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Old 11-21-2013, 08:18 AM    (permalink
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I think this season has been fine, for the most part. I don't understand the hate.
I just want to point out how this particular conversation got started, and that none of the people who usually bash the show were involved until mentioned/alluded to by certain people. Hell, even nepg was praising this last episode.
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Old 11-21-2013, 08:35 AM    (permalink
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I just want to point out how this particular conversation got started, and that none of the people who usually bash the show were involved until mentioned/alluded to by certain people. Hell, even nepg was praising this last episode.
Well that's not really true. Gonzo was the first person to comment on the episode calling it awful.
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Old 11-21-2013, 09:18 AM    (permalink
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Well that's not really true. Gonzo was the first person to comment on the episode calling it awful.
Missed that, but no one really acknowledged it and from there it was pretty much everyone in agreement that the episode was great. But youre right, I didn't see Gonzo's post.
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Old 11-23-2013, 10:23 AM    (permalink
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The hate stems from the fact that it could be such a better show if they knew at all what they were doing.

My personal problem with it is how many god damn sheep there are that keep spouting off how amazing it is. It's not an amazing show. It has never been an amazing show. And yet, all people do it regurgitate the same thing over and over: "but look at the ratingzzzz11!111!11!!!"

It's an ok show about zombies, that's why I watch, and if you guys don't understand that yet then you never will.
This is 100% true it is an OK show about zombies. It is not a god awful terrible show about zombies.
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Old 11-23-2013, 11:14 AM    (permalink
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He should rephrase that to it can be an ok show about zombies, but about 1/3rd of every season's episodes are pretty awful.
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not sure what my opinion is on that episode. I might have to rewatch it to make a decision - but I likely will not rewatch it.
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I've enjoyed the Governor episodes quite a lot.
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Old 11-26-2013, 04:31 PM    (permalink
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I liked it. The governor is back to form. The trapped zombies in the mud was the final nail to tickle his fetish about being in control.
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He should rephrase that to it can be an ok show about zombies, but about 1/3rd of every season's episodes are pretty awful.
I'm sorry but Vidae is infallible and correct in all things also never makes mistakes thus there is nothing that should have been said but on things he says just are you'll just have to deal with it.
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this season so far has been very good. For the first time it's actually pulling off things like basic emotion and some character nuances. I liked the governor eps but am a little disappointed that it ended up a complete circle for the character. still, good excuse to spend time with a terrific actor and flesh out an underdeveloped, borderline nonsensical up to this point antagonist. Looking forward to the midseason finale.
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I liked this past episode. I thought it was much better than the previous episode.
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At this point I hope he blows up the jail and everyone in it with that tank.
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hahahaha stuff and thangs is the best part of that. 'stuff...'
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We're on a whole new level of kids nailing head shots.

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I thought it was common knowledge that she was.
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Final showdown of Governor's Group vs. Rick's Group.

Governor's Group, despite the superior numbers and firepower, kills exactly one speaking/named character.

Rick's Group, despite overcoming a plague, kills everyone of Governor's Group.

A bunch of little girls in Rick's Group is more effective than anyone in Governor's Group.

The Governor, the only developed character on the show over the past season or so, is killed off.

Montone Michonne, Useless Beth, and the rest of the one-dimensional characters survive.

The Governor, who has fantasized about torturing Monotone Michonne, doesn't execute her despite holding her hostage.

Monotone Michonne, who has lusted about slaughtering The Governor, stabs him once and lets him go.

Monotone Michonne, after apathetically stabbing The Governor, helps Rick up and abruptly vanishes into thin air.

Lesbo Sister, follows suit, and abruptly vanishes into thin air with no one noticing.

Straight Sister, hangs out around the area despite heavy gunfire and an approaching herd.

Straight Sister executes the only interesting character on the show.

Rick's Group is separated, giving us a half season (at least) of "WE HAVE TO FIND EACH OTHER" drama.

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I liked it. Predictable, some ridiculousness, but there was some good action.

It's a zombie show, not high art. They gave me what I needed, which was lots of guts and action.
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Alex, at this point you are just a predictable piece of garbage. You are just finding stuff to ***** about. I'll take them individually.

Why was Rick's group so mich more successful? Well, for one they were much more trained. They have been through countless battles.The Governor's group was a bunch of pussies with one or two fighters. Or you could go with the obvios reason or the Governor's group being in an open field while the prison folks were about to get protected positions.

If you think the Governor is the only character with development you either haven't been watching or youare just being bitchy. I wonder which one is true for you. You complain when he doesn't die. You complain when he dies.

Why does the Governor kill Herschel and not Michonne? One, the death of Herschel would have more impact on the prison than Michonne. Second, you answered your own question. He dreamed of torturing her. The Governor obviously thought he would easily take the prison. Keeping Michonne alive allows him to have some fun later.

And why did Michonnejust stab him once? Hmmm, maybe to make him suffer? He didn't deserve a quick death. Michonne wanted him to die slowly, either by bleeding out or walkers.
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Also, based on many of your points, it looks like you haven't read the comics as this episode was almost completely based on the comics.
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I really liked that episode. Lots of awesome and hilarious moments.
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Final showdown of Governor's Group vs. Rick's Group.

Governor's Group, despite the superior numbers and firepower, kills exactly one speaking/named character.

Rick's Group, despite overcoming a plague, kills everyone of Governor's Group.
Already explained above. Battle-tested group w/cover vs. green group in the open.

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The Governor, the only developed character on the show over the past season or so, is killed off.
They kill random characters all the time and we complain about it. They actually give us a meaningful death and you're still complaining? What else could they have done with the Governor? His story was over. There was nothing left to explore with him.

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Montone Michonne, Useless Beth, and the rest of the one-dimensional characters survive.
Who's Beth?

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The Governor, who has fantasized about torturing Monotone Michonne, doesn't execute her despite holding her hostage.
This was already explained, but threatening Herschel's life had more impact on more of the group that was in the prison. As far as the Governor knew, the group still wasn't sure of Michonne.

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Monotone Michonne, who has lusted about slaughtering The Governor, stabs him once and lets him go.

Monotone Michonne, after apathetically stabbing The Governor, helps Rick up and abruptly vanishes into thin air.
1. I can accept numerous explanations of Michonne's killing of the Governor. The most logical is she stabbed him and felt he didn't deserve being finished off. 2. She does that. That's kind of been her thing since forever.

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Lesbo Sister, follows suit, and abruptly vanishes into thin air with no one noticing.
Straight Sister, hangs out around the area despite heavy gunfire and an approaching herd.

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1. She was quivering behind the tank. I'm sure we'll get an update when the show resumes. 1/2. There was a ton of action happening. It's unrealistic to expect a camera on every character 100% of the time.

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Rick's Group is separated, giving us a half season (at least) of "WE HAVE TO FIND EACH OTHER" drama.
Legitimate concern considering Season 2, but let's hope for the best. The last 3 episodes have been legitimately good.

The half-season finale was a great episode. Aside from the Pedobear-Approved moment, it was just great. Really encapsulated everything the show CAN be (and why we complain when it's not).
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Great episode. Rick just looked like he came from hell towards the end.
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