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Old 09-27-2011, 01:09 PM    (permalink
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He's on track to earn his Masters this spring, and has said that if he comes back for his last year of eligibility, he's going to enroll in law school.

Impressive kid, for sure.

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You guys will hate him once the Cowboys draft him.


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I don't see the first round hype with him. His athleticism is over-rated (he's a long strider) and his accuracy is hit or miss.

edit: While he may not be that "typical athletic QB", he struggles from the same things they do. Poor mechanics and Poor accuracy.
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I don't see the first round hype with him. His athleticism is over-rated (he's a long strider) and his accuracy is hit or miss.

edit: While he may not be that "typical athletic QB", he struggles from the same things they do. Poor mechanics and Poor accuracy.
I'm not sure you can overrate his athletic ability. He's an Olympic caliber athlete, long strider or not.

He's also completing 85% of his passes right now. Gimmick offense, level of competition...sure. But that's impressive no matter which way you slice it. It's not like it's all easy throws. I've seen him complete back shoulder lasers, position balls in the right place on the sideline, and just rape on the deep ball.

I just don't see mechanical and accuracy issues like some do. Even still, those things don't keep you out of the first round anymore. See Blaine Gabbert. He's got ridiculous upside and top notch intangibles on top of it. That's generally a winning combination, even with some rawness. He's nowhere near as raw as some people think though.
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IMO if you liked Newton/Locker/Gabbert, I don't see why an NFL team wouldn't head over heels for the chance to draft Griffin.

I'm at the point if a guy looks like he can pass in college and appears to have good arm strength, I'm assuming his throwing skillset translates to the NFL.

I see plenty of velocity and accuracy when RGIII throws the football. His intangibles are pure Eagle Scout and I love his deep ball accuracy.
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IMO if you liked Newton/Locker/Gabbert, I don't see why an NFL team wouldn't head over heels for the chance to draft Griffin.

I'm at the point if a guy looks like he can pass in college and appears to have good arm strength, I'm assuming his throwing skillset translates to the NFL.

I see plenty of velocity and accuracy when RGIII throws the football. His intangibles are pure Eagle Scout and I love his deep ball accuracy.
I do NOT love the deep ball accuracy. I love the WRs adjusting to them. He consistently overthrows or underthrows his receivers, and they make the catch anyway. There is a reason Kendall Wright is on Scott's HOT list.

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How can you tell RGIII is overthrowing WRs if they make the catch in stride??lol
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IMO if you liked Newton/Locker/Gabbert, I don't see why an NFL team wouldn't head over heels for the chance to draft Griffin.

I'm at the point if a guy looks like he can pass in college and appears to have good arm strength, I'm assuming his throwing skillset translates to the NFL.

I see plenty of velocity and accuracy when RGIII throws the football. His intangibles are pure Eagle Scout and I love his deep ball accuracy.
It's getting to that point, it would seem.

Again, it's easier than ever before to be an NFL QB. You have to be really, really crappy to not be an effective NFL QB anymore.

Anyways, if RGIII keeps this up, he'll end up being the #2 QB on a lot of team's boards. Whether he's drafted there depends on a number of unforseeable variables.
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He now has more incompletions than TD. The fact that we can first say that in October is telling. K-State had a great game plan to take Baylor down, and it worked, finally.

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did they even? He still had a great game, his one interception was because he got crushed.

And I understand how fast he is, but his speed hasn't really wowed me on the football field. Not like Vick who looked the fastest player on the field, which Griffin apparently is.

Now he's obviously a great player, I just was expecting a more dynamic runner for how fast he is.
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Griffin has more straight line speed, he isn't as agile as Vick.
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Vick has better straight line speed football wise than RG3.(Well old Vick)
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I like that RGIII's running ability doesn't overshadow his entire game. He has mobility and speed but he's not a gifted runner.

If only Baylor had a defense. I'd like to see Griffin in a bowl game, besides the Senior Bowl.
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That WR for Baylor Kendall Wright seems be getting overshadowed...he is legit. I like him a lot.

If Baylor played a more ball control type offense I think there defense would be better but they seem to be a quick strike offense which leads to that defense being gassed.
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I like that RGIII's running ability doesn't overshadow his entire game. He has mobility and speed but he's not a gifted runner.

If only Baylor had a defense. I'd like to see Griffin in a bowl game, besides the Senior Bowl.
No one in the Big...the conference in the middle of the country...plays defense. So they fit right in.
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I have him ranked 4th behind Landry Jones as the best QB's for the draft. He has improved his stock a lot, but we will see if he can keep up this type of production. Right now I'd probably have him as a 2nd rounder, maybe sneeking in as a late 1st.
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I wouldnt mind seeing the Eagles draft him and having Reid groom him the next couple seasons behind Vick.
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I have him ranked 4th behind Landry Jones as the best QB's for the draft. He has improved his stock a lot, but we will see if he can keep up this type of production. Right now I'd probably have him as a 2nd rounder, maybe sneeking in as a late 1st.
I don't think it's fair to ask him to maintain this level of production. If he does...great. But it's sort of an impossible standard to live up to throughout the season. He'll probably go through a stretch where he's as productive as he was last year, which was VERY productive....just not ungodly productive.
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His running is like VY, not particularly agile but great in a straight line and has some wiggle.
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Oh yea, he has a 150.8 NFL QB rating...not bad lol. Utterly useless stat but still quite impressive.
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I don't think it's fair to ask him to maintain this level of production. If he does...great. But it's sort of an impossible standard to live up to throughout the season. He'll probably go through a stretch where he's as productive as he was last year, which was VERY productive....just not ungodly productive.
Hell no; people are on crack. If he maintains this level of production, he overtakes Luck as the #1 pick in the draft. 80% completion rate = #1 pick.

Fortunate for Luck, he almost certainly won't maintain this level of production.
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Hell no; people are on crack. If he maintains this level of production, he overtakes Luck as the #1 pick in the draft. 80% completion rate = #1 pick.

Fortunate for Luck, he almost certainly won't maintain this level of production.
Even if he did keep up his production there is no way he would overtake Luck as the number 1 pick.

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If the Chiefs happen to win enough games to be out of the Andrew Luck prize, then I want RGIII over Jones and Barkley.

I think RGIII is going to be special in the NFL!
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I think he will too and I'm a huge RG3 fan. Good deep ball, smart, good awareness.. I think he could be a player in this league.
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