Mario Williams - Page 5

fear the elf · 01-23-2012, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by A Perfect Score

Yeah but then they have to play in Jacksonville...Nobody wants to go there.

Off topic poll - Less attractive place to play: Jacksonville, Buffalo or Cleveland?

ImBrotherCain · 01-23-2012, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by fear the elf

Off topic poll - Less attractive place to play: Jacksonville, Buffalo or Cleveland?

Cleveland is the butt hole of the US... I've been there once and would honestly think twice about going back.

fear the elf · 01-23-2012, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ImBrotherCain

Cleveland is the butt hole of the US... I've been there once and would honestly think twice about going back.

Well you're from Pittsburgh so I'll be taking your opinion with a grain of salt :)

On topic, I'd be extremely surprised if the Texans let Mario go, whether he be traded or let go. Generally, teams don't let guys with talent like that go (unless they have some baggage). No matter how bad of a cap situation they are in or the scheme fit. Besides, good players will produce in any scheme, as he showed us before his injury.

Hopefully I'm wrong though, because I'd be really interesting to watch what happens.

ImBrotherCain · 01-23-2012, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by fear the elf

Well you're from Pittsburgh so I'll be taking your opinion with a grain of salt :)

On topic, I'd be extremely surprised if the Texans let Mario go, whether he be traded or let go. Generally, teams don't let guys with talent like that go (unless they have some baggage). No matter how bad of a cap situation they are in or the scheme fit. Besides, good players will produce in any scheme, as he showed us before his injury.

Hopefully I'm wrong though, because I'd be really interesting to watch what happens.

I was born and raised in Rochester, NY about 1.5 hours away from Buffalo. I have only lived in Pittsburgh for about 3 years now and I hate the Steelers. So no bias lol.

GatorsBullsFan · 01-23-2012, 02:01 PM

Saying Jacksonville is one of the worst places to play is ********...We have one of the best growing fan bases

MetSox17 · 01-23-2012, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorsBullsFan

Saying Jacksonville is one of the worst places to play is ********...We have one of the best growing fan bases

This is cute. How old are you?

GatorsBullsFan · 01-23-2012, 02:26 PM

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This is cute. How old are you?

Dude we have a new owner and a new Head Coach. Unlike other teams we haven't had a Black out since 2009...We just had 7000 fans show up to a Prep Rally at Everbank Stadium for a team that went 5-11..we have one of the top 5 defenses in the league stats wise. Plus our new owner has said that money is not a issue this offseason and we have 35 million open on the cap....WHAT IS THERE NOT TO LIKE?

Maybe if you stop listening to main stream media and idiots like Jon Gruden and Keyshawn Johnson, you would know something.

FlyingElvis · 01-23-2012, 03:05 PM

No team in Florida is a bad place to play from a players' perspective. Regardless of the situation, there's still no income tax. That's enough to make any FL franchise attractive.

Then there's the whole weather, beaches, clubs and nearly year-round scantily clad ladies . . .

A Perfect Score · 01-23-2012, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorsBullsFan

Dude we have a new owner and a new Head Coach. Unlike other teams we haven't had a Black out since 2009...We just had 7000 fans show up to a Prep Rally at Everbank Stadium for a team that went 5-11..we have one of the top 5 defenses in the league stats wise. Plus our new owner has said that money is not a issue this offseason and we have 35 million open on the cap....WHAT IS THERE NOT TO LIKE?

Maybe if you stop listening to main stream media and idiots like Jon Gruden and Keyshawn Johnson, you would know something.

Mike Mularkey, Blaine Gabbert, Bob Bratkowski, Greg Olson, no WRs, small market, overrated statistical defense, etc. etc...It's a pretty big list of things not to like.

sweetness34 · 01-23-2012, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorsBullsFan

Dude we have a new owner and a new Head Coach. Unlike other teams we haven't had a Black out since 2009...We just had 7000 fans show up to a Prep Rally at Everbank Stadium for a team that went 5-11..we have one of the top 5 defenses in the league stats wise. Plus our new owner has said that money is not a issue this offseason and we have 35 million open on the cap....WHAT IS THERE NOT TO LIKE?

Maybe if you stop listening to main stream media and idiots like Jon Gruden and Keyshawn Johnson, you would know something.

Your new owner also crapped on anyone who didn't have season tickets by questioning their fandom.

"I think I can clarify at this point for me a fan is somebody who is a season ticket holder fan for the Jaguars. We want to hear from people, we want a huge amount of constructive feedback. We need input, but we need that from fans who are season ticket holders."

- Jaguars Owner, Shahid Khan

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ycn-10828867

Yep, awesome place to play. Who cares if you don't have thousands of dollars to spend on season tickets. We don't want your feedback!

MetSox17 · 01-23-2012, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorsBullsFan

Dude we have a new owner and a new Head Coach. Unlike other teams we haven't had a Black out since 2009...We just had 7000 fans show up to a Prep Rally at Everbank Stadium for a team that went 5-11..we have one of the top 5 defenses in the league stats wise. Plus our new owner has said that money is not a issue this offseason and we have 35 million open on the cap....WHAT IS THERE NOT TO LIKE?

Maybe if you stop listening to main stream media and idiots like Jon Gruden and Keyshawn Johnson, you would know something.

The fact that your team sucks enormous amounts of dick? Outside of MJD, there's no redeeming qualities to that team. APS already listed them out. Gabbert is trash and will continue to be trash throwing to trash receivers.

GatorsBullsFan · 01-23-2012, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by A Perfect Score

Mike Mularkey, Blaine Gabbert, Bob Bratkowski, Greg Olson, no WRs, small market, overrated statistical defense, etc. etc...It's a pretty big list of things not to like.

Bratkowski has worked with a lot of good QBs like Matt Ryan, Carson Palmer, and Warren Moon. Mularky actually had the Bills looking very good his first season in Buffalo when he didn't have much to work with. The only thing on that list that Im actually not 100 % confident about is Greg Olson. We had 25 players on IR this season and a lot of our defense wasn't there going into the late part of the season...We had no Derrick Cox or Rashean Mathis. We had 4th, 5th, and 6th string CBs...and saying Gabbert is a problem coming from a Ravens fan that have never really had a QB. Gabbert has more talent in his Non throwing hand than Flacco has in his whole body

GatorsBullsFan · 01-23-2012, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MetSox17

The fact that your team sucks enormous amounts of dick? Outside of MJD, there's no redeeming qualities to that team. APS already listed them out. Gabbert is trash and will continue to be trash throwing to trash receivers.

This is the greatest quote because its the true quote of someone who has no idea what he is talking about. Just because we don't show up in main stream media people automatically assume that our team sucks. We went 8-8 last year and 7-9 the year before Its just a transition year.

OzTitan · 01-23-2012, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by fear the elf

On topic, I'd be extremely surprised if the Texans let Mario go, whether he be traded or let go. Generally, teams don't let guys with talent like that go (unless they have some baggage).

I agree but occasionally we do see an exception, like Drew Brees. He wasn't a sure fire HOFer when he was let go like he is now and he did have that shoulder concern, but I think Mario is somewhat similar - perhaps too expensive to tag, not exactly sorely needed by his team, some potential injury concerns etc. If there was going to be another exception I think Mario's situation makes him a safe bet at being it, although I can still see the Texans working out a way to keep him.

DraftSavant · 01-23-2012, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorsBullsFan

Bratkowski has worked with a lot of good QBs like Matt Ryan, Carson Palmer, and Warren Moon. Mularky actually had the Bills looking very good his first season in Buffalo when he didn't have much to work with. The only thing on that list that Im actually not 100 % confident about is Greg Olson. We had 25 players on IR this season and a lot of our defense wasn't there going into the late part of the season...We had no Derrick Cox or Rashean Mathis. We had 4th, 5th, and 6th string CBs...and saying Gabbert is a problem coming from a Ravens fan that have never really had a QB. Gabbert has more talent in his Non throwing hand than Flacco has in his whole body

You actually believed what you're writing, don't you? That's cute. I remember when I used to think my team and players were way more talented than they were, that nobody would ever regress or get hurt, that every player's developmental path would be absolutely perfect with no hiccups, and that my team's GM was the smartest kid in the room.

Really, though, as far as Jax/Cle/Buf...Jax wins that in a landslide. Jacksonville's a warm weather city, on the beach, in a state with no income tax.

Jacksonville isn't tits, but come on guys...CLEVELAND AND BUFFALO?

fear the elf · 01-23-2012, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by OzTitan

I agree but occasionally we do see an exception, like Drew Brees. He wasn't a sure fire HOFer when he was let go like he is now and he did have that shoulder concern, but I think Mario is somewhat similar - perhaps too expensive to tag, not exactly sorely needed by his team, some potential injury concerns etc. If there was going to be another exception I think Mario's situation makes him a safe bet at being it, although I can still see the Texans working out a way to keep him.

Yeah, I 100% agree with that. There are always exceptions, and I think the situations as you describe them are analogous. Like I said, I hope it does happen, because it would be really interesting to see what happens.

Obligatory, I want him on my team declaration: how sweet would Sheard, Taylor, Rubin, Super Mario be!?

fear the elf · 01-23-2012, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DraftSavant

Really, though, as far as Jax/Cle/Buf...Jax wins that in a landslide. Jacksonville's a warm weather city, on the beach, in a state with no income tax.

Jacksonville isn't tits, but come on guys...CLEVELAND AND BUFFALO?

But...but...what about our rich history!? Doesn't that count for anything...? :(

A Perfect Score · 01-23-2012, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorsBullsFan

Bratkowski has worked with a lot of good QBs like Matt Ryan, Carson Palmer, and Warren Moon. Mularky actually had the Bills looking very good his first season in Buffalo when he didn't have much to work with. The only thing on that list that Im actually not 100 % confident about is Greg Olson. We had 25 players on IR this season and a lot of our defense wasn't there going into the late part of the season...We had no Derrick Cox or Rashean Mathis. We had 4th, 5th, and 6th string CBs...and saying Gabbert is a problem coming from a Ravens fan that have never really had a QB. Gabbert has more talent in his Non throwing hand than Flacco has in his whole body

OH COME ON? I can't be the only one who caught this...This is sig quote worthy material here gentlemen.

DraftSavant · 01-23-2012, 03:53 PM

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OH COME ON? I can't be the only one who caught this...This is sig quote worthy material here gentlemen.

I was going to bold it and say something in specific to that quote. But I re-read the rest of the post, and it's just ridiculous in it's entirety.

"Never say never", but I highly doubt they win anything of substance with Gene Smith running the team. And throughout the ownership change process, it's pretty apparent who is in total and complete control of football operations. He'd be a nice pro personnel guy, but he's completely in over his head in regards to the draft and has "smartest kid in the class" syndrome to boot.

GatorsBullsFan · 01-23-2012, 04:05 PM

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OH COME ON? I can't be the only one who caught this...This is sig quote worthy material here gentlemen.

Am I the only person that watches Flacco play? The only consistency he has is consistently screwing up...Just on potential alone I give Gabbert a better rating than Flacco. The Ravens have tried to give this kid the control many times and he has proven everytime to fail over and over...Give Gabbert the same amount of time that Flacco has had and I promise you he will be a better QB. I will wait until this offseason is over, Because remember all of the new players we had this offseason and not even having a full TC...All of you will be eating your words next year

A Perfect Score · 01-23-2012, 04:08 PM

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Am I the only person that watches Flacco play? The only consistency he has is consistently screwing up...Just on potential alone I give Gabbert a better rating than Flacco. The Ravens have tried to give this kid the control many times and he has proven everytime to fail over and over...Give Gabbert the same amount of time that Flacco has had and I promise you he will be a better QB. I will wait until this offseason is over, Because remember all of the new players we had this offseason and not even having a full TC...All of you will be eating your words next year

I'm pretty sure the only thing Gabbert has on Flacco in any way, potential or otherwise, is mobility. And I'm pretty sure that's because Gunshy Gabbert is the biggest ***** in the NFL and he's continually running from the nonexistent pass rush. I would bet literally every cent I have on the fact that Blaine Gabbert will forever be an inferior NFL QB to Joe Flacco. Every ******* cent.

GatorsBullsFan · 01-23-2012, 04:18 PM

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I'm pretty sure the only thing Gabbert has on Flacco in any way, potential or otherwise, is mobility. And I'm pretty sure that's because Gunshy Gabbert is the biggest ***** in the NFL and he's continually running from the nonexistent pass rush. I would bet literally every cent I have on the fact that Blaine Gabbert will forever be an inferior NFL QB to Joe Flacco. Every ******* cent.

How much Jags games have you watched this year?..Im assuming just the Jags-Ravens game? if so you really have a lot to go on don't you? Or once again are you just going by what main stream media is saying?

DraftSavant · 01-23-2012, 04:28 PM

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How much Jags games have you watched this year?..Im assuming just the Jags-Ravens game? if so you really have a lot to go on don't you? Or once again are you just going by what main stream media is saying?

I watched every game. Chase Daniels will have a longer NFL career than Gabbert when it's all said and done.

Look, I know Jag fans think everyone gangs up and picks on them to be mean. Gabbert is bad. Really, really bad. The sooner the fans and FO accept this, the less damage there will be.

GatorsBullsFan · 01-23-2012, 04:46 PM

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I watched every game. Chase Daniels will have a longer NFL career than Gabbert when it's all said and done.

Look, I know Jag fans think everyone gangs up and picks on them to be mean. Gabbert is bad. Really, really bad. The sooner the fans and FO accept this, the less damage there will be.

Dude Gabbert didn't have any WRs this year, he had no Training Camp. Marcedes Lewis had a off year...How are you going to sit there and say that considering the circumstances? Wait until next year when he has the WRs, Because I guarantee you that our offense around Gabbert next year will look like a whole new offense. If you watched every Jags game this year you would know this. Our WRs were so horrible this year they could even get seperation. Even Dunta Robinson said this was the worst bunch of WRs he had ever faced.

Every Rookie QB that came in this year had a security blanket at WR Cam Newton had Steve Smith, Andy Dalton had AJ Green, Christian Ponder had Percy Harvin. Who did Gabbert have? Mike Thomas? Mike Thomas would be 3rd or 4th string on a lot of teams in the NFL

J-Mike88 · 01-23-2012, 04:50 PM

Wow I thought I clicked into the Mario Williams thread.

Where will Mario go?
What's his best position?
Can he not be a Justin Smith type beast of a DE in a 34 scheme?

Send the brother north to the tundra. We need help everywhere on defense.
What $ will it take?