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Old 01-10-2012, 08:08 PM    (permalink
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Default Demaryius Thomas vs. Julio Jones

Just looking for opinions on both of these guys...

I remember seeing scouting reports, maybe not from here, saying that Thomas is similar to Calvin Johnson...now I'm seeing people say Jones has talent that could be almost as good as Calvin Johnson. I think they're somewhat similar in several aspects of their play so I would just like to get a comparison on them.

Just wondering what you guys think about both players and how their current situations with their team, quarterback, etc. will affect their future production and progress?
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I was thinking about this a bit myself. I'll take Jones and feel pretty good about it, but I think both have a chance to develop into real nice players with similar playing styles. I really loved both of them coming out.

This is assuming Thomas stays healthy too. It's great to see him doing as well as he has been, but you certainly can't feel good about how many tough blows he's been dealt health wise so far.
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I think people need to stop throwing Calvin Johnson comparisons around. Guy is Randy Moss circa 2003 in my mind. He makes his QB's job so much easier. Best WR in the NFL, no question in my mind.

To answer the question, I think Julio Jones is better than Bebe. He was my number 1 overall prospect in the past draft, and he didn't let me down.
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I like Demaryius Thomas but Jones is a clear better player. I wonder how Thomas is athletically compared to where he was pre achilles injury.
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Julio Jones is an unbelievable talent and it won't be long before he's a top 5 WR in the league.

While DeMaryius is gifted, he lacks that "it" that the special ones have. I don't expect him to come down with the tough grab or throw the sick stiff arm out of nowhere to break one off. Not saying he's never done either, but I just don't expect it of him. I do of Julio.
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People fail to remember Demaryius coming out of college... guy was a FREAK

6'3, 235, and ran a 4.3 (Supposedly, Thomas once ran not a 4.18. But a 4.38-second 40 is recorded for him, which is nevertheless flying for a guy his size)


FEW guys have that kind of size and speed
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Demaryius is a very very talented receiver, but he struggles to stay on the field. It was crazy last year, he'd put up a big game here and there and in between be sitting on the sidelines in street clothes.
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People fail to remember Demaryius coming out of college... guy was a FREAK

6'3, 235, and ran a 4.3 (Supposedly, Thomas once ran not a 4.18. But a 4.38-second 40 is recorded for him, which is nevertheless flying for a guy his size)


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Julio is 6'4, 220, ran a 4.38 on a bum foot. Had surgery on it the following week.
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I think Jones is a little better athletically but I like the fact that Thomas is a bit bigger and is just tough to go down. Couple games this year where he consistently got the ball showed him carrying defenders with him, it was remarkable. As for hands I think its a wash, both drop some really easy passes and both make some great catches look easy.
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Julio Jones is an unbelievable talent and it won't be long before he's a top 5 WR in the league.

While DeMaryius is gifted, he lacks that "it" that the special ones have. I don't expect him to come down with the tough grab or throw the sick stiff arm out of nowhere to break one off. Not saying he's never done either, but I just don't expect it of him. I do of Julio.

He just did that, this WEEK, to win an overtime playoff game.


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Nit picky, but he's more like 6'2.5.


I still like Julio better.
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CJ and Randy Moss ran a good 10th faster than both JJ and DT, in spite of being heavier. Both are nice athletes, but are not all world good like CJ and Moss were.
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Number 1 receivers draw double and triple coverage. Randy Moss and Calvin Johnson dismantle double and triple coverage.
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I love Demaryius Thomas but he isn't as complete as a WR as Julio is and you could get away with saying 'yet'.
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I will say that it's nice to see DT making progress after the injury. I remember a number of people thinking he would never come back from it
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Nitpicking here, but in what world was Moss heavier than either Thomas or Jones? They were both heavier than Moss ever was when they were still in college. The only guy in the NFL who compares favorably to Moss is AJ Green. There is no one else, and Green definitely isn't even close to athletic as Moss was when he was young and putting any effort into his game.

Julio Jones is built in the mold of Terrell Owens. Thomas is most like Brandon Marshall. Either way, Jones is the more talented and athletic receiver right now and regardless of the conservative offense that he plays in, he will have more opportunities for production than Thomas will in Denver unless Tebow significantly improves his game to the point that he doesn't have to rely on Thomas getting a few 50 yard catches per game. They both need to work on their concentration and eliminating drops though.
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I wouldn't say Thomas is like Brandon Marshall. Marshall is a 4.5 possession guy. DT ran a 4.3. Shows up when watching them as well.
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BeyBey kinda reminds me of the young, Green Bay version of Javon Walker (before his knees got completely shredded).
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I was mostly talking about builds because of descendancy saying Moss was bigger (heavier) than both Thomas and Jones. Just like my AJ Green comparison doesn't really perfectly fit Moss' athleticism because of the significant differences in speed when Moss was young, its more about builds and the players sizes relating to their athleticism that was being discussed.
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Julio is already better and has more upside than Thomas. And I really like Thomas.
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I love Thomas, but at this point he's got a lot of learning to do. He's got the athletic ability but he's so far behind on the route precision that will allow his athletic ability to shine. He's got the deep route covered, and everyone saw his speed on display in a big way on that 80 yard touchdown.

The difference to me is that Julio just has a gear that BeyBey doesn't have. Not only is he a better route runner, and more physical, he's faster too. He may not have shown it on a broken foot with a 4.39 @ the combine, but watching him pull away from defenders vs watching BeyBey slightly pull away. It's just totally different realm of elite speed.

Julio to me at this point has already surpassed where Thomas is, and he has a higher ceiling as well. I love the big play ability of both guys, and I think that Thomas can develop into a nice #2 WR in the NFL, I don't ever see him being that #1 type guy, which I think Julio has already started to become in Atlanta. He hasn't eliminated Roddy, but given a full offseason and him staying healthy, I think he'll end up being the better ATL WR.
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The correct answer is AJ Green, he'll be better then both in the long run.
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I will agree neither Jones or Thomas are in the class of athlete as Moss or Johnson Jr.

But both are EXTREMELY gifted...and i would say that with the offense that the broncos are running run, run, run hit it deep... if they continue that and tebow finally has an offseason to work on his technique thomas will continue to be a HUGE deep threat.

In college he averaged 25 yards a catch


Given that he is still coming back from injury and isnt a 100% but was still capable of doing what he has been able to i would say the sky is the limit
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I wouldn't say Thomas is like Brandon Marshall. Marshall is a 4.5 possession guy. DT ran a 4.3. Shows up when watching them as well.
Marshall isn't a "possession" guy, at least he wasn't in Denver. He's not the fastest guy, but that doesn't make him a possession receiver. He had tons of plays in Denver that were at least as impressive athletically as DT's last week.



Specifically at 0:25 is the play that most sticks in my mind. Then there was the GW TD against the Cowboys in his last year in Denver. The Denver version of Brandon Marshall was an ELITE receiver, as good as anyone now not named Calvin, Larry or Andre.
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