Peyton's brain for a year or more and become even better? Yes please. This sets your franchise up for another 15 years with consistent elite QB play. Figure out the answer to the whens and hows later, take Luck and let the rest take care of itself.
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Yea, don't overthink it. YOu take Luck, and you have a better prospect than Aaron Rodgers, learning from a better QB than Brett Favre.... scary.

It's not like they can't reload around Manning while they wait too, they'll have luck, and the top pick in each round, that second rounder will basically be like where the Colts normally pick in the draft.
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Yea, don't overthink it. YOu take Luck, and you have a better prospect than Aaron Rodgers, learning from a better QB than Brett Favre.... scary.

It's not like they can't reload around Manning while they wait too, they'll have luck, and the top pick in each round, that second rounder will basically be like where the Colts normally pick in the draft.
This is a very good point.
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Yea, don't overthink it. YOu take Luck, and you have a better prospect than Aaron Rodgers, learning from a better QB than Brett Favre.... scary.

It's not like they can't reload around Manning while they wait too, they'll have luck, and the top pick in each round, that second rounder will basically be like where the Colts normally pick in the draft.
Bill Polian doesn't think like a normal human, he thinks more like a Super villain.

Like I said in the Peyton Manning injury thread, there has never been another team in a situation like the Colts could be in. The closest examples are:

Marino and the Dolphins - Coming off a Superbowl loss and have Dan Marino fall right into their laps. But that was at the very end of the round.

Young and the 49ers - They traded some peanuts for Steve Young and let him sit behind Montana. It was more of a reclamation project for them though.

Rodgers and the Packers - Again, the Packers were still a contending team who had Rodgers fall into their laps.


Now, I have a feeling that the Colts will win just enough games to render the #1 pick talk pointless, but even with a pick later in the top 10 they could still find themselves in position for another top QB prospect who they should definitely consider.
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Indy would be the luckiest ass team ever if they draft Peyton Manning #1 overall the year after they have total suckiness and then draft Andrew Luck #1 overall when Peyton is 36 and coming off neck surgery to be his heir apparent.

To answer the question, in this hypothetical scenario I think Indy takes Luck and doesn't think twice, but they could also trade that pick for a king's ransom if they want. Teams would be willing to pay Eli Manning type payment and more to get Luck. The thing is, if Indy drafts Luck and assuming Manning's neck is okay after this year, he probably has 4 more years left before he starts to really decline. I really think Manning could play until he's in his 40s b/c of his smarts and his quick release that rarely ever sees him get hit or hurt that much. Brett Favre got hit all the time and was always hurt, Manning doesn't even get hit that much in his career so far with his style of play. It would be more ideal for Indy to draft a succesor in about 2 years instead of right now.
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Joe Montana did play for the Chiefs guys, in case any of you forgot. Brett Favre for the Vikings? Just because Peyton has something left in the tank doesn't mean Indy has to committ to him every single year he wants to play football. Facts are nobody really knows what Peyton has left after missing a season due to neck surgery.


We don't know what level he'll play off, if his decline will start to be sharper, and it isn't crazy to think Luck in his 2nd year in the NFL would be better then Peyton at 38 years old. At least the difference wouldn't be that big considering Luck's arrow would be pointing straight up in the air and the Colts would be looking to find a replacement at the end of round 1 instead of prime position now.


I don't know why people keep acting like the Colts have no choice but to keep Peyton. I just see very little chance any team picking #1 trades, or doesn't take Luck. Especially the Colts who'd be looking at a 37 year old QB who just missed an entire season due to neck surgery.
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I'd still take Matt Barkley or Landry Jones if i'm the Colts. Those guys are studs talent-wise and have shown they can perform at the collegiate level. I'd just be interested in seeing how they turn out after being behind Manning for a few years.
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Indy would be the luckiest ass team ever if they draft Peyton Manning #1 overall the year after they have total suckiness and then draft Andrew Luck #1 overall when Peyton is 36 and coming off neck surgery to be his heir apparent.

To answer the question, in this hypothetical scenario I think Indy takes Luck and doesn't think twice, but they could also trade that pick for a king's ransom if they want. Teams would be willing to pay Eli Manning type payment and more to get Luck. The thing is, if Indy drafts Luck and assuming Manning's neck is okay after this year, he probably has 4 more years left before he starts to really decline. I really think Manning could play until he's in his 40s b/c of his smarts and his quick release that rarely ever sees him get hit or hurt that much. Brett Favre got hit all the time and was always hurt, Manning doesn't even get hit that much in his career so far with his style of play. It would be more ideal for Indy to draft a succesor in about 2 years instead of right now.
Great point. As long as the rest of Mannings career isn't at risk, they could easily hold off of picking up a heir for a couple more seasons. A couple of years of just sitting and learning is a major advantage to a young QB that most new guys just don't get.

However, if Luck is there, they just have to take him. Not because they need him, but because Luck is suck a rare prospect that they just can't pass on him.The odds that a QB of similar quality will be available in 2 years is low and they might not even be in a position to snag the QB if they don't have a top pick. Taking him also keeps him away from another team.

The beautiful thing would be that Luck would be perfect behind Manning. Luck is very humble and would welcome the chance to learn from one of the all time greats. He wouldn't be cocky and complain or anything. Luck also would be a great fit because he would be able to actually absorb and handle all the information that Manning uses, not every QB can mentally understand what Manning does. Luck has a masterful control of a fairly complex college offense and I believe that he could do the same at the next level with some time.
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I'd still take Matt Barkley or Landry Jones if i'm the Colts. Those guys are studs talent-wise and have shown they can perform at the collegiate level. I'd just be interested in seeing how they turn out after being behind Manning for a few years.
"Still take" as in "still take them even if they don't get Luck," right? Not "still take them over Luck," right?

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However, if Luck is there, they just have to take him. Not because they need him, but because Luck is suck a rare prospect that they just can't pass on him.The odds that a QB of similar quality will be available in 2 years is low and they might not even be in a position to snag the QB if they don't have a top pick. Taking him also keeps him away from another team.
This is some sort of horrible Freudian slip.
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What about a team like Jacksonville, Carolina, Minnesota even? Not great QB situations but invested a 1st in a QB last year. They don't go Luck.
Then they trade back, maybe even to number 2 or 3 and get a huge return.
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LMAO at not taking Luck because you have Gabbert or Ponder, hahahahahha
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"Still take" as in "still take them even if they don't get Luck," right? Not "still take them over Luck," right?

Because I agree with the former, and if the latter, well I challenge you to a duel sir. Pistols at dawn.
It is indeed the former. Also, you don't want to duel with me. I don't believe in pistols. I live by the border. You know how many AK47s i have?

But, since we both have a completely heterosexual (and not gey at all, like, totally not gey) infatuation with Mr. Andrew Luck, i will disregard this offense you've brought upon me and my family. Consider yourself lucky, sir.
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If I'm Minnesota or Jacksonville and I have the #1 pick I'd take Luck in a heartbeat unless Ponder or Gabbert have very good rookie seasons. Carolina is a little more of a difficult decision. If Newton is completely awful and they get #1 overall again they'd be foolish to pass on Luck. Unless they were convinced that Newton was a franchise QB it'd not make sense to pass on a guy they would've taken the year before without a doubt over Newton. It would certainly be interesting to see, a team drafting a QB #1 overall in consecutive years. Not to mention taking Clausen in round 2 the year before. It would really make Carolina's talent evaluators look like dopes.
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Say the Bills get the 5th pick, Colts 1st.
Say the Bills offer the Colts the 5th pick, their 2nd round pick and next year's 1st pick to the Colts for their first pick.
What then?
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Say the Bills get the 5th pick, Colts 1st.
Say the Bills offer the Colts the 5th pick, their 2nd round pick and next year's 1st pick to the Colts for their first pick.
What then?
Then the Colts hang up the phone.
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Say the Bills get the 5th pick, Colts 1st.
Say the Bills offer the Colts the 5th pick, their 2nd round pick and next year's 1st pick to the Colts for their first pick.
What then?
Take the trade. And then do one of these things

1). Take Barkley or Jones at five. At 33, take a receiver (Floyd or Fuller if available). Take a defensive back at 2:05
2). Take Alshon Jeffery or Justin Blackmon at five. Take Kirk Cousins, Nick Foles, or whomever else is their highest rated QB on the board. Take a defensive back at 2:05.
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Justin Blackmon, Nick Foles+ 2013 first rounder<<<<<Luck
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Then the Colts hang up the phone.
Exactly. I know people are coming up with hypotheticals, but with the contract hurdles out of the way for #1 picks that isn't NEARLY enough to get Luck. If that's all it's gonna take Harbaugh is a lock to get him. It'd be close to one of those mortaging an entire draft type of deal, Ricky Williams type of offer.


A 2nd and a 1st isn't gonna be enough no matter who it is. We've already seen much bigger offers then that in the draft, and if your just giving away a franchise QB I'd want more too, or just keep him.
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Doubt it. Manning will play for another 3-5 years for the Colts. I doubt they would take Luck and let him sit on the bench for at least two years. If they acquire Luck via the draft, well then they should trade him for future picks. Luck would demand a king's bounty.
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