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Old 03-27-2007, 12:42 PM    (permalink
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Did his brother ever catch on with an NFL team?
I wouldn't know.
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I wouldn't know.
The both played at Souther Miss together. I know Michael was a LB/S tweener. I think his brother basically was too.
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I think Nelson's ballhawk skills would compliment Arch a little better. But as far as rush D goes, you want Landry back there. Plus, Landry can play both Safety positions in case Arch busts/gets injured.

Hmmm....

I don't know, 6 is awfully high for a safety. I love safeties but 6?

Who knows, this could even be a bluff by the Redskins. By throwing this rumored trade out, maybe theyre trying to see if anyone else will hastily offer them something more for the 6th pick. They could be using Chicago.
It seems like I'm the only guy left these days who doesn't have a complete hard on for safeties. I've never seen the infatuation with them, especially as top ten draft choices. I still look at them as guys who are too small to play linebacker and don't have the hips or athleticism to play corner. It's the least important position on defense. To me, anyways.
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Safeties went 7-8 last year, and I like Landry better than either of them. I also love safeties, and I think it'd be a good and very possible pick.
Landry can't hold a candle to Whitner and Huff. I think Landry might be a bust, and the fact that he was slow in the shuttle with a bad showing of hip flexibility (relative to a top 10 pick anyway) is a sign. Whitner and Huff were awesome prospects - great against the pass and the run and very physical to boot, and both can probably start at CB and be probowlers there.
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I'd like to say that I broke this story on the Bears Team Discussion late last night, a thank ya! :D

Anywho, now that I can actually read without any dillusional images in my head (I've gotten 2 hours of sleep the past two nights) I'll comment on this.

I thought I was seeing something when they reported this last night on Sports Nite here in Chicago. And I was quite shocked that they said Daniel Snyder had confirmed the offer.

If this trade goes through I think I'd crap my pants. Everyone on here, including myself on paper would've said "hell no" to giving up the #16 pick in the draft for Lance Briggs. If we can pull this off, I'd be extremely happy. And now on to who we'd be targeting: (in no particular order)

1) Brady Quinn - I really think Rexy is in JA's dog house. And I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him nab the best QB in this draft. Brady is a Carson Palmer type QB prospect IMO.

2) Laron Landry - The best safety prospect in this draft without a doubt IMO. Incredible skill set, great range, hard hitter, and a playmaker. I could see JA taking this guy if he feels Mike Brown's days are numbered.

3) Levi Brown - While some may call him a reach here, he's certainly a very good OT prospect. A monster of a man who is very good in pass protection and from what I've seen, can run block well as well. Certainly a need area for us this draft with two aging vets in Tait and Miller.

4) Patrick Willis - I don't see this happening but it could. Would be a reach here but IMO he's the best LB prospect in the draft. Great range and would fit in well in the Cover 2 scheme. Impact type LB at the next level.

5) Trade up for CJ. 51 mentioned this already but if we did this, I'd personally send JA a box of chocolates. CJ is one of the best WR prospects to come out in a loooonnggg time and he'd instantly make our offense better. I'm salivating right now even thinking about him in Chicago.
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Sweetness if Quinn is gone, could you see the Bears taking Okoye? I can see them doing that for some reason.
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WOW. I thought it was just briggs for the 6th pick, then I saw the 31st pick too. Still a bad trade for the Skins. It really doesn't matter though, because the Bears lost the super-bowl, so they are gonna suck anyway.
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Old 03-27-2007, 01:28 PM    (permalink
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WOW. I thought it was just briggs for the 6th pick, then I saw the 31st pick too. Still a bad trade for the Skins. It really doesn't matter though, because the Bears lost the super-bowl, so they are gonna suck anyway.
Says the man with 5 negative rep squares. :D

I'd prefer Branch over Okoye personally. I know Amobi has a ton of upside, but he's got a really low floor, and JA likes guys with high floors. I don't think we got DL there though if we make the trade. I think it'll be WR, S, QB, OLB, or OT.

Or we could trade down and pick up a 2nd or 3rd rounder in the draft. Lots of options there.
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A front four of Ogunleye-Harris-Branch-Brown/Anderson would be nasty.
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It seems like I'm the only guy left these days who doesn't have a complete hard on for safeties. I've never seen the infatuation with them, especially as top ten draft choices. I still look at them as guys who are too small to play linebacker and don't have the hips or athleticism to play corner. It's the least important position on defense. To me, anyways.
I think in today's league of parity, and the more pass happy nature of the league in general, its very important to have a presence at the safety position on defense.

At the end of the day, if you can stop the run and defend the deepball, you can essentially have a good defense in today's NFL. The safety defends the deepball. You can make a strong case for safeties being more important to defenses nowadays than CBs.

Ive said this in the Giants thread before, I want you to consider this:


New England
Pittsburgh
Indianapolis
Baltimore
Tampa Bay


The past 7 NFL champions. What do they all have in common? They all had a presence at the safety position. The same can't be said of the CB position however.

The game has changed, and so has the responsibilities of the safety. Now more than ever, its imperative to have a quality presence at the safety position to be a championship caliber team. You need that guy who can be a run stopping presence at the 3rd level, a guy who can cover the TE up the seam, and defend the deep zone.

Having said that, I think a top 6 pick on a safety is still a little too high. Unless he's the next Ronnie Lott, I don't think its worth it.
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Calvin Johnson doesn't need to learn a style of play from a possession receiver who could never touch his skill set in his prime. Moose can teach Johnson nuances of blocking and route running, but CJ is advanced and ready to produce right now. It's all about technique now. His style of play is completely different from Moose's.
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I don't care about that stupid rep bars, are you serious? Oh and when the Bears have a losing record, you heard it hear first.
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I don't want to go threw all the pages is this trade just talk or really going down?
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I don't want to go threw all the pages is this trade just talk or really going down?
All talk but read Jay Glazer's article on foxsports. It will shed some light on why this is such a hot topic because parts of this rumor has been confirmed by Dan Synder.
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THe bears should make it go down. No single player is worth 25 picks in the first round, and they are gettinmg and off like that right now. They should jump on it likes it Jessica Alba.
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I don't care about that stupid rep bars, are you serious? Oh and when the Bears have a losing record, you heard it hear first.
with the schedule the bears have next year, they should only lose about 6 games at the most...and last time i checked, 10-6 gets you homefield throughout the playoffs in the NFC lol
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Boley eh? I gotta do more hw on the guy, I don't know much about him.
He's on the Falcons defense.

Therefore he sucks.

And Mike Vick sucks too.

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I think the price tag is a little too much. Basically the value of the 16th overall pick. On top of that the Redskins might have to throw in a late round pick on top of MEGA contract they will have to sign him too. And this contract won't be like the ones they signed Arch and Randle El to that they can get out of anytime. This will have 20 million guaranteed.

I don't see why the Skins are so interested in Briggs. I thought they were high on McIntosh, one of the few draft picks they've kept recently. And they have Washington on the other side. Unless someone is switching to the middle.
Matt Schaub was traded for the value of the 20th pick in the draft.

You can't see the Redskins valuing Briggs higher than Schaub was valued?
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Matt Schaub was traded for the value of the 20th pick in the draft.

You can't see the Redskins valuing Briggs higher than Schaub was valued?
Schuab is a QB though. Will Briggs have as much impact on the Redskins season if he is traded their as Schaub will on the Texans season? On top of that Briggs is asking for WAY more money than Schaub is getting. I can't see Briggs being worth what you lose in the trade and what you have to pay him.

I like the Schaub deal a lot more.
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seriously? not one player?

so say you were idk minnesota, cleveland, tampa bay...you wouldn't trade your top 10 pick for say peyton manning?

or if you were cleveland, detroit, minnesota, oakland...you wouldn't trade your pick for LT?

good thing your not in charge of any football team...
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I guarantee this trade or these terms to be more precise will not go down.
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seriously? not one player?

so say you were idk minnesota, cleveland, tampa bay...you wouldn't trade your top 10 pick for say peyton manning?

or if you were cleveland, detroit, minnesota, oakland...you wouldn't trade your pick for LT?

good thing your not in charge of any football team...
Not for Lance Briggs, but I'd do it for a guy like LT or Peyton Manning.

Also, nice sig quote dude. I thought it was pretty classless when you guys did that in Iowa City this year. And this after Alford bitched about how fans needed to show more class, and then your fan base does that.
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I don't care about that stupid rep bars, are you serious? Oh and when the Bears have a losing record, you heard it hear first.
Great analysis assclown. Actually I heard it first like 5 years ago when someone so cleverly realized that teams that made the Superbowl hadn't made the playoffs the next year in a while.
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