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Old 01-15-2012, 04:02 PM    (permalink
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And he was thoroughly mediocre for most of those games.
He's played well enough to help his team win NFL games. The 49ers drafted him to help them win games, not to please every Joe on a message board with an opinion.
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Old 01-15-2012, 04:04 PM    (permalink
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The 9ers did an excellent job hiding and minimizing Smith throughout the season, and he had a great 4th quarter against the Saints, but to credit him for the team's success is a big stretch. Alex Smith is closer to a Matt Cassel than a legitimate franchise QB. Using the "he just wins games" argument in his favor is especially silly considering how poor the 9ers have been with him at QB throughout the years.
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Old 01-15-2012, 04:08 PM    (permalink
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Yep, the 9ers hid him by having him throw 42 passes yesterday...

You don't win in the NFL by "hiding" your QB. That's fan talk, not reality.
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Alex Smith threw less passes than any QB that started 16 games this season. The 49ers game planned to minimize his impact on the game and let their defense and rushing attack win games. One good quarter against a bad defense doesn't change what Alex Smith is and neither does all your condescension and nonsense about fan talk.
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Old 01-15-2012, 04:18 PM    (permalink
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Alex Smith threw less passes than any QB that started 16 games this season. The 49ers game planned to minimize his impact on the game and let their defense and rushing attack win games. One good quarter against a bad defense doesn't change what Alex Smith is and neither does all your condescension and nonsense about fan talk.
The Niners didn't need him to win every game.
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Old 01-15-2012, 04:19 PM    (permalink
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Alex Smith threw less passes than any QB that started 16 games this season. The 49ers game planned to minimize his impact on the game and let their defense and rushing attack win games. One good quarter against a bad defense doesn't change what Alex Smith is and neither does all your condescension and nonsense about fan talk.
Yes, but it's Alex's first season in this new system. Doesn't mean he hasn't or won't further progress as time goes by. When the game has been on the line this season or when the 49ers have needed to come back he's come through. He has the most game winning drives of every quarterback this season.

And guys like Steve McNair and Troy Aikman worked in similar offenses were the running game was the main factor via Eddie George and Emmitt Smith. Alex doesn't have the fantasy football numbers, but he can be a decent quarterback in this league.
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Old 01-15-2012, 04:22 PM    (permalink
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Alex doesn't have the fantasy football numbers, but he can be a decent quarterback in this league.
I agree that I think he can be a decent starter. I never said he was garbage, Halsey came after me for saying he wasn't a franchise QB, which is hardly a bold claim.

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Old 01-15-2012, 04:29 PM    (permalink
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At least the 9ers beat us, and we didn't walk out on the field, **** our pants and foam at the mouth because of grass. I was really worried if Brees would be able to break a huddle on a grass field.
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I said he's turned out to be a good use #1 overall pick in the 2005 Draft. He's started many games and provided the 9ers with quality at QB. He's not as terrible a passer as many fans make him out to be and his mobility is underrated.
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I agree that I think he can be a decent starter. I never said he was garbage, Halsey came after me for saying he wasn't a franchise QB, which is hardly a bold claim.
But you also went out of your way to try and dis credit him. Like those two long TD drives in the 4th qt weren't a thing of beauty. He made a ton of amazing throws there. If you had said he would need to do that before the game you would have easily said SF fail. Those throws to VD were lasors, right on the money, just because he's been average in his career up to this point doesn't change that.


The last drive they started at the 15, with I think 1 timeout. He was asked to win the game, on a very huge stage, and he stepped up in a big way to do it. Point blank. I don't think what he did deserves to be dis-credited by saying it was against a bad defense, or by bringing up what he's done in his career up to this point.


Before both of those TD drives I said it was over for SF, no way he'll lead a drive down for a TD vs a Gregg Williams defense. He was throwing strikes to VD with very little room to get the ball in, in clutch situations, not much to be said other then giving him his props instead of trying to find ways to make it less meaningful.
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Brent's last post is spot on. The 49ers didn't hide Smith this season, at least not intentionally, they just didn't need him all that often. Whenever they did, in the games they trailed, he came back to win the game.
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