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Old 03-13-2012, 10:10 PM    (permalink
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Surpised that Reggie stayed on for the Luck era. Still expect Indy to draft a WR or at least sign a vet in FA. It was rumored that Cory Redding from Baltimore was in Indy today. Might be a decent enough signing to help in the transition on D.

I view Garcon as a #2 receiver and no more for us. Should he become more consistent he should become a good target for RG III in DC.
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It is great to have Wayne back, and at such a reasonable price. That is awesome. Luck will be so much better off having an experienced guy with great hands and routes like him.

As for Garcon, screw him. Go play for a bunch of money with a bunch of losers, good luck with that.
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Thank god. After seeing the opinions of other team's fans of Reggie Wayne, the Colts were his best fit. He'll be loved and depended upon here. Plus, there are now three worthwhile jerseys to have: Luck, Wayne, and Mathis.
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Had the Colts not resigned Wayne and let him go in free agency, Manning's successor would have come into Indy with just Austin Collie, Quan Cosby, Jarred Fayson, Jeremy Ross and Blair White as the only receivers on the roster. So I have to say this is a great re-sigining. Not to mention alot more cap friendly compared to Garcon's deal that he inked in Washington.
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Yeah, this is a good deal. Hopefully, Reggie helps Luck develop into a star.

This makes a WR a lesser need. We should still try to get a talented young player, but now it doesnt have to be early.
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Yeah, this is a good deal. Hopefully, Reggie helps Luck develop into a star.

This makes a WR a lesser need. We should still try to get a talented young player, but now it doesnt have to be early.
I think we need to find some speed somewhere. Someone to play the Garcon role even if he doesn't get a ton of balls thrown his way, need to make sure the safeties stay back at least some of the time.
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Colts swap 6th round picks with the Eagles for Winton Justice. At worst he provides depth on the O-Line and at best moves into the starter role at RT and pushes Ijalana moves inside to Guard. Low risk high reward type of move on Grigson's part.

http://www.indystar.com/article/2012...ce-from-Eagles

We also signed DE Cory Redding to a 3 year deal. It's a short term building block that will help in the transition.

http://www.indystar.com/article/2012...5-million-deal
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Love the Redding signing.

Justice? I don't know. But that's not a lot to give up for him. And I'm assuming Grigson knows him pretty well.
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A starting OL of Castonzo/Reitz/???/Ijalana/Justice isn't too shabby at all. I just wonder who our center is going to be. My guess is AQ Shippley gets a shot. I liked him as a prospect but he hasn't done anything, that's for sure.

Kirkpatrick looked good in preseason, maybe he'll do something.

Just no Jeff Faine.
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Wait, when did my boy Shipley sign with Indy?

Heck yeah, he has a shot.
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Wait, when did my boy Shipley sign with Indy?

Heck yeah, he has a shot.
Grigs signed him to a future contract a month or so ago.
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Colts agree to terms with SS Tom Zbikowski.

http://www.kffl.com/gnews.php?id=775...grees-to-terms

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Meh. I'm not excited but as long as it isn't a big contract it probably helps special teams and if they can't find a better starter he is an ok stopgap.
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Agent Ralph Cindrich claims there is no agreement between Zbikowski and the Colts.
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Looks official to me. The team has a story on the signing.

http://www.colts.com/news/article-1/...1-3d08977c756c
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Looks official to me. The team has a story on the signing.

http://www.colts.com/news/article-1/...1-3d08977c756c
Coach Pags even talked about it. Not sure what game his agent is playing.
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I just can't freaking stand the Colts fans around the world right now. They don't understand that cutting players is best for the team. It pisses me off. Like for instance...

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It's not like the players cut were all world in the last two seasons. Most were hurt or under performing to a degree. Most would not fit in with the new schemes regardless. Sure they were part of the core that led us to two super bowls, but those days are long since past. Accept that we're starting over from the remnants of a 2-14 team and going from there. Any other actions would not make any sense right now. The team at best will be picking in the top 10 next year but we should have room in the cap to sign a few decent FA and continue to draft players for the 3-4.

By year three or so we should be at or around 8-8 or better. Not like the Titans or Jags are improving by leaps and bounds in the division.
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If you ever want sobering reading and evidence the team aren't going to be great next year:

Here are my list of the teams needs.

Short term Needs

Starting Quarterback
Depth Quarterback
Depth Running Back
Starting Wide Receiver
Starting Tight End
Depth Tight End
Starting Right Tackle
Starting Left Guard
Starting Center
Starting Nose Tackle
Starting Defensive End
Starting Defensive End
Depth Outside Linebacker
Starting Inside Linebacker
Depth Inside Linebacker
Starting Cornerback
Depth Cornerback
Starting Strong Safety

Medium term Needs – This will obviously change depending on other soon to be Free Agents in the next few years, such as Powers, Collie etc. or if the team cut or trade Freeney

Starting Outside Linebacker (to replace Dwight Freeney)
Starting Place Kicker (to replace Adam Vinateiri)
Starting Long Snapper (to replace Justin Snow)

Long term Needs – Veteran players on long term deals who will need to be replaced by the end of their deals

Starting Wide Receiver (to replace Reggie Wayne)
Starting Outside Linebacker (to repalce Robert Mathis)
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I'm hopeful that Hughes can fulfill the 3-4 OLB role. He has to be good at something right?

Do you have Ijalana at RG?
Also, Cory Redding should take one of the starting DE spots. No idea what are DTs can do at DE, so I think they'll give them a try and see what fits.
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I'm hopeful that Hughes can fulfill the 3-4 OLB role. He has to be good at something right?

Do you have Ijalana at RG?
Also, Cory Redding should take one of the starting DE spots. No idea what are DTs can do at DE, so I think they'll give them a try and see what fits.
I am hopeful that Hughes can provide the depth at Outside Linebacker and possible mold into a starter but until he does it I'm going to assume he won't. The same has to be said for Fili Moala, who is more suited for the 3-4 than the 4-3.

I do have Ijalana at Guard.

Cory Redding will be a decent stopgap at Defensive End and will be a good rotation player but he isn't going to be anything special. He will do for now but the team could upgrade the position.
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Some thoughts:


Short term Needs

Starting Quarterback - Andrew Luck
Depth Quarterback - veteran
Depth Running Back - Nah, we have Brown, Carter, and Evans
Starting Wide Receiver - Hoping for Hill or Streeter in the draft
Starting Tight End - No idea on this one
Depth Tight End - Eldridge and a nobody will be fine
Starting Right Tackle - Winston Justice will be fine
Starting Left Guard - Agreed
Starting Center - Agreed

Starting Nose Tackle - Very much agreed, why are we not talking to Aubrayo Franklin, Antonio Garay, or even Shaun Rogers?

Starting Defensive End - We just got Cory Redding
Starting Defensive End - Nevis or Moala will start, I feel good about DE
Depth Outside Linebacker - If we re-sign Philip Wheeler he and Jerry Hughes will be fine for depth, maybe one more guy for special teams.
Starting Inside Linebacker - Not sure Conner can play this, maybe Audie Cole in the draft?
Depth Inside Linebacker - for sure.

Starting Cornerback - I'm hoping Janoris Jenkins falls to us in round 2
Depth Cornerback - Yeah. Really I think Powers should be the nickel corner, he's good but fragile. Can't count on him as a starter.
Starting Strong Safety - Harrison Smith in the 3rd, maybe?

Medium term Needs – This will obviously change depending on other Free Agents in the next few years, such as Powers, Collie etc.

Starting Outside Linebacker (to replace Dwight Freeney) - Next year's draft? Or maybe Jerry Hughes suddenly develops?
Starting Place Kicker (to replace Adam Vinateiri) - I think he should be cut this year personally.
Starting Long Snapper (to replace Justin Snow)

Long term Needs – Veteran players on long term deals who will need to be replaced by the end of their deals

Starting Wide Receiver (to replace Reggie Wayne)
Starting Outside Linebacker (to repalce Robert Mathis) - I hope the system is put into place solidly enough that this can be a home-grown player so we don't have to sink tons of money into both positions.
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I think Brown, Carter and Evans will provide a decent rotaiton. I would like to see the team sign a 3rd down style back to take some of the snaps that Addai would have taken. The other thing that makes me question this unit is that Pagano wants to go very much so to a between the tackles running style which will suit Carter (if he can hold onto the ball) but maybe not Brown or Evans as much.

Justice is decent but nothing special and we got away with that type of play for the last while but if we want Luck to not be punch drunk then we could do with an upgrade over him. I would be happy with Justice as depth but not as the starter, at least in the long term.

In terms of the Defensive Ends my problem is that we have two or three guys to rotate at End (Moala, Redding and Matthews). None of them are particularly great. I liked the Redding signing because he will be good in a rotation and knows the system but I'm not going to pretend that he's going to be a dominant 5/6 Tech and until Moala shows that he can be I'm not going to assume that he'll be a dominant 5 Tech.

I don't know what they are doing with the Nose Tackle position. The only thing I can think of is that a) they already are talking to those guys and others (Brandon McKinney played for Pagano last year) or b) they are confident of finding someone in the draft.

I like Wheeler in the Jared Johnson role and so I'm surprised the team haven't resigned him yet but yeah the depth will not be difficult to come by.

I don't like Conner as the Ted Linebacker. The Ted needs to be a physically dominant. He basically needs to act almost as a lead-blocker, in an almost defensive fullback role. His job is to clear the way and allow the Mike a free shot at the running back. So we a big thumper in there and I just don't think that Conner would fit. I think he'd be good as a backup Mike, but not as a Ted.

I would say about Powers though that may be a symptom of the Tampa 2. The Tampa 2 needs big, physical corners to both jam the opponents on the line and also make plays in the running game. He won't be asked to do that in the 3-4, or at least not as often, which may preserve his health.
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Evans is a pretty big, thick back similar to Carter. I think we are set at RB. A 3rd down back wouldn't hurt but I don't see it as a need.

I think Justice as a RT for a right-handed pocket passing QB will be a lot more effective. It is hard to block for Mike Vick. Yes Luck is athletic and can scramble or run but he is not at all the same type of QB or athlete that Vick is.

While there are no guarantees about any of the DEs on the roster, I don't think we can just assume they will all suck. They are on the roster and the coaches will have to give them a shot. I am hoping that with new coaches some of these underachievers show some growth and development that the previous morons didn't know what to do with.

We haven't had a LB like the Ted you talk about in so long I wouldn't even know where to begin. That sounds like a Jeremiah Trotter-type LB. Not a high-paid player but definitely a specific size and mindset.

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Colts have signed C Samson Satele, 6-3, 300 pounds. Was drafted by the Dolphins, 2nd round in '07. Was with the Raiders for 3 seasons. Started 74 games in 5 years, which means he only missed 6 games.

Never heard of him, so I'm assuming it's not an expensive contract. Bring in as many inexpensive contracts as we can, and put the best 5 on the field.
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