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01-13-2012, 10:05 AM
Join Date: Jan 2007
Originally Posted by SuperPacker
Blaine Gabbert had the size and athleticism. The matter of fact is hes unnacurate, has poor pocket presence, gets fazed by the pass rush etc. hes terrible and i dont see what makes you think hes going to be a good player, other than the fact that hes tall.
Except none of that is really true. Osweiler is hardly "phased by the pass rush" or had poor pocket presence. Not sure where you got that impression. Osweiler regularly stands tall in the pocket and steps into throws. So that knock is totally bogus. Is he the best in the world at that? Certainly not. But it's not a knock and bringing up Gabbert completely sets a very poor frame of reference.
Osweiler has some major work to do in terms of adjusting to an NFL offense, but none more than the guys RaidersNation has under him. Tons more talent than anyone in that group too.
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Last edited by ElectricEye : 01-13-2012 at 10:09 AM.
01-13-2012, 11:12 AM
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Wallaceburg, Ontario, Canada
[quote=RaiderNation;2822846]Here is my updated rankings and BB, it includes most of the declaring underclassmen. I will likely need to change up the rankings again next week on Monday when the deadline passes up, but here is mine right now. Questions and comments are welcomed...
1 Andrew Luck QB Stanford*
2 Robert Griffin III QB Baylor*
3 Tyler Wilson QB Arkansas*- Could be wrong but I doubt he declares because pro GM's may be wary of Petrino QB's and the Advisory Board might have given him a much lower rating.
4 Ryan Tannehill QB Texas A&M
5 Brock Osweiler QB Arizona State*
6 Nick Foles QB Arizona
7 Brandon Weeden QB Oklahoma State
8 Kellen Moore QB Boise State
9 Kirk Cousins QB Michigan State
10 Russell Wilson QB Wisconsin - This guy could make a huge splash at the combine and convince a # of teams that size isn't everything.
1 Trent Richardson RB Alabama*
2 Lamar Miller RB Miami**
3 LaMichael James RB Oregon*
4 Chris Polk RB Washington*
5 David Wilson RB Virginia Tech* - I'd put him at #2, just not sure how well he will run between the tackles although he looked solid in college. However his speed and quickness makes him at least #2 in my books. He'll be scary for NFL defenders.
6 Doug Martin RB Boise State -not a fan
7 Cyrus Gray RB Texas A&M -ditto
8 Ronnie Hillman RB San Diego State* - ditto
9 Isaiah Pead RB Cincinnati -#7 or #6 if Herron flops at combine.
10 Dan Herron RB Ohio State -#6 in my books if he shows well at the combine.
Where is Bernard Pierce who I would have right after Polk.
1 Cody Johnson FB Texas
2 Chad Diehl FB Clemson
3 Drake Dunsmore FB Northwestern
1 Justin Blackmon WR Oklahoma State*
2 Michael Floyd WR Notre Dame
3 Alshon Jeffery WR South Carolina* - I'd switch him and Randall in my rankings. Randall could really move up at the combine with a good QB throwing him the ball. Hate Jeffery who will sink fast after he has trouble running a 4.60 at the combine.
4 Kendall Wright WR Baylor - has a real shot at #3. A Wallace clone even if a bit shorter
5 Mohamed Sanu WR Rutgers* - Could make a real splash at the combine and will be drafted ahead of Jeffery IMO.
6 Dwight Jones WR UNC
7 Rueben Randall WR LSU*
8 Jeff Fuller WR Texas A&M
9 Ryan Broyles WR Oklahoma
10 Marvin McNutt WR Iowa
1 Dwayne Allen TE Clemson*
2 Coby Fleener TE Stanford
3 Michael Egnew TE Missouri
4 Orson Charles TE Georgia*-This guy will blow people away at the combine and I see him as #3 on this list.
5 David Paulson TE Oregon
1 Matt Kalil OT USC*
2 Jonathan Martin OT Stanford*
3 Riley Reiff OT Iowa*
4 Mike Adams OT Ohio State
5 Zebrie Sanders Florida State
6 Kelechi Osemele OT Iowa State -I see him more at OG
7 Levy Adcock OT Oklahoma State
8 Nate Potter OT Boise State’
9 Matt Reynolds OT BYU
10 Bobby Massie OT Ole Miss*
1 David DeCastro OG Stanford*
2 Kevin Zeitler OG Wisconsin
3 Cordy Glenn OG Georgia
4 Brandon Washington OG Miami*
5 Ryan Miller OG Colorado
1 Peter Konz C Wisconsin*
2 Michael Brewster C Ohio State-Needs the combine to establish his spot.
3 Ben Jones C Georgia
4 Phillip Blake C Baylor
5 William Vlachos C Alabama
4-3 DE/3-4 OLB
1 Quinton Coples DE UNC
2 Courtney Upshaw DE/OLB Alabama
3 Whitney Mercilus DE Illinois*
4 Nick Perry DE/OLB USC*
5 Vinny Curry DE/OLB Marshall
6 Melvin Ingram DE South Carolina -Guy played RB in high school and has a lot of upside but more as a DE IMO.
7 Bruce Irvin DE/OLB West Virginia
8 Ronnell Lewis DE/OLB Oklahoma**
9 Andre Branch DE/OLB Clemson -As a DE, he'll challenge for top spot. Impressive combination of speed and quickness makes him special.
10 Cam Johnson DE Virginia-Not sure how high this guy will go but he is a phenominal hard worker who simply wears down defenders with his hard work and never quits till the whistle blows. He has better speed than people give him credit for.
4-3 DT/3-4 DE
1 Michael Brockers DT LSU**-I love this guy, top 5 or top 10 is very possible.
2 Fletcher Cox DT Mississippi State*
3 Devin Still DT Penn State
4 Jerel Worthy DT Michigan State*
5 Brandon Thompson DT Clemson -Strictly a run defender so maybe NT is his position.
6 Derek Wolfe DT Cincinnati
7 Jared Crick DT Nebraska-will be drafted ahead of Thompson and Wolfe IMO, if his health is deemed OK.
8 Kendall Reyes DT UCONN
9 Billy Winn DT Boise State-I have Winn as a DE and above Reyes as a prospect.
10 DaJohn Harris DT USC
1 Dontari Poe NT Memphis*
2 Alameda Ta’amu NT Washington
3 Josh Chapman NT Alabama
4 Mike Martin NT Michigan
5 Delvin Johnson NT Marshall
1 Zach Brown OLB UNC
2 Lavonte David OLB Nebraska
3 Travis Lewis OLB Oklahoma
4 Keenan Robinson OLB Texas
5 Terrell Manning OLB North Carolina State*
1 Luke Kuechly ILB Boston College*
2 Vontaze Burfict ILB Arizona State*
3 Audie Cole ILB North Carolina State
4 Dont’a Hightower ILB Alabama*-Could move up with a great combine.
5 Mychal Kendricks ILB Cal
1 Morris Claiborne CB LSU*
2 Dre Kirkpatrick CB Alabama*
3 Janoris Jenkins CB Northern Alabama
4 Alfonzo Dennard CB Nebraska
5 Chase Minnifield CB Virginia
6 Stephon Gilmore CB South Carolina*
7 Casey Heyward CB Vanderbilt -Not a Heyward lover.
8 Jayron Hosley CB Virginia Tech*
9 Brandon Boykin CB Georgia
10 Cliff Harris CB Oregon*
1 Mark Barron DB Alabama
2 Markelle Martin DB Oklahoma State -Will get a shot at CB first IMO but Safety isn't out of the question.
3 Winston Guy DB Kentucky
4 Trumaine Johnson DB Montana -Mark me down as a lover, better prospect than Martin IMO and will definitely get a real shot to make it at CB. Great combination of size, speed and athleticism and completely dominated at the small school level. Needs a good combine to show he can handle elite WR talent.
5 Brandon Taylor DB LSU
Really solid effort and a workable list going into the combine.
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Last edited by Iamcanadian : 01-13-2012 at 11:37 AM.
01-13-2012, 06:07 PM
Join Date: Jan 2012
Very good list, I agree with 90% of it.
01-14-2012, 10:55 AM
Join Date: Aug 2008
Originally Posted by TACKLE
I'm not singleling you out but I just can't see what people see in Jonathan Martin that makes them think he's a better player and prospect that Mike Adams.
This. I was going to say; both Reiff and Adams should be ahead of Martin
Might I also add that both Nick Toon and Devier Posey should be on your WR list and probably higher than some of those guys.
Finally, I would consider Poe a 4-3 DT/3-4 DE
Overall pretty good list though
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Last edited by Sloopy : 01-14-2012 at 10:58 AM.
01-14-2012, 01:11 PM
Join Date: Apr 2008
I would say easily the hardest position to get a hold of this season is the defensive tackle spot. No real standout during the season and that is why Brockers has jumped up so quickly when he said he was coming out.
Sad thing is, no one talked about him being a high pick until he declared just recently. Interesting but shows what people think of the defensive tackle class.
Weird thing is Crick could be a great pro, and could easily be the #1 DT taken, but with his injury history that will not happen. And guys like Worthy shows great ability but it is just not consistent. Brandon Thompson and Still are two very good players as well, and really in terms of depth it is a deep class of solid defensive tackles, just not many supposed stars that really standout.
I do feel Crick, Worthy and Harris are being a little underrated by some however.
And personally give me Melvin Ingram over Whitney Mercilus any day as a 4/3 DE.
And for full back, give me these guys over the ones you listed. I like all of these prospects, event hough Hewitt and Ellison may or may not come out. Figgins is real sound and so is Ramsey potentially.
Ryan Hewitt Stanford JR
Rhett Ellison USC RS JR
Devon Ramsey UNC
Joe Suhey Penn State
Bruce Figgins Georgia
Tyler Legate Nebraska
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