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Old 10-15-2011, 02:37 PM    (permalink
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I think rg3 should be drafted in the 2nd or 3rd as a qb and Tanehill looks like an NFL quarterberack much more so than RG3 and Tannehill has not played qb as long.
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I thought he played pretty well today, but there was some uncharacteristic frustration from him in the second half and he really forced some throws. Baylor couldn't protect in the interior today and he was really forced to make quick decisions or scramble. He did some real nice things overall though, the placement on the deep ball to Terrence Williams was picture perfect.
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I think rg3 should be drafted in the 2nd or 3rd as a qb and Tanehill looks like an NFL quarterberack much more so than RG3 and Tannehill has not played qb as long.
Were we watching the same game?

As EE said, RG III showed frustration, but had a fine stat game, despite no time and heavy coverage. Tannehill had a coke and two bites on a sandwich before he checked his receivers.

This game reminds me, in a small way, of the QB debate before the Stafford/Sanchez/Freeman draft. Luck is apart, above, and none of this. I think Tannehill is the Sanchez, RG III the Freeman, and Matt Barkley the Stafford. My point being, that you should not ignore the QB with the most weight to carry, just because he cannot win against much better manpower.

That being said, calling Tannehill a Sanchez is no insult. The body of work is small, but the results are there.

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I believe A&M is the worst passing defense in 1-A football. His throws down the field are impressive but there are a lot of screen passes in that offense too.
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I believe A&M is the worst passing defense in 1-A football. His throws down the field are impressive but there are a lot of screen passes in that offense too.
There's a lot of screens in college football right now. You really can't hold that against a guy when he's demonstrated down field ability.
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There's a lot of screens in college football right now. You really can't hold that against a guy when he's demonstrated down field ability.
It does inflate the stats though. The previous poster brought up his stat line from the A&M game.
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It does inflate the stats though. The previous poster brought up his stat line from the A&M game.
When you're completing passes close to an 80% clip and throwing the ball down the field regularly(10.71 YPA doesn't come from YAC from bubble screens), stat inflation only matters so much. Deflate his stats a notch or two and they're still damn impressive.
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Yea I'm not denying he isn't an impressive QB putting together a great season just want folks to take everything into account. I'm not a fanboy of his though and he would as a prospect he would be 5th behind Luck, Jones, Barkley and Tannehill.

It seems people get crucified for not just pandering to the Griffin hype.
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I could definitely see the Raiders trading up for him if they had the picks to do it. Perhaps a package of Bush, this years 1st and a future 2nd or 3rd could get them into the mid-teens to swap with a team like the Bengals.
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I could definitely see the Raiders trading up for him if they had the picks to do it. Perhaps a package of Bush, this years 1st and a future 2nd or 3rd could get them into the mid-teens to swap with a team like the Bengals.
Without Campbell, they wont have to trade anything to get into the mid teens. RG III wont last that long. #12 on the outside.

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Is RGIII a lock for the top 10???
He's having an insane season for Baylor.
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I seriously doubt RGIII goes in round 1 and I doubt Tannehill goes in the first 3 rounds.
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This kid is smart and was a track athlete in high school this kid will blow up at the combine will be the future QB of the washington redskins and a top 10 pick.
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Obviously stat leaders are only a small part of the QB picture, but they are never completely useless.

Updated: 11/6/2011 - 10:57 AM
RANK PLAYER SCHOOL GP ATT COMP PCT INT YARDS TD RAT
1. Russell Wilson Wisconsin 9 201 144 71.64 3 2238 21 196.66
2. Case Keenum Houston 9 347 257 74.06 3 3626 34 192.44
3. Robert Griffin III Baylor 8 273 202 73.99 4 2781 26 188.06
4. Kellen Moore Boise St. 8 259 192 74.13 5 2229 29 179.51
5. Andrew Luck Stanford 9 272 194 71.32 5 2424 26 174.05

I have to knock Wilson, because no one else has the Badger ground game. Keenum and Moore have a "system" tag to deal with, though Keenum is probably better than that.

Some others:

11. Brandon Weeden Oklahoma St. 9 391 282 72.12 9 3212 26 158.47
15. Landry Jones Oklahoma 9 393 254 64.63 9 3349 28 155.14
18. Matt Barkley Southern Californi a 9 342 229 66.96 6 2608 28 154.52
47. Ryan Tannehill Texas A&M 9 369 232 62.87 10 2701 20 136.82

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Love his upside, worried about his tendency to drop his eyes to look at the rush. That facet of his game will need to be reprogrammed.
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He led a gerat comeback today against my Jayhawks. Bittersweet. RG III went 22 of 29, 3 TD, 1 Int and had thre bad quarters.

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He led a gerat comeback today against my Jayhawks. Bittersweet. RG III went 22 of 29, 3 TD, 1 Int and had thre bad quarters.

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Baylor had four fumbles in the first half. I was under the impression those weren't on Griffin. Didn't see the game, heard some on the radio.

THe Bears suck on defense so when a team like Kansas gets up on them, I can't say that RGIII had a bad game.
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I seriously doubt RGIII goes in round 1 and I doubt Tannehill goes in the first 3 rounds.
QB gurus will look at these guys and get a boner. Considering how athletic RGIII is and how good of an arm he has -especially downfield - I would be shocked if he doesn't go in round one. Same with Tannehill going in the first 3 rounds. At very worst that guy will be a round 3 developmental pick, probably more likely he goes somewhere in round one or two though.
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Robert Griffin is god and anything else is just lies and blasphemy.


But seriously, impressive as hell tonight. The stat sheet and the highlights don't tell the whole story either. He hit Wright for a BOMB early in the game that called got called back. He also hit Williams and Reese for would be touchdowns in stride only to have them drop the ball....but just impressive, impressive stuff. Certainly has to be moving up some boards.
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Top-15 lock? Alot of teams need quarterbacks this year.
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But seriously, impressive as hell tonight. The stat sheet and the highlights don't tell the whole story either. He hit Wright for a BOMB early in the game that called got called back. He also hit Williams and Reese for would be touchdowns in stride only to have them drop the ball....but just impressive, impressive stuff. Certainly has to be moving up some boards.
Griffin throws one hell of a deep ball.

The guy has all the potential in the world. People see him and immediately think he's a gimmick guy, or a scrambler. He doesn't want to run. He wants to throw the ball and he can do it very well.
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Top-15 lock? Alot of teams need quarterbacks this year.
He should be #1 but he isn't going to be at least I hope if the Colts are drafting.
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Griffin is unbelievable. Has amazing talent and is now a lock to go in the top 5. Tonight was his signature game. At this point, as a Dolphin fan, I want Griffin as the consolation prize for not getting Luck instead of Barkley. I think RG3 translates very well to the pros and he also seems like he's coachable and won't be a headcase.
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I love RG3. I put $25 on him to win the Heisman at the beginning of the year at 20:1 odds.
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Just a flat out MONSTA!!! Griffin is a lock for the top 10, and may end up being the 2nd QB after Luck.
If Barkley comes out, there could be three QBs taken in the top 5.

Is there any question that RGIII has surpassed Landry Jones on many team's draft boards???

I think Griffin could be that bridge QB between Steve Young and Mike Vick, meaning he's a prospect with nearly Vick's athletic ability but who processes the game cerebrally like Steve Young.
RGIII's deep ball accuracy is just scary. That alone would have made him a first round pick.
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