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Old 12-22-2013, 01:37 PM    (permalink
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Just saying y'all. They didn't even play Tebow really. Jets screwed him over.
Not one team in the entire league wants Tebow. He screwed himself over by refusing to be a team player. Enough of this horseshit you post every ******* day about Tebow. He's completely unwanted by the entire NFL and he did it to himself. No one owes him a chance at anything.
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Just saying y'all. They didn't even play Tebow really. Jets screwed him over.
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I'm pretty sure Rex Ryan won't have to go back to being a DC if he gets fired. He'd be a blessing for any team that already has some potential on offense like the Skins or Lions.
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I'm pretty sure Rex Ryan won't have to go back to being a DC if he gets fired. He'd be a blessing for any team that already has some potential on offense like the Skins or Lions.
I'd kill for Rex Ryan.
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I'd kill for Rex Ryan.
Co-sign.

Our pieces with his defensive mind sounds good. Lovie sounds good too. I wouldn't mind Tomlin either, especially since he's a 4-3 guy.
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Co-sign.

Our pieces with his defensive mind sounds good. Lovie sounds good too. I wouldn't mind Tomlin either, especially since he's a 4-3 guy.
i don't think tomlin will be available, though.
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Give me O'Brien, Zimmer, Gruden, or Rex.
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All your NFL teams need to stay away from O'Brien, damnit.
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All your NFL teams need to stay away from O'Brien, damnit.
Why they just made his buyout cheaper perfect time for him to bounce now.
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Why they just made his buyout cheaper perfect time for him to bounce now.
False, they did that last offseason, mostly to ensure he wouldn't leave for another college team, and he didn't leave then. Its unlikely Penn State will lower it again, especially since the sanctions are getting weakened, which means O'Brien loses the bargaining power he had that got them lowered last season. O'Brien wants to return to the NFL someday, but he also really wants to finish what he started and not abandon his players. I think he'll go to the NFL with Hack.
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False, they did that last offseason, mostly to ensure he wouldn't leave for another college team, and he didn't leave then. Its unlikely Penn State will lower it again, especially since the sanctions are getting weakened, which means O'Brien loses the bargaining power he had that got them lowered last season. O'Brien wants to return to the NFL someday, but he also really wants to finish what he started and not abandon his players. I think he'll go to the NFL with Hack.
Ok, but he wants it reduced again here is the article.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/...-lions-reduced
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Of course he wants it reduced. Its not likely it'll get it reduced though. That was my point, last season, he had grounds to ask for a reduction, this year, he doesn't.

Besides, every year he stays, it gets lowered naturally. If he stays another year, its something like $3 million buyout. He stays 2 more years, its ~$1.5 million. Penn State gains absolutely nothing for lowering it.
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I think Kubiak (already fired), Ryan, Munchak, Allen, Schwartz, Schiano, Garrett, and Shannahan are all gone. Thats 8 HC's- would be a lot of turnover if that was all to happen.

EDIT- Forgot about Frazier too.

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False, they did that last offseason, mostly to ensure he wouldn't leave for another college team, and he didn't leave then. Its unlikely Penn State will lower it again, especially since the sanctions are getting weakened, which means O'Brien loses the bargaining power he had that got them lowered last season. O'Brien wants to return to the NFL someday, but he also really wants to finish what he started and not abandon his players. I think he'll go to the NFL with Hack.
2016 Obrien and Hackenberg to the team with the #1 pick.
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I think Kubiak (already fired), Ryan, Munchak, Allen, Schwartz, Schiano, Garrett, and Shannahan are all gone. Thats 8 HC's- would be a lot of turnover if that was all to happen.
Munchak would be fired everywhere else, but with the Titans it's hard to say. After all they kept Jeff Fischer for a million years even though he had a winning record in only 35% of his seasons, and none in his first 5 seasons. Garrett might still make the playoffs and Jerry Jones has an incomprehensible love affair with that guy.

The only locks to be fired are Shanahan and Schwartz imo.

Ryan still had his team overachieve. Allen and Schiano have been there only two years.
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Kubiak is already gone, hopefully, Schwartz is to follow, Ryan said he was done, and Jones said Garrett will go if he loses to the Eagles. I believe Shanahan is also done. Munchak, Allen and Schiano could all survive at least one more season with Schiano a real possibility to go. As someone mentioned, Tennessee doesn't change HC's too quickly and Allen had zero talent to work with and took over a gutted team.

Also under threat are Frazier in Minny and Coughlin in NY.

You have to wonder if there will be a sizable raid on successful college HC's after Kelly's success. After all, the NFL is a copycat league. O'Brian will likely head up that list.
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Coughlin is not under "threat". He's 100% returning.
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At this point I wouldn't be surprised if the entire coaching staff is returning. Coughlin definitely isn't going anywhere.

We'll finish this season 7-9 which in itself is a bit of miracle considering how awful we were this year.
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The Jets are making a terrible mistake if they fire Rex Ryan. Rex Ryan is a damn good coach. He just needs a qb.

If he's fired, teams like Detroit and Houston should be all over that. Especially Houston. JJ Watt and Rex Ryan would be scary together.
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If he's fired, teams like Detroit and Houston should be all over that. Especially Houston. JJ Watt and Rex Ryan would be scary together.
I want him or Horton if he's gone.
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could you imagine if Rex goes to HOuston then takes Clowney. I know Clowney isn't best suited for a 34 but Rex would figure something out
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I want him or Horton if he's gone.
It wouldn't be a terrible idea to get an offensive minded HC to help clean up Stafford and get Wade to be DC either.

Part of me thinks that might be the better combo bc Stafford needs an offensive minded leader to clean him up a little. Especially his mechanics.
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could you imagine if Rex goes to HOuston then takes Clowney. I know Clowney isn't best suited for a 34 but Rex would figure something out
I honestly would love to see this happen. Rex needs a qb though. If you give Rex a qb, he can be a great coach.
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