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Also I don't see how why you think you can't win a SB with Romo, you state it with such certainty just because it hasn't happened yet there's little proof of this other than the fact that it hasn't happened yet. I get it, people like to make outrageous claims sometimes, Peyton and Brees got the same **** before they won their superbowls, but Romo has played at a good level where he isn't what'll hold a good enough team back.
Peyton Manning got it in spades especially. Up until his sixth season he always lost in the first game of the playoffs the Colts played. And he didn't win a championship until his 9th year.
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Oh, my bad. Didn't realize SWDC was the pinnacle of class and grace.
Look; if i'm an Eagles fan I hope that the Cowboys stick with Romo through 2020. I'm just telling it like it is: opposing teams know the Cowboy's QB is a joke. A flat-out joke. If the Cowboys ever got someone like Andrew Luck, and groomed him to be the franchise QB, that team would win *multiple* Super Bowls within the next decade. With Romo at the helm, they may not win another playoff game in this decade.
I don't understand why Cowboys fans constantly defend a 30+year old known choker of a QB. Don't you guys want to win Super Bowls ever again?
This is ridiculous. Andrew Luck hasn't even played a down in the NFL yet so it's absurd to make such an outlandish claim. He could very well end up being the next Jeff George. Steve Young was 32 when he finally won the Super Bowl so I'm not sure why you're bringing up age.
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Oh, my bad. Didn't realize SWDC was the pinnacle of class and grace.
This is ridiculous. Andrew Luck hasn't even played a down in the NFL yet so it's absurd to make such an outlandish claim. He could very well end up being the next Jeff George. Steve Young was 32 when he finally won the Super Bowl so I'm not sure why you're bringing up age.
Elway was 37 before he won one. Winning a Super Bowl is not an easy thing to do. The guy is 31. He still has time. And Romo is far better than anything Dallas has had since Aikman.
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Brilliant letting one of Scott Pioli's henchmen have his own team to ruin. One of the premier GM jobs in the NFL and it gets handed to a stupid **** who makes three facepalm moves for every good one. Awesome. Just like handing a new Mercedes to a 16 year old girl who's already been in three wrecks.
Is he a clutch qb? No. He's not a very good qb in the playoffs and he does make crushing mistakes many times in the regular season as well.
But what everyone fails to realize is, he's also had a lot of moments where he makes huge plays to win his team games in crunch time too. It's just that, bc he's the qb of the Dallas Cowboys, his shortcomings are put under a microscope. And bc he fails more than he succeeds in the clutch, we amplify that.
He's really not that different from Phillip Rivers, another qb who's a stat machine in the regular season who's underachieved in the postseason. But Philly plays for SD, and even SD doesn't give a damn about the Chargers so his shortcomings are largely ignored.
You can do a lot worse than Tony Romo.
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Look; if i'm an Eagles fan I hope that the Cowboys stick with Romo through 2020. I'm just telling it like it is: opposing teams know the Cowboy's QB is a joke. A flat-out joke. If the Cowboys ever got someone like Andrew Luck, and groomed him to be the franchise QB, that team would win *multiple* Super Bowls within the next decade. With Romo at the helm, they may not win another playoff game in this decade.
I don't understand why Cowboys fans constantly defend a 30+year old known choker of a QB. Don't you guys want to win Super Bowls ever again?
We'll see what happens when we play the eagles, buddy.
I've had some time to mull over it after the loss on Sunday.
Romo is a lot like Brett Favre, they both have that mentality that they want to make something happen on every play. This results in taking risks with the football that most QBs would never take. There are pros and cons to playing the game like this. How many times have fans begged Favre to just throw the football away instead of throwing that critical INT at the end of a game? Some of my most vivid football memories are of Brett Favre in the playoffs ending the game on a pick.
QBs like Romo and Favre are successful because they are so unpredictable and extremely aggressive, but they have also been labeled as chokers when their risks don't pay off. You can't change the way they play the game, they will never be game managers or conservative signal callers. The Cowboys are going to live and die by Tony Romo, just like the Packers lived and died by Favre. There will be some heartbreaking moments, but also some amazing ones.
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Farve has had a lot worse collapses in the big moments, too many to list them all. There was also the 2004 divisional playoff loss (in OT) at the Eagles in which Farve on the first play, threw a punt up and out 50 yards right for Brian Dawkins to practically fair catch. Game, season over.
He also was outplayed, at home, in the playoffs and lost to: Dante Culpepper and young Mike Vick. Also threw like 7 Ints and 3 pick-6's in a playoff loss to the Rams.
Now, granted, at least he made it to the big games. Romo has not even made it to a big game yet. Other than getting Donny McNabb, Dallas has still not won a playoff game since early in the Bill CLinton administration.
Don't forget, Brady has laid eggs in the playoffs for the most part since 2004.... Manning threw a pick to end that Super Bowl against the Saints.
This week, Roethlisberger and Ryan were also atrocious and donated turnovers like a hooker on clearance.
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Romo needs to be better when it matters most. He folds late in games, not only in the playoffs, but in the regular season as well. I could be wrong and maybe he's done it once or twice, but when I've seen him, he throws that crutial interception when trying to win the game on the last drive or tie it.
It just seems like he tenses up. He's good for the first 3 and half quarters and heck some times great. But I don't see him winning a championship unless the Cowboys go into every game with a two score lead heading into the 4th quarter.
Is he a clutch qb? No. He's not a very good qb in the playoffs and he does make crushing mistakes many times in the regular season as well.
But what everyone fails to realize is, he's also had a lot of moments where he makes huge plays to win his team games in crunch time too. It's just that, bc he's the qb of the Dallas Cowboys, his shortcomings are put under a microscope. And bc he fails more than he succeeds in the clutch, we amplify that.
He's really not that different from Phillip Rivers, another qb who's a stat machine in the regular season who's underachieved in the postseason. But Philly plays for SD, and even SD doesn't give a damn about the Chargers so his shortcomings are largely ignored.
You can do a lot worse than Tony Romo.
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Romo giveth and he taketh away. Anyone who thinks he doesn't make clutch plays to win games, I can name literally a dozen examples where you are wrong.
Against eventual Super Bowl champs, Romo leads game-winning TD drive with 6 min to play, then makes game-clinching throws to run the clock out and drive the nail in the coffin
Romo plays near-perfect game versus undefeated Saints to take a commanding lead. After Saints roar back to within 7, Romo leads game-clinching drive with 8min to go, all the way down to Saint 6 yard line. Nick Folk misses game-clinching 24 yard kick.
.....and I could go on.
Romo is held to a different standard, because he was proclaimed loudly as the heir apparent to America's Team and the next great wtfever.
He has had many successes and many failures.
At this point in time, it would appear that he's definitely not in the conversation with the real greats like Manning, Brady, Brees and maybe Ben. However, there's nothing to say that he's not just as good as the next pack of QBs like Rivers, Rodgers (although he might be in the process of making The Leap), Vick, Eli etc.
Romo is not a transcendent player who will will you to great things. But if you build a championship caliber team around him, he's not going to keep you from it, either. He's a very good but not great player. Pretty simple.
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I came in here to laugh at everyone, but I just decided to watch the video of Favre's interception that J-Mike posted. That ladies and gents is why I am trying everything I can to not live in Minnesota....they are angry people.