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Old 11-06-2011, 08:16 PM    (permalink
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The people that say that JoePa couldn't have done anything after he was cleared in '98.........how about stopping him from having kids sleepover in the facilities after that? JoePa was close with this guy, you know he had to know about this **** just as the dude that lived next to him said. This is waaaaaaay worse than recruiting violations, or minor on campus infractions.
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JoePa should have been fired already. This is ridiculous.
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Joe didn't handle this the right way at all and the least the University could do is force him to retire at the end of this season.
The fact that Sandusky wasn't summarily banned from the Nittany Lions football program without explanation is mind numbing.

His legacy will be forever tarnished, irrevocably IMO.

This is turning into the college football equivalent of the Catholic priest scandal.

Great men are great not only on Saturdays coaching young men. Being someone others aspire to become means doing the right thing even when it's difficult.

I still can't wrap my mind around this.

All the fake outrage over Mike Vick was total ********.
After murder of human beings(!), sexually molesting and assaulting adolescents is the most heinous crime in our society.

Why didn't JoePa's moral compass lead him out of this cesspool?? The least he could do was permanently disassociate from Sandusky.

Paterno may never have formal charges filed against him, but the average football fan will never hold him in the same esteem he previously enjoyed.
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Joe didn't handle this the right way at all and the least the University could do is force him to retire at the end of this season.
The fact that Sandusky wasn't summarily banned from the Nittany Lions football program without explanation is mind numbing.

His legacy will be forever tarnished, irrevocably IMO.

This is turning into the college football equivalent of the Catholic priest scandal.

Great men are great not only on Saturdays coaching young men. Being someone others aspire to become means doing the right thing even when it's difficult.

I still can't wrap my mind around this.

All the fake outrage over Mike Vick was total ********.
After murder of human beings(!), sexually molesting and assaulting adolescents is the most heinous crime in our society.

Why didn't JoePa's moral compass lead him out of this cesspool?? The least he could do was permanently disassociate from Sandusky.

Paterno may never have formal charges filed against him, but the average football fan will never hold him in the same esteem he previously enjoyed.
Not to downplay what Vick did, but this is 10x worse. I couldn't believe the stuff I read, and as I said earlier it's hard to imagine the stuff this man didn't get caught doing. Disgusting. This is more important than football, presumably dozens of kids lives were ruined.
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http://espn.go.com/college-football/...ere-all-fooled

When in doubt cover your ass. That's what leaders are supposed to do, make sure the money keeps rolling in and protect the institution.

He squeezes the guy out in 98, reports him in 02 and is now "shocked" that these charges are coming about even though Sandusky was strolling his victims through the building. I know that generation was ****** when it came to acting on pedophiles, but does he really think all the Penn State boosters are so immoral that they will continue to give money to the program with that weak ass denial?
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Great read by Posnanski on the initial reaction. He has been living in State College for months writing a book on JoePa. That research just became very heavy.
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Damn, WHo were all these 'school counselors' referring these kids to Sandusky's 2nd Mile Program so this freak could shower naked with them, etc.??

If Sandusky isn't the biggest pedophile in the state of Pennsylvania, he's at least a close number 2.

Jeezus H. Christ.

Now I know why JoePa told his top assistant Sandusky he would not be his successor at PSU.
Because you're GD child molester, asshole !!

BTW, I think a lot of people knew what was up with Sandusky, or at least suspected.

He took these multiple victims to bowl games(!!) and pre-game banquets.
No middle aged man 'hangs out' with adolescent boys ALL THE TIME who aren't related to him.smh.

Even one of PSU's janitors reported seeing Sandusky fellating one of his victims in the showers at PSU's football facilities in 2000. No way JoePa didn't hear about that.
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reading those grand jury documents... **** is ****** up
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Totally.

This is probably the biggest scandal that any major college football program has ever been associated with.
What's even worse is the number of assaults that occurred in PSU's athletic facilities.

Sandusky is caught blowing and anally raping 10-12 year olds more than once in the showers at Happy Valley, and the dude has no fear whatsoever of being turned in. Unbelievable.
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Totally.

This is probably the biggest scandal that any major college football program has ever been associated with.
What's even worse is the number of assaults that occurred in PSU's athletic facilities.

Sandusky is caught blowing and anally raping 10-12 year olds more than once in the showers at Happy Valley, and the dude has no fear whatsoever of being turned in. Unbelievable.
Crazy. How do you get that many times in the shower and just keep doing it...
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I can't tell ya my thoughts on JoePa but holy ****.....I feel all sorts of awful for reading the stuff about this man. I can't describe how sickening it is. Just ******* awful. Little kids. I'm seriously at a loss for words.
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Yeah it's mind blowing just how institutionalized this problem was. No way should that stuff repeatedly be happening.

JoePa runs state college. That's why I think he knows a whole bunch more. But I am building a straw man when I fill in those gaps.

I really think there was more than just Sandusky doing this. And that regardless there are a bunch more kids and likely ex players that are victims.
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It's beyond JoePa. The AD and President of PSU knew about the allegations against Sandusky and NEVER reported it to law enforcement.

Parerno really needs to shut up about his being 'surprised' about Sandusky's arrest.

How could anyone who knew anything about Sandusky's irregular behavior be surprised that OMG!! he really was molesting all those young boys he was palling around with at games etc. on Penn State's campus:????
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It's beyond JoePa. The AD and President of PSU knew about the allegations against Sandusky and NEVER reported it to law enforcement.

Parerno really needs to shut up about his being 'surprised' about Sandusky's arrest.

How could anyone who knew anything about Sandusky's irregular behavior be surprised that OMG!! he really was molesting all those young boys he was palling around with at games etc. on Penn State's campus:????
Totally agree that it's beyond Just JoePa but you have to include him.

Just hit the twitter verse that Curley and Schultz have stepped down.
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Just went over it again.

The fact that Sandusky was known to have had inappropriate contact with boys and was still allowed to bring them into University facilities, including coaches meetings, is absolutely mind blowing and really the most damning thing here. I find it hard to believe that complete ignorance about something as serious as that can exist for years when it's happening right in front of so many people.
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Well, Paterno should have been forced into retirement years ago. He is a distraction for their football program and anybody who thinks he is still actually coaching, is mistaken.
This will be the final straw and I'm sure he'll finally retire so the program can get on track again.
30 years ago he was by far, the best HC in college football but it is sad for me to see him stay on way too long and leave an image that will tarnish his reputation even without this scandal.
I don't know if he was complicit in this new issue, I suspect the AD and school president are far more to blame, probably tried to cover up the mess for the good of the school which now leaves an even blacker mark on the university's reputation.
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JoePa did what the university would have wanted. He reported it to his superior.

The events afterwards are sickening though. An accused child molester doesn't need to have "sleep overs" on school facilities.
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Wow, absolutely appalling. The guy was caught in the act multiple times, and it just kept happening?
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There isn't enough whiskey here in Florida to erase those documents from my memory. He was not only abusing children in PSU facilities, but he wasn't even making a tremendous effort to hide it. And PSU waited until 2002 -- after several years of allegations and at least two eye-witness accounts -- to go so far as to tell him to not bring children to PSU facilities.

Reading those documents, it's pretty obvious that this guy was being "protected" by people at PSU. I don't know how any of these people can sleep at night.
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More stuff coming out; apparently Sandusky was allowed to run a Penn State camp for young children as late as 2009. So you have multiple reports of this guy sexually abusing children on your campus....and you let him run a camp for children that appears to be directly connected to the university, something that you control? How on earth is that justifiable?

Again, anyone who had any knowledge about this going on and stood idly bye needs to be held accountable.
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I can deal with schools paying players, dirty boosters, street agents, and occasional academic fraud, we all know it happens at every school but this just crosses every moral line.......
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The more I see/read and the more stuff comes out, the more ashamed I am of being a Penn State grad. From everything I'm seeing, as soon as Joe found out about this stuff, he forced Sandusky into retirement and pretty much cut-off contact with him. Its a shame he didn't go out of his way to shut him out of the rest of Penn State's world and appalling that others in the athletic department and university seemingly enabled Sandusky as opposed to actually bringing something to the proper authorities.

I was sooooo excited for the Nebraska rivalry to be renewed and at this point, I don't even think I want to go to the game anymore.
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... I don't even know what to think when it comes to JoePa, seems like he tried to do the right thing, perhaps he was instructed not to do anything further and let the people he report to "take care of it". I just wish, after nothing had been done, he would have taken things into his own hands. As far as Sandusky... bury the ******, he's a dirty rotten piece of **** that fully deserves every beating he gets in jail for the rest of his sad miserable life. Curley and Schultz... they're barely any better, if at all, those two should rot as long as possible as well. They are both disgusting, and I hope they get torn apart in public and court.
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