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Old 12-29-2013, 02:51 PM    (permalink
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I also listed the wrong team for Wade Phillips. Clearly, those two typos invalidate the entire list.
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What is the odds that Redskins will fire Mike Shanahan (imminent) and promote Kyle Shanahan to head coach?

Since Kyle wants to separate from his father for his own recognition, I kind of dig it.

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Have Winston Moss and Darren Perry lost their luster as coaching prospects? Or are they still top prospects?
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Chud is a goner.
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Hackenberg vs Morris!
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Per Morts twitter...

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Rob Chudzinski will be fired by the #Browns, per league sources.
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Have Winston Moss and Darren Perry lost their luster as coaching prospects? Or are they still top prospects?
I had been waiting for Moss to get head coach gig. I gave up now. I think he could be ended up Browns' head coach replacing Pat Shurmar if Holmgren was not fired.

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The Browns are so damn stupid.
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Chudzinski gets one season with a revolving door at QB and that's it?

Browns gonna Browns.
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This is ******* unbelievable. Microcosmic of why this is the worst organization in all of professional sports.

Jason Campbell
Weeden
Hoyer

Belichick wouldn't have even put together a winning season with that.

Who the **** are they going to hire? 99 percent chance it won't be an actual upgrade. Also, who the **** would even want the job?
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This is ******* unbelievable. Microcosmic of why this is the worst organization in all of professional sports.

Jason Campbell
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Belichick wouldn't have even put together a winning season with that.

Who the **** are they going to hire? 99 percent chance it won't be an actual upgrade. Also, who the **** would even want the job?
Which is why Belichick was fired from the Browns and then went on to greatness in New England. Different franchise, same name, I know. But still.
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It's been a rough month for me.
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If you compare every coach to Belichick, any firing is going to look stupid. What has Chud actually done to make people think he's a good coach? People are overreacting. Their defense is good and Hoyer/Campbell >>>>> Weeden. Turner is a good OC and Horton is a good DC. And yet they didn't improve at all this season. Is it not possible that he just isn't a very good coach?
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So Rapoport says that Cleveland got worse under his coaching, which could be a motivating factor as to why Chud got axed.

I don't follow the browns that closely to confirm/deny.
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Well obviously they wouldn't fire him if they thought he was doing a good job. The point is that THEY hired him less than a year ago, so if it was that bad of a hire, what gives them any confidence they'll do a better job the second time?
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There are tweets stating Haslam is strongly displeased with the teams effort and losing like 10 in a row. I still don't understand what people expected with Jason ******* Campbell and and Weeden as his options.
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They won one less game. Sure, Chud didn't light the league on fire this year. Personally, I don't think he was that great of a candidate to begin with. But when you consider the quarterback situation they had, and the fact that they were competitive in a number of those losses, I just don't see how you fire him after a single season.

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It's certainly possible. I think the point that most people are arguing, myself included, is that it is simply too early to make that conclusion.
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The Vikings are firing Frazier. No big named guys are reporting it but a guy I know who broke the Freeman-to-Vikings news 12 hours before anyone else is reporting it.
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I mean......of course they are firing Frazier.
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Well obviously they wouldn't fire him if they thought he was doing a good job. The point is that THEY hired him less than a year ago, so if it was that bad of a hire, what gives them any confidence they'll do a better job the second time?
Well yeah, they get a thumbs down for hiring him in the first place. That's the problem with hiring first time head coaches.

Maybe they're hiring someone they know. Maybe Horton. I don't know. Which is why i'm going to wait until they hire someone.
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It's true that the Browns didn't have enough offensive talent to realistically become a winning team this year, but maybe Cleveland's front office just didn't like their working relationship with Chudzinski, or the way he dealt with the players. In that case, why waste another year continuing down that path? It's not like the Browns were any more dangerous than usual this year. In what way did Chudzinski seem to dramatically improve the team? Cleveland is still a punching bag. I can understand giving him another chance given the lack of a starting quarterback, etc., but I don't get why people would be outraged that the coach of a 4-12 team would be fired.
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Frazier should have never gotten the job in the first place. This is years overdue.
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Im not outraged i just find it really weird
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I just hope they don't take our McD. We need him, and I'm tired of switching OC's. Maybe Charlie will step down from KU a year early and hand it over to Powlus?
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