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Old 02-15-2012, 12:37 PM    (permalink
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Lloyd does two things well:

1.) Run comeback routes
2.) Average about one crazy catch per game

Not worth a $10 million franchise tag. That money would be better spend going after Bowe or Jackson.
Was much better than that two years ago.
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I've been really impressed with Lloyd's play the last 2 years.

With that said, I can't imagine anyone in a suit at the NFL level advocating keeping Lloyd via the franchise tag.
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Was much better than that two years ago.
You mean in the offense where Kyle Orton was a 4000 yard passer on a team that won like 4 games?

He'll follow McD to New England on a mid level deal and that is how the Patriots will "solve" their deep threat issue, much to the delight of every other team in the AFC.
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You mean in the offense where Kyle Orton was a 4000 yard passer on a team that won like 4 games?

He'll follow McD to New England on a mid level deal and that is how the Patriots will "solve" their deep threat issue, much to the delight of every other team in the AFC.
He did say Fisher was the one coach he'd be like to play for that could get the Rams job. He'll test the open market. Watching the games, Lloyd has been legit, even in limited time for the Rams.
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He did say Fisher was the one coach he'd be like to play for that could get the Rams job. He'll test the open market. Watching the games, Lloyd has been legit, even in limited time for the Rams.
I still wouldn't franchise tag him or pay him more than a mid-level contract.
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I still wouldn't franchise tag him or pay him more than a mid-level contract.
Oh I'm not disagreeing with that, but he has a better skillset than listed.
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Avril maybe. If their GM (broth) doesn't send anything in, I might just let him hit the market. Justify it in that they have so much money invested elsewhere on the DL.

I don't think the Rams will franchise Lloyd. Too close to the cap and too much money for such a "meh" receiver.

Now if the 49ers didn't send anything, I'd probably franchise one of Goldson or Rogers.
Lions really close to cap arent they? Plus they have so mush in dine I don't see them putting the tag on him. But that's just me.
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Wow I hope the F/A market ends up looking like this, a lot of vey solid players out there.
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From my calculations the Packers have 19 million in cap space left. Is this correct because i'll be off when free agency begins so i need to know before you tell everyone their cap situation.
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From my calculations the Packers have 19 million in cap space left. Is this correct because i'll be off when free agency begins so i need to know before you tell everyone their cap situation.
Yeah, you're right about there. If I do it like I did the first one in the Media Threat, you'll be in the "has some money to spend but needs to be a little careful" category. Towards the higher end of it at least.
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OT Jammal Brown - Redskins - Brown was a surprise cut to many as the Redskins moved further underneath the salary cap. He has proven to be ridden with constant injuries and wildly inconsistent playing both tackle positions.

S OJ Atogwe - Redskins - The Redskins signed Atogwe just last offseason but that did not make him immune from being cut. He started 8 games for the Redskins last season and would make for a decent starter on a team in need of an aging safety coming off hamstring, knee, and toe injuries who lacks speed and explosion.
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Yeah, you're right about there. If I do it like I did the first one in the Media Threat, you'll be in the "has some money to spend but needs to be a little careful" category. Towards the higher end of it at least.
Ok cool, another question, (lol you must hate me), if i were to trade Woodson would i save only his base salary or his total cap hit including his 4 million roster bonus?
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Ok cool, another question, (lol you must hate me), if i were to trade Woodson would i save only his base salary or his total cap hit including his 4 million roster bonus?
Well, if the bonus hasn't been paid yet, trading him would mean you wouldn't have to pay it, so I would presume you'd save the full amount.
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Well, if the bonus hasn't been paid yet, trading him would mean you wouldn't have to pay it, so I would presume you'd save the full amount.
I'll settle for a low first rounder for him then.
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Well, if the bonus hasn't been paid yet, trading him would mean you wouldn't have to pay it, so I would presume you'd save the full amount.
it actually depends on the details of the contract which we dont know. a lot of the time the trading team is responsible for the bonus. in peytons case for instance, the colts are still going to get hit with $16m in bonus even after cutting him.
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it actually depends on the details of the contract which we dont know. a lot of the time the trading team is responsible for the bonus. in peytons case for instance, the colts are still going to get hit with $16m in bonus even after cutting him.
we could just assume half way then? i save 8 million?
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actually...

I could save 5 million from Driver

5.5 million from Clifton

5 million form Hawk


15.5 million + 6 million + 5 million = 27 million!

Yeah check that out bitches!

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this is horse ****. I wanted Dallas Clark dammit
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this is horse ****. I wanted Dallas Clark dammit
He's not dickishly slow enough to be a Giants TE.
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