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View Poll Results: Which team has the best chance at survivng their first scenario?
Team Gun Slingers 7 17.95%
Team Falcon Punch 5 12.82%
Team Zed Faced Killas 9 23.08%
Team Tits 18 46.15%
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Old 10-20-2011, 11:10 PM    (permalink
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Whoever voted for the damn mountain bike after my warning we are killing you off dammit!
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Horses spook easily in TV shows because it makes for good drama. In real life horses can detect movement and sound from greater distances than humans and would be of far more assistance in this mission than you may be able to understand.
Horses are irrational animals, as some one who grew up heavily involved with them.

I think the thing you are missing is the amount of training it takes for both horse and rider to be able to do what you guys want to do, riding a horse is not easy, period, riding a horse and operating weaponry takes a SHITTON of training, horses don't like loud noises, they don't like sudden movements by riders and it takes a hell of a lot of training just to get them accustomed to a rider in general.

They also really don't offer that much in carrying capacity unless you are bringing along pack horses as well, you can't put a boatload of weight on them or you lose all mobility and the type of saddlebags that would be required to actually carry sufficient food/ammo would make them very noisy, both the saddlebags and the horses.

Horses are never quite animals, especially in packs.

Basically horses are the worst form of transport for mine, only just because mountain bikes have a lot of these issues also but the unpredictability and noise/trail that horses make slightly trump their carrying capacity for edge on the bikes.

Got to throw in, given some of the things that startle horses, I imagine the undead would probably give them a fair fright and whoever brought up the having to keep watch on them also makes a great point.

Either way, I don't see how you can't vote for one of the two car based teams on a supply run, purely on carrying capacity.

I also question whether it is a 30 minute trip regardless of transport type or if it should be a 30 minute trip for a specific type of transport, I mean regardless 30 min on a bike or horse is a significantly longer trip for the human than by car, but surely the added speed should be a benefit to these vehicle choices?
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You clearly misinterpreted the meaning of the words 'mountain' bike.
To be honest when I read it and reread and reread it and reread it again I read Dirt Bike every time. Now that I know it is a mountain bike it makes it even worse! If someone gets hurt how are they going to get back? Like breaking a leg or something...you can't peddle back...plus with all the supplies on your back and peddling uphill you are gunna get tired fast!
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Horses are irrational animals, as some one who grew up heavily involved with them.

I think the thing you are missing is the amount of training it takes for both horse and rider to be able to do what you guys want to do, riding a horse is not easy, period, riding a horse and operating weaponry takes a SHITTON of training, horses don't like loud noises, they don't like sudden movements by riders and it takes a hell of a lot of training just to get them accustomed to a rider in general.

They also really don't offer that much in carrying capacity unless you are bringing along pack horses as well, you can't put a boatload of weight on them or you lose all mobility and the type of saddlebags that would be required to actually carry sufficient food/ammo would make them very noisy, both the saddlebags and the horses.

Horses are never quite animals, especially in packs.

Basically horses are the worst form of transport for mine, only just because mountain bikes have a lot of these issues also but the unpredictability and noise/trail that horses make slightly trump their carrying capacity for edge on the bikes.

Got to throw in, given some of the things that startle horses, I imagine the undead would probably give them a fair fright and whoever brought up the having to keep watch on them also makes a great point.

Either way, I don't see how you can't vote for one of the two car based teams on a supply run, purely on carrying capacity.

I also question whether it is a 30 minute trip regardless of transport type or if it should be a 30 minute trip for a specific type of transport, I mean regardless 30 min on a bike or horse is a significantly longer trip for the human than by car, but surely the added speed should be a benefit to these vehicle choices?
We were under the impression the mission was not about how much you carried, but about getting in and out of the Walmart safely, without attracting any zombies which a car would clearly do. Obviously we were mistaken and punished for that. I still don't know how the damn horse group beat us though.
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I think the team that didn't submit a strategy and didn't even participate in the mission should lose a person for being lazy pieces of **** and not doing anything.
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I think the team that didn't submit a strategy and didn't even participate in the mission should lose a person for being lazy pieces of **** and not doing anything.
Who else was in this besides us 4 groups?

We might as well continue with who we have. If they didn't make the first mission, they probably done goofed and got ate.

That is, unless they're guys I like. Then Bantx should obviously make an exception as long as they only have 3 members like Kal said!
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Question for Team Tits. How do you plan on locking the doors at Wal-Mart? You need a key to lock those automatic sliding doors. Where are you going to find that key? Is one of the team members just coincidentally the manager of the store?
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Who else was in this besides us 4 groups?

We might as well continue with who we have. If they didn't make the first mission, they probably done goofed and got ate.

That is, unless they're guys I like. Then Bantx should obviously make an exception as long as they only have 3 members like Kal said!
What if it's Bantx's group?
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I think the second group has the best conop. violence of action almost always trumps stealth. zombies are slow plodding creatures but they don't sleep and they don't get tired, so you can assume if they're around they'll be on constant patrol. With the truck and the higher caliber weapons systems, they're in; they're out and they're better equipped to defend themselves against an attack.

Horses? In theory it could be could work out, but riding horses is a skill. If you're not skilled horseman, and if you don't have trained horses...it will be a disaster. Not to mention, if your mode of transportation is a living creature, can't it get infected by the zombies? That's all you need, is a 1,200 lbs beast that can run like the wind after your brains...am I wrong?

The shark suits are clever, but they are going to slow you down something fierce. Armor is rarely worth what you sacrifice in maneuverability when you're in a fight.
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Not to mention, if your mode of transportation is a living creature, can't it get infected by the zombies?
No, that is false.
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Yeah I strongly advised against bikes. Kal was the one who pushed for it. I voted some sort of armor plated truck or van.
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Yeah I strongly advised against bikes. Kal was the one who pushed for it. I voted some sort of armor plated truck or van.
Woah...I brought up hybrids before we were supposed to submit it. Quiet, efficient with fuel and are not bikes.
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You need to write your Walmart strategy for your team. :D
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Question for Team Tits. How do you plan on locking the doors at Wal-Mart? You need a key to lock those automatic sliding doors. Where are you going to find that key? Is one of the team members just coincidentally the manager of the store?
Aren't there both manual locks and deadbolt locks for them?

This is where the state of the Walmart and the intelligence/ability of the zombies would affect the scenario (information that wasn't provided). Is the power or generator giving the store emergency power? Is the store locked up like Fort Knox (if it is, then there's probably little to no zombies who've been able to get inside)? Do zombies have the problem solving skills to open sliding doors without handles or tools?

Lets assume the store was just abandoned and there's no power at all. No one bothered to lock up, or make sure an emergency generator was on. That'd mean the doors would be able to be manually pried open with our crowbar. If there are manual switch/kick locks and no key is required to lock them, then our plan goes along perfectly. If there are no manual locks and a key is needed, then we'd have to choose to just close the doors and hope the zombies are so sloppy and stupid to open them, be cautious and find something to wedge into each end (probably something metal from the car's tool kit, like a screwdriver or small wrench) so that even if the zombies could slide them, something jamming it would keep them closed, or a combo of one the former and us making our first act inside to be finding the keys, which'll probably be immediately inside at the greeter's station. If we were desperate, we could also park the car immediately on the inside of the most outer doors and/or pile up carts, creating an additional wall incase they were able to break our wedges.

So yeah, if there are keyless manual locks, we're fine. We can wedge something in each end of the doors. It'll also take 30 seconds for the 3 man team, should they decide to do this after seeing no keyless locks, to walk the 20 feet indoors and secure the keys from the greeter station, and then return to lock them and proceed with the original plan.
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Ok since no one on the team is stepping up I'm cutting jvig off the team randomly chosen. Unless yall come up with a name by the time I post up the scenarios tomorrow then this is final.
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Rather then to leave a man behind to be zombified, we choose to fight and go down as a team. No man left behind!
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Rather then to leave a man behind to be zombified, we choose to fight and go down as a team. No man left behind!
I chose to live the Bill Murray 'zombie' life.
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Our actual plan was to drive through walmart in a snowplow, not even bothering to get out and grab stuff on the top shelves while throwing flaming bags of poop because even zombies get distracted by those. But alas we are all dead.
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That's why we American zombie killing
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so the whole team is gone?
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