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Old 03-03-2013, 11:14 PM    (permalink
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Are you kidding me Gonzo? You want the writers to spend time on a kid with asthma? That would be completely pointless. And you missed the point of even showing that kid. Yes, it was part to show Andrea disagreeing with him. But it was more to tell us about the Governor. The fact that he doesn't care about anything but power. The fact that he'll use a young kid who can't even run more than ten feet as basically a human shield so he can get more power. Nobody cares about that kid's backstory because he is nothing more than a pawn of the Governor.
"It's pointless to make the viewers invested in the characters"

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Hush, tonight was a damn good episode and you know it boy.
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the best part was when he told carl to watch The Wire :)
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Hush, tonight was a damn good episode and you know it boy.
I agree, except for Magic Michonne teleporting in and out of a restaurant offscreen. What the hell was that?
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I agree, except for Magic Michonne teleporting in and out of a restaurant offscreen. What the hell was that?



Great episode I really enjoyed it. Carl is really growing on me this season.
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Great episode I really enjoyed it. Carl is really growing on me this season.
I know it saves money to just have things occur offscreen but even the biggest fan has to admit that was stupid. Carl is standing there with his back on the door, zombies inside clawing at it, and Michonne just walks offscreen, goes through the backdoor (that neither Carl or Michonne decided to take while running away while inside) and magically grabs two objects without alerting any of the zombies.
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Solid episode tonite. Tied up some loose ends.

And agree on Carl growing on the viewers this season.
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Great episode. I wish the show was that good with any kind of consistency. There were a few moments that fell flat but really that has to be one of my favorite episodes of the series so far. It really is unfortunate that Carl is an awful actor.
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How come no one on The Walking Dead uses the term "zombie?" It bugs me. Are they living in a version of the world where that's not actually a fantasy concept people have come up with prior to this whole ordeal?
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I know it saves money to just have things occur offscreen but even the biggest fan has to admit that was stupid. Carl is standing there with his back on the door, zombies inside clawing at it, and Michonne just walks offscreen, goes through the backdoor (that neither Carl or Michonne decided to take while running away while inside) and magically grabs two objects without alerting any of the zombies.
Its not stupid at all Zombies were much more concerned about clawing at Carl. Zombies are not smart or strategic creatures. They see something living and chase it. So as long as Michonne does not do anything to alert the zombies they will chase after its original focus.
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How come no one on The Walking Dead uses the term "zombie?" It bugs me. Are they living in a version of the world where that's not actually a fantasy concept people have come up with prior to this whole ordeal?
They just have kept with the term "walkers" from the beginning.

Never really noticed before though.


I do like that Rick is slowly coming back to normal though.
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They just have kept with the term "walkers" from the beginning.

Never really noticed before though.
Various people Rick and Co. have encountered have had different terms for them though. None seem familiar with the concept of zombie, haha.

Oh well.
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Also, what did you guys think with them ignoring the man on the side of the road looking for help (i understood that part, because Rick doesn't trust **** anymore) but their attitude of seeing that the guy was attacked and eaten when they were driving back. Then they just stopped to pick up his supplies.

Just showing how accustomed they have grown to the world that stuff like that doesn't bother them anymore?
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The title comes from Shaun of the Dead, which gave this a Lampshade Hanging, as seen in the page quote: Shaun doesn't like it because it makes him nervous, but the real reason they're not supposed to say it is because they're in a zombie movie.

A subtrope of the Sci Fi Ghetto. Can be used to highlight how their monsters are different. Suppose your monsters are rotting shambling undead that want to drink your blood. Call them zombies and every casual reader's going to assume they're after "braaaaaiiinnss," while calling them vampires brings up images of old black-&-white horror movies and Anne Rice. Of course, when it's used to force a sense of "realism" (we don't call them "zombies" because zombies aren't real), it smacks painfully of Genre Blindness. If you were confronted by what appears to be a member of the walking dead, how much effort would you spend coming up with an alternative name?

One of the more Genre Savvy reasons is that the walking dead technically aren't zombies. The proper "zombie" is a person whose higher thought processes have been removed, leaving them under the sway of a master. This original zombie is usually the result of occult vodou magic. Some books, such as The Serpent and the Rainbow, argue that vodou practitioners actually can create zombies through a combination of drugs and cultural beliefs. "P-zombies", or "philosophical zombies", are even more convoluted — persons who don't have any subjective "experience".

Compare to Differently Powered Individual (for superheroes), Comic Book Movies Don't Use Codenames (for superheroic individuals) A Mech By Any Other Name (for Humongous Mecha), Magic By Any Other Name and Speak of the Devil. See also Call a Rabbit a "Smeerp", Fantastic Slur, The Scottish Trope, and T-Word Euphemism. When used for non-fantastic things and attributes, it may be an attempt to show and not tell.
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Great episode. I wish the show was that good with any kind of consistency. There were a few moments that fell flat but really that has to be one of my favorite episodes of the series so far. It really is unfortunate that Carl is an awful actor.
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Its not stupid at all Zombies were much more concerned about clawing at Carl. Zombies are not smart or strategic creatures. They see something living and chase it. So as long as Michonne does not do anything to alert the zombies they will chase after its original focus.
Pretty much. Michonne is supposed to be ninja-like and we've seen her ability to sneak around. Makes enough sense that she was able to go around back, sneak in, grab the picture and the hideous art thing, and sneak back out.
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Sometimes you pluck one early and get lucky. Also, Madmen never had to feature the kids in any kind of major role. They were just kind of there until the show's writers discovered they had some talent on their hands. Carl is a bit more essential. Madmen got lucky, TWD is doing its best to work around what they ended up with.

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Also, what did you guys think with them ignoring the man on the side of the road looking for help (i understood that part, because Rick doesn't trust **** anymore) but their attitude of seeing that the guy was attacked and eaten when they were driving back. Then they just stopped to pick up his supplies.

Just showing how accustomed they have grown to the world that stuff like that doesn't bother them anymore?
I think the importance of it was more towards the end - after Rick had reunited with Morgan. There was a lot of character development that occurred for Rick, Michonne, and Carl in that trip to town. Mostly for Rick, though. He is re-learning he can still trust some people and that he doesn't have to shutdown all outsiders. He doesn't want to end up like Morgan.

I think we were supposed to gather that they would have picked up the backpacker on the way back (the show is often bad at delivering its message through facial expressions).
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Great episode, glad to see Morgan back and I agree it wont be the last time we see Morgan. Maybe he'll have some time to think and get his mind back.
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That town looked just about cleared out and he'd designed a great defense against walkers.. Not sure why they don't all move in with Morgan and have their own town...
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That town looked just about cleared out and he'd designed a great defense against walkers.. Not sure why they don't all move in with Morgan and have their own town...
Great defense against walkers. Not a great defense against the Governor though despite a few random traps.
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Well he's still kind of messed up in the head I wouldn't rush into that right now.
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Also the guilt trip he gave Rick about not answering on the walkie talkie and listening for him every night but he never came...

Rick seriously gets blamed for everything.
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Great defense against walkers. Not a great defense against the Governor though despite a few random traps.
The Governor doesn't know the place exists.
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How come no one on The Walking Dead uses the term "zombie?" It bugs me. Are they living in a version of the world where that's not actually a fantasy concept people have come up with prior to this whole ordeal?
I'm fairly certain the comic exists in a world where zombies aren't a pop-culture phenomenon, therefore nobody in the universe knows to refer to the dead as zombies.

A great, slower paced episode. Rick/Morgan really gave great performances and I honestly liked what they did with Carl. He is still one of the worst characters on the show, but he has developed to the point that he is substantially better than he has been.

I can't wait till the Governor storyline is resolved.
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