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Too bad about Okwo, I was looking forward to seeing if he could contribute this year.
Wait, what happened to him?
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If Grossman sucks this season, I want to see a trade up for Andre' Woodson...
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Updated to reflect injuries (sigh)...I'm sure we'll call up Garay from the PS. Who knows about the other roster spot.
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51 have you seen a link confirming that Dusty's injury is a tear, I haven't been able to find one.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=090...o&confirm=true

By the way, can you unsticky those threads? Some of them haven't been posted in months.
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By the way, can you unsticky those threads? Some of them haven't been posted in months.
Well I'm not here very often, so I haven't got around to it.
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Updated to reflect injuries (sigh)...I'm sure we'll call up Garay from the PS. Who knows about the other roster spot.
We might see Greg Fassit signed off the practice squad, or perhaps there is a safety or DB on some other team's PS that the org. likes.

I don't know about you, but I think the Dusty injury hurts us more then the Brown injury.
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Also, IIRC, Graham and McBride could also play FS as well. So, at least we have a lot of versatility and depth at DB.
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I updated the depth chart, adding current age (according to the Bears website) and how long they are under contract.

That should add another dimension when considering holes we might need to fill.
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it's amazing how many guys we've got signed for another 2 or 3 year who we really need to get rid of...
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Did one excluding all of the 2007 Free Agents, just to give an idea of where our roster would sit.

Quarterbacks- Will keep 2/3
1)Brian Griese
2)Kyle Orton

Runningbacks-Will keep 3/4
1)Cedric Benson
2)Adrian Peterson
3)Garrett Wolfe
4)P.J Pope

Fullbacks-Will keep 1/2
1)Jason McKie
2)Lousaka Polite
3)J.D Runnels
4)Quantrine Hill

ReceiversWill keep 4-6
1)Muhsin Muhammad
2)Devin Hester
3)Mark Bradley
4)Mike Hass

Tight Ends-Will keep 2/3
1)Greg Olsen
2)Desmond Clark
3)Fontel Mines

Offensive TacklesWill keep 3/4
1)John Tait
2)Fred Miller
3)John St. Clair
4)Ryan Gibbons

Interior Offensive LineWill keep 4/5
1)Olin Kruetz
2)Roberto Garza
3)Terrence Metcalf
4)Josh Beekman
5)Tyler Reed
6)Mike Jones

Defensive Ends-Will keep 4/5
1)Adewale Ogunleye
2)Mark Anderson
3)Alex Brown
4)Dan Bazuin
5)Israel Idonije
6)Chris Frome

Defensive Tackle-Will keep 4/5
1)Tommie Harris
2)Dusty Dvoracek
3)Darwin Walker
4)Anthony Adams
5)Jimmy Kennedy
6)Babatunde Oshinowo
7)Matt Toeaina

LinebackersWill keep 6-8
1)Brian Urlacher
2)Hunter Hillenmeyer
3)Jamar Williams
4)Mike Okwo
5)Rod Wilson
6)Nick Roach

Cornerbacks-Will keep 5/6
1)Charles Tillman
2)Nathan Vasher
3)Ricky Manning Jr
4)Trumaine McBride
5)Corey Graham
6)Ade Jimoh
7)Greg Fassitt

Safties-Will keep 4/5
1)Mike Brown
2)Danieal Manning
3)Adam Archuleta
4)Kevin Payne
5)Josh Gattis
6)Leonard Peters
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Updated on first page for free agency.
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I'm really irritated with the DE position.

I still think we shouldn't get rid of alex brown, because he's good against the run and we've had so many damn problems stopping the run. If we're able to have some headway in it. I'd say **** it. Ship him. He had a fantastic year, and would probably get a 3rd rounder this year. Because I don't think anyone in the FO though he'd have a great year like he did this year. But. Bazuin hasn't proven anything. It's a weird tough situation.
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I'm really irritated with the DE position.

I still think we shouldn't get rid of alex brown, because he's good against the run and we've had so many damn problems stopping the run. If we're able to have some headway in it. I'd say **** it. Ship him. He had a fantastic year, and would probably get a 3rd rounder this year. Because I don't think anyone in the FO though he'd have a great year like he did this year. But. Bazuin hasn't proven anything. It's a weird tough situation.
I agree 100% w/u. Many thought that Mark Anderson would emerge as a top tier DE this year and he really fizzled this year. Our run support was the worst and when Alex had his chance to prove his worth he shined. I think that we should keep him as insurance because nobody knows what Bazuin will do. If he flops we may have another position of concern for depth. I think we should give Brown a shot at retaining his starting position next year because he definatelly looked like he deserved it.
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How many times did you guys scream or pull out your hair at Anderson biting on the play fake and totally blowing containment.

Until he upgrades his football IQ he should not be starting over Alex Brown.. I was in favor of him grabbing the spot last year, but it turned out to be a bad decision.. Brown played really good football all year imo.
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I'd still take Anderson any day. Alex Brown is so incredibly average. Just another player that Bears fans fall in love with and think is much better than he actually is (see Mike Brown). I like the guy personally, he seems like a real stand up dude, but when you average 6-7 sacks a season over a 6 year career, starting almost every game, you aren't a starting defensive end, particularly in our defense.

Anderson may not be the answer, but I know for a fact that Alex Brown is not.
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By the way, FYI, the updated page is the 1st page in this thread.
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Anderson might end up being better and might be the better pass rusher but it doesnt matter about the pass when Anderson doesnt contain the cut back and we give up 200 rushing yards a game. I'd prefer Brown to be the starter next year for the same reason I want Orton to start, we just seem to play better with these guys in game.
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Anderson might end up being better and might be the better pass rusher but it doesnt matter about the pass when Anderson doesnt contain the cut back and we give up 200 rushing yards a game. I'd prefer Brown to be the starter next year for the same reason I want Orton to start, we just seem to play better with these guys in game.
hellz yes! i think anderson needs to stick to being a situational pass rusher like he was as a rookie and let someone with more all around skill handle the non-passing downs...
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Anderson might end up being better and might be the better pass rusher but it doesnt matter about the pass when Anderson doesnt contain the cut back and we give up 200 rushing yards a game. I'd prefer Brown to be the starter next year for the same reason I want Orton to start, we just seem to play better with these guys in game.
he has worked very well as a situational pass rusher. We can use him similar to how Green Bay would use Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila. If he proves he can be more than just a situational pass rusher then let him prove it. As for now Brown is more complete.
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Bingo. And it doesn't hurt to have a situational pass rusher. Truth be told, we also played against a lot better left tackles this year. That's another reason for him looking 'average'. But the fact we have 2 situational pass rushers is the part that doesn't make sense.

But it shouldn't matter.

As much as BF51 thinks he's right. If the linebackers can't tackle, having Anderson will be pretty useless in the way they planned to use him at the beginning of the year. He also needs to get stronger, that i can't mention enough either... Anderson is good. He's just not yet. He has no balance, and the inside of our line gets eaten up because of him.

side note. we blitzed more off the edge this year causing anderson to get less 'sacks', and urlacher and briggs piled up some.
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Ha. You guys aren't even disagreeing with me. I never said Anderson was the answer. I said Alex Brown is not. He's had what, 5-6 years to prove himself as a starting DE in the league? He hasn't done that.

In our system, if you are a starting DE you HAVE to get at least 8-10 sacks per year, preferably much more than that. It doesn't matter how you play against the run. I mean, it does, but that is an extreme secondary concern. Defensive ends aren't paid to stop the run. That's a direct quote from Lovie Smith.
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So whatever happened to JD Runnels?
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